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AceOfFlames posted:Anyone who wants to have kids in this world should really reexamine their beliefs. If all the sexual predators, bigotry, declining employment and climate change don't scare, please tell me your secret. I cannot imagine why anyone would willingly take that responsibility. We are having a unique experience for the first time in humanity, we can actually mostly objectively, know how things really are, like the enlightenment helped with science we are gaining a chance to not just right wrongs, as we literally gain the ability to numerate them in all their horror, but do more and better than we ever have before. We can make a Just World, if we choose.
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AceOfFlames posted:Anyone who wants to have kids in this world should really reexamine their beliefs. If all the sexual predators, bigotry, declining employment and climate change don't scare, please tell me your secret. I cannot imagine why anyone would willingly take that responsibility. It scares the gently caress out of me, doesn't make me not want kids though.
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Terebus posted:Politically, the good thing about the Roy Moore situation is that no matter how the election turns out republicans are hosed. Also if Moore wins and the Republicans seat him (I honestly think they might refuse and see that as less damaging nationally, any bill that the GOP passes then becomes "Congress person X agrees with known child rapist and pedophile Roy Moore." Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/LanaDelRaytheon/status/929444319236202497 I'm not saying that someone should set this rear end in a top hat on fire, but if they did I wouldn't be in a hurry to put out the flames. Shimrra Jamaane posted:The existence of Slavic Nazis is one of the world most baffling ironies. I get it, you really hate Muslims. But maybe identify with one of the countless groups over the past hundreds of years that hates them that doesn't also lust for the death of you too. If this shocks you wait until you hear about this country called "Israel" and their views on the people whose land they keep stealing.
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AceOfFlames posted:Anyone who wants to have kids in this world should really reexamine their beliefs. If all the sexual predators, bigotry, declining employment and climate change don't scare, please tell me your secret. I cannot imagine why anyone would willingly take that responsibility. Because we live in the most peaceful and prosperous time in human history?
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Your Taint posted:That wacky Putin is up to it again. I’m hoping Fox picks this up as another example of Hillary kill list so their viewers finally find out who Popadopalis is and what he’s accused of.
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AceOfFlames posted:Anyone who wants to have kids in this world should really reexamine their beliefs. If all the sexual predators, bigotry, declining employment and climate change don't scare, please tell me your secret. I cannot imagine why anyone would willingly take that responsibility. It's always been there and has arguably been worse, just not as open. Even climate change is more macro whereas the environment at a micro level was worse 30 years ago.
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the black husserl posted:Can someone who knows anything about the law explain what the results of this are going to be? It’s federal court, so only federal crimes, no rape, but probably a lot of lovely decisions involving drugs and immigration. Also everyone that has to practice before him will recognize that he’s a bad judge and that’ll effect decisions. Due to the cost and time of appealing in federal courts, a lot won’t get overturned but just accepted. However, other decent judges will recognize his opinions are often trash. There are a lot of bad federal judges out there already. It’s when they get key appellate or Supreme Court spots that it really matters
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I dont want kids cause I'd be a terrible parent. I wouldnt want to be raised by me. Rule of thumb I saw for dating younger than you is half your age +10 once you are in your late 20s. 28 with someone who is 24 80 with 50
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dbukalski posted:do gotv door to door canvasers have tablets where they can help people register for early mail in voting right there on the spot? Some do. In previous years, we walked with paper registration forms in our packets, just in case. You get a receipt, I stop by a DMV to register you. We didn’t have tablets worth a drat on the VA campaign. We had HTC Maven 2’s. They were delightfully useless except for phones and canvassing.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:You'd think if there was anyone who didn't want Nazis in Poland it would be Russia. Russia just can't stop playing that Slavic State bullshit.
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Crabtree posted:Bullshit they did, Catholics were just tolerated because soon Muslims became the scary religion we could declare war on as soon as the Iranian revolution and Muslim Brotherhood. Anytime the pope does something to anger conservatives they start remembering all the Touchy Priests and boil up the old Grudge. Racism and bigotry don't dissipate with Jews, it hasn't disappeared from Catholics because some were white. If Catholics start to be more liberal than their otherwise no abortion unity is, its back on because "Mexico is predominantly Catholic". The pope being international super king was 100% a thing for huge parts of european history. The pope is a cute silly old man now but until the mid 1800s he was a ruler of a country with a lot of resources and political power that raised a bunch of armies and overthrew governments and stuff. It took a long time for people to realize "oh, the pope isn't really a thing anymore' after he lost rome.
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Xombie posted:The majority of practicing christians in the US live in rural areas. Evangicals are the largest denomination in the US. Suburban white protestant churches, as was shown in 2016, are not politically different from them on the whole. quote:You definitely misread what I said there. The counterparts of non-southern black churches are southern black churches. The counterparts of hispanic catholics are other hispanic catholics, etc. Xombie posted:Christians across the country, especially in rural areas, have been ideologically in step with southerners since Jim Crow. Urban Christianity barely even exists except among minorities, who are also ideologically in step with their southern counterparts. quote:In social values, they really are in lock step.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:You'd think if there was anyone who didn't want Nazis in Poland it would be Russia. Some of the people in the countries the Soviets took either before or after 1945 have a big hatred for the Soviets/Russians/communists even today, and in some cases by extension a weird fondness for Nazis as the anti-Soviets.
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theflyingorc posted:Nah. He knows it's criminal, he doesn't think it's wrong. That's why he wouldn't deny it to the Senator he was talking to earlier today. He doesn't agree that it should be illegal. Reminder that Moore wrote an anti-statutory rape dissent while on the AL Supreme Court.
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Xae posted:Because we live in the most peaceful and prosperous time in human history? if we don't do something about climate change the grandkids will be living near the end of history.
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Groovelord Neato posted:if we don't do something about climate change the grandkids will be living near the end of history. Hopefully the gently caress off meteor hits first.
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Wark Say posted:I often have to come to work weekends in order to make sure servers stay up and all that nonsense. I decided to read through the thread, and here's a personal(-ish) story that kinda threw me off guard. Earlier today, my daughter Skype'd me and told me that she and her girlfriend watched Casino last night. After the movie was over, her girlfriend said something to the effect : "I sincerely wish that I could go loving Frankie Marino on the piece of poo poo coach who raped my older brother back when he was in high school". My daughter said that it was really off-putting just how to-the-point and very matter-of-fact her girlfriend said those words. And it made me wonder: If more cases of people (read: more than likely guys) being scumbags get out there, just how long is it going to be until we see / read news of some rear end in a top hat rapist getting a violent payback? It will probably happen, but it likely won't be that frequent. The victims already know what happened, and it's not like the laws about violent retribution are going to change. If they were going to do it, they already would have. Friends and family members are expressing the helplessness they feel with the situation, but once again the laws aren't going to change so those that would seek retribution already could. A lot of the time when people talk like that, it's as much about validation and healing rather the actually killing someone. The big change here isn't close family members and the victims knowing, it's the general public. How that changes concerns me. This stuff happens a lot, especially the further back you go. It's taken decades of patient work by feminists to change the viewpoint that these things are not ok. Not laws, but bringing the general public around with education on consent and related issues. I'm worried that everybody will see that it's so common that it's clearly not worth worrying about. On the other hand it is a point and time to continue the lesson. We aren't going to arrest everybody or fix the past, but we can choose our future.
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Groovelord Neato posted:if we don't do something about climate change the grandkids will be living near the end of history. "Meh, gently caress 'em if it means I get to eat cheap drive-thru cheeseburgers *now*. If they want to do that too, they can fix it." Mustached Demon posted:Hopefully the gently caress off meteor hits first. Giant Meteor not winning the 2016 election was the true heartbreak.
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CommieGIR posted:https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/co-author-of-mike-huckabee-books-was-accused-of-child-molest?utm_term=.cbMOvOa9De#.vrNNxNYmOe It's chomos all the way down isn't it.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:The pope being international super king was 100% a thing for huge parts of european history. The pope is a cute silly old man now but until the mid 1800s he was a ruler of a country with a lot of resources and political power that raised a bunch of armies and overthrew governments and stuff. It took a long time for people to realize "oh, the pope isn't really a thing anymore' after he lost rome. Interesting history derail here (because nothing is going to happen until Monday morning anyway). The Pope's secular power comes from a forged document. The legend was that, on a military excursion in Persia, the Emperor Constantine developed leprosy. Luckily for him, Pope Sylvester happened to be nearby and baptised him, instantly curing him. Constantine was so grateful that he said that the Pope could rule all of the Empire, all of the churches anywhere in the world and specifically have ownership of the city of Rome plus a bunch of islands and city-states around the Med. The Pope, being a modest kind of chap said that Constantine could carry on being Emperor, but Rome would be handy as well as that bit about rulership over all of the churches in the world. The document was probably written in the 8th century (about 400 years after Constantine died) and at the time, the Church of Rome was only one of several churches trying to claim primacy. The Church of Jerusalem had a much stronger claim to be the mother church, as did the Church of Ephesus. Even the Celtic Church had a lot more secular power. In a stroke of luck, the Church of Rome suddenly remembered this old letter from their good friend Constantine saying that actually they were the best and the rest were all #fakenews #sosad. By the 13th century, the Donation of Constantine was very definitively proven to be a forgery but, by that time it was too late and the Church of Rome had an iron grip over almost all of Europe. The Holy Roman Emperor ruled the lands given to the Church in the name of the Pope and at his sufferance.
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AceOfFlames posted:Anyone who wants to have kids in this world should really reexamine their beliefs. If all the sexual predators, bigotry, declining employment and climate change don't scare, please tell me your secret. I cannot imagine why anyone would willingly take that responsibility. it comes from a place of love. you and your spouse love each other and biologically that means babies. usually the woman is the driver there. generally men are less driven to have babies but do it to make their wife happy. being too deep in internet doom and gloom supresses baby urges Ive also noticed in the people around me. that people enjoy their free lifestyle too much to be burdened by babies. when they do have a baby its more likely to be one baby to check that box off the list
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Helen Highwater posted:Interesting history derail here (because nothing is going to happen until Monday morning anyway). The Pope's secular power comes from a forged document. The legend was that, on a military excursion in Persia, the Emperor Constantine developed leprosy. Luckily for him, Pope Sylvester happened to be nearby and baptised him, instantly curing him. Constantine was so grateful that he said that the Pope could rule all of the Empire, all of the churches anywhere in the world and specifically have ownership of the city of Rome plus a bunch of islands and city-states around the Med. The Pope, being a modest kind of chap said that Constantine could carry on being Emperor, but Rome would be handy as well as that bit about rulership over all of the churches in the world. The document was probably written in the 8th century (about 400 years after Constantine died) and at the time, the Church of Rome was only one of several churches trying to claim primacy. The Church of Jerusalem had a much stronger claim to be the mother church, as did the Church of Ephesus. Even the Celtic Church had a lot more secular power. In a stroke of luck, the Church of Rome suddenly remembered this old letter from their good friend Constantine saying that actually they were the best and the rest were all #fakenews #sosad. By the 13th century, the Donation of Constantine was very definitively proven to be a forgery but, by that time it was too late and the Church of Rome had an iron grip over almost all of Europe. The Holy Roman Emperor ruled the lands given to the Church in the name of the Pope and at his sufferance. Is there like a podcast or audiobook that goes into this kinda stuff? Sounds interesting.
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ZenVulgarity posted:https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/929451829657853952 jfc i cant be in denial anymore. we're going to see a 3rd world war in our lifetimes.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the migrant crisis and the rise of terrorism are america's fault. you wouldn't have those warsaw marches without us destabilizing the middle east. Then we run the world and everyone is American, ipso facto everyone is poo poo.
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La Brea Carpet posted:It's chomos all the way down isn't it. Somebod should investigate ChoMoore's Foundation of Moral Law. Dude's probably running a child sex ring with Alabama Taliban money.
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:jfc i cant be in denial anymore. we're going to see a 3rd world war in our lifetimes. Wait until Putin dies, you’re gonna see some real poo poo.
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La Brea Carpet posted:It's chomos all the way down isn't it. wouldnt surprise me. most of the evangelical types are all weird sex perverts. i am honestly curious what huckabee has buried(other then his large adult sons murder of a dog)
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Office Pig posted:Wait until Putin dies, you’re gonna see some real poo poo. isnt he basicaly holding all the psychos and uber nationalists in check, and he basically has no real "heir".
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CommieGIR posted:https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/co-author-of-mike-huckabee-books-was-accused-of-child-molest?utm_term=.cbMOvOa9De#.vrNNxNYmOe Everyone was discovered to be a pedophile in the UK starting a few years ago, it only makes sense it would happen in the US too.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:isnt he basicaly holding all the psychos and uber nationalists in check, and he basically has no real "heir". Yup. And even if he doesn't run again he will rule the country. When he dies it'll be a massive clusterfuck. If we're lucky it'll be board rooms and polonium tea. If we're not it will be a civil war in a nuclear state.
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Young Freud posted:Somebod should investigate ChoMoore's Foundation of Moral Law. Dude's probably running a child sex ring with Alabama Taliban money. I'll see if Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey are busy.
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Crow Jane posted:I used to know a woman who'd had a daughter at twelve. I think I had barely stopped playing with dolls at that point. My best friend in middle school got pregnant when she was 11 and had her baby at age 12. Her stepfather or grandfather was apparently the father. Her family moved away but we're still Facebook friends. It seems like her kid turned out all right, but her mom raised her for the most part so she could go to school.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:The pope being international super king was 100% a thing for huge parts of european history. The pope is a cute silly old man now but until the mid 1800s he was a ruler of a country with a lot of resources and political power that raised a bunch of armies and overthrew governments and stuff. It took a long time for people to realize "oh, the pope isn't really a thing anymore' after he lost rome. Yeah he isn't as powerful as he was, but centuries worth of racism and blood over schisms doesn't just disappear and old enemies of the KKK aren't just forgotten. They may not be attacked as much, but I doubt the likes of that British fucker or Bannon wouldn't also jump at the chance to kill some Catholics because "they aren't REAL Christians you know".
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