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Varance posted:I have lost the ability to complain about my pulls. Pulled these in sequence, 1 2 3 4 5: The Elemental Bedile Army.
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Kheldarn posted:The Challenge Battle unlocks next week, where we fight Golbez and the Shadow Dragon. Hope everyone has paralysis and death immunity because I'll be amazed if Golbez doesn't use his hold gas attack and Shadow Dragon will surely have its insta-kill too. The lack of a 6* golbez in this event is such a wasted opportunity though. They'd even be able to add him to the banner to dilute the odds of getting Milon.
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Nov 11, 2017 04:32
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Evil Fluffy posted:Hope everyone has paralysis and death immunity because I'll be amazed if Golbez doesn't use his hold gas attack and Shadow Dragon will surely have its insta-kill too. Yeah, about that: Golbez Abilities
Shadow Dragon Abilities
He won't summon the Shadow Dragon until he falls under 50% HP. It will use the ST version of Black Fang, unless you kill Golbez first, and then it will use the AOE version. The only way to avoid Black Fang is to use Reraise, Magic Evasion, Hide, or Jump. Otherwise it's a guaranteed death.
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Nov 11, 2017 04:40
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they totally went "gently caress you Genji Shield"
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Nov 11, 2017 07:14
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So basically the whole fight is getting around the aoe black fang. Everything else seems relatively painless. Unless he can dualcast one of the set hp 10's with one of the -agas
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Nov 11, 2017 15:03
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McSpankWich posted:So basically the whole fight is getting around the aoe black fang. Everything else seems relatively painless. Unless he can dualcast one of the set hp 10's with one of the -agas Is there some reason why you can't kill them both at the same time? That seems like the strat if you can't take Golbez from 51% to 0 in a single round of attacks.
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Nov 11, 2017 15:34
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McSpankWich posted:So basically the whole fight is getting around the aoe black fang. Everything else seems relatively painless. Unless he can dualcast one of the set hp 10's with one of the -agas Can you iNick it to a dodge tank?
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It’s a magic attack. Phys dodge wouldn’t do anything (nor would iNic’s cover).
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PaybackJack posted:Is there some reason why you can't kill them both at the same time? That seems like the strat if you can't take Golbez from 51% to 0 in a single round of attacks. The esper kill seems to imply they want you to half-re-enact the ff4 scene and just have your summon blast golbez and the dragon together. Speaking of, its dunes week, level a garnet if you havent yet.
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Nov 11, 2017 19:36
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If anyone would prefer Ayaka over my 1052 Atk onion knight for the golbez fight let me know as i would be happy to switch her in if someone missed out on her. It's hard to overstate the effect she's had for me. Thanks to her I've managed to win some of those trials that I didn't last past round 2 beforehand. Also based on this threads advice I awakened aces abilities instead of Luneths, and that turned out really well for me especially for long maps like realm of the dragon king and the previous vortex stuff. His spirit hand is awesome when fully awakened, and tribeam is pretty boss too. So thanks everyone for the great advice it's really appreciated!
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Nov 11, 2017 21:06
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Golbez is the boss, but he doesnt get a 6* Lunarian hate indeed.
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Nov 12, 2017 03:39
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Wouldn't Manufactured Nethecite do tons of work against Golbez? How many actions does he get?
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Nov 12, 2017 04:51
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Mad Fnorder posted:Wouldn't Manufactured Nethecite do tons of work against Golbez? How many actions does he get? Assuming none of the AI changes: Phase 1: (Random order) Firaga or Thundaga | 3x Bios | Normal Attacks Phase 2: Drain > (Random order) Drain or Bio | Firaga or Thundaga | Bio or Drain Phase 3: Random Skill (once during the fight on transition to Phase 3) > Osmose > (Random order) Firaga or Thundaga | Osmose or Bio | Drain or Firaga or Osmose or Binding Cold (Paralyze) Firaga, Thundaga, Osmose, & Drain can be sealed. So you're removing one AOE from Phase 1, a Drain from Phase 2 (as he'll lead with it), and an Osmose from Phase 3 (or a random sealable spell the first time you transition into Phase 3 if he uses it).
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Mad Fnorder posted:Wouldn't Manufactured Nethecite do tons of work against Golbez? How many actions does he get? yep, and a reflect from carbuncle/Marie will neuter one of his spells as well.
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Nov 12, 2017 07:45
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Is it possible to beat Aigion elite with 3 OK, Ayaka, Wilhelm, and either Zyrus or enhanced Soleil? Assume close to BiS (so some TMRs) but not entirely. I want that loving arm.
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Nov 12, 2017 07:59
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beergod posted:Is it possible to beat Aigion elite with 3 OK, Ayaka, Wilhelm, and either Zyrus or enhanced Soleil? Assume close to BiS (so some TMRs) but not entirely. I want that loving arm. I don't see why it wouldn't be. Just equip them with fire weapons so they don't run into any elemental resistance and go to town.
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Nov 12, 2017 14:37
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So would x2 Pod 153 be just as useful as a Locke? I am considering going after Bahamut and Lock just doesn't really fit in my party at the moment as he is too drat squishy...
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hagie posted:So would x2 Pod 153 be just as useful as a Locke? For drop rate increases, each pod is worth two Lockes.
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Nov 12, 2017 19:24
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Spreadsheet updated: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzD9FLe60JW64CytiSiYqCZ2JjWScunjQpb2lmSw_Ok/htmlview Current Top 25: 
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Nov 12, 2017 19:26
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That chart really doesn't mean anything now because it will automatically devalue any non Global Exclusive character do to the changes in Altema rating scheme. Right now, T.Terra out damages every character when fully kitted out, and she's not hard or expensive to kit out full damage do to L&As. If you really have a poo poo ton of whale TMs she can actually get really tanky given her high SPR, innate resistances and dodge.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:That chart really doesn't mean anything now because it will automatically devalue any non Global Exclusive character do to the changes in Altema rating scheme. Right now, T.Terra out damages every character when fully kitted out, and she's not hard or expensive to kit out full damage do to L&As. If you really have a poo poo ton of whale TMs she can actually get really tanky given her high SPR, innate resistances and dodge. I compensated for that, actually. Max is an 85 for a 6*... with the exception of Ayaka and some of the upcoming storyline units. The chart is designed to convert the average score from each site to a 12.5 and balance from there. Ayaka's score on Altema is an outlier, and her score more or less reflects that. Same for the ExviusWiki rates... max is considered a 15. The reason why Barb is higher is that she's better in niche situations. If she can elemental chain, which means she's capable of much bigger numbers in certain situations where the boss can be imperiled. Barb is also a mana battery and has some other utility on top of that. Onion Knight, Loren, Lunera and Fohlen chain with her without needing an elemental weap, plus the ever-present Shantotto monster and Kunshira for extra elemental finishing, when he comes around. There are also a lot of Tornado users in the future for her to elemental chain with: 7* Rem, 7* Dark Fina, 7* Swimsuit Dark Fina, 6* Rinoa, 6* Lexi, 6* Lekisa and 6* Kid Rydia. Emperor's new Chaos Wind trick at *7 also stacks well. If a boss resists wind in any way (which is not exactly uncommon), it's TTerra, hands down. Varance fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Nov 13, 2017 |
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Being better in niche situations and worse on less niche situations, thats actually a negative you know. Barb can potentially do more damage than T.Terra if 1- you can maintain an imperil on the boss and 2- if you can take advantage of her gear options to exploit magic killers. Barbs mp restores is low on the total MP recovery, not as bad as Aileen but still not something that defines her character. Her shields are really loving niche and you wont be bringing her in a lot of fights where that wind res would be useful if the boss itself has wind resist of its own Not to mention a bunch of her damage comes from self finishing aeroja. So if she bites it at any point, you lose those stacks and it'll take 5 turns to get her back to full damage assuming you are doing tornado + aeroja finisher on the turns because its more damage than rushing aeroja on the long run.
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I'm not going to argue this one dogmatically, but T Terra does require an activation turn if she bites it. Tornado *is* the imperil, and a drat good one at that. Even if a boss cleanses, you can guarantee it'll be up for the finisher. Tornado is also comically easy to spark chain, and it's easier to get Shantottos than it is to get Trance Terras. This is the same thing that makes Agrias/Orlandeau/Darklord so good together. Nothing shares exact keyframes with Chaos Wave except for Chaos Wave. You can get close with Loren, Nyx or iNichol, but nothing has an identical hitcount for perfect sparking except for another Trance Terra. 7* Trance Terra has Dark and Fire-element versions of Chaos Wave and doesn't need to magically activate, at which point she becomes an absolute monster. 7* Rem also has something to chain with her, though again, it's not clean. Varance fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Nov 13, 2017 |
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I mean, stronger than tornado imperil. The math is already laid out, spark chaining double chaos wave just has a higher % modifier than spark chaining tornados and finishing with aeroja even accounting for the built in imperil. Really, Barb can only out damage T.Terra if she takes advantage of gear with killers on them and/or brings someone that can imperil wind harder than the base 50% and doesn't a waste a turn casting a limit break for it.
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Should I run Fryevia with Orlandu or GL Sakura? I do have two Ashes for Meditate and a Refia for Embolden if that helps.
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Nov 13, 2017 04:35
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So... you think we'll be getting a Tekken Collab sometime down the line?
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Nov 13, 2017 04:46
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No because then that means we might get a useful King.
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Nov 13, 2017 05:00
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After months of no rainbows, I pulled my third Queen. What the hell game?
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Evil Fluffy posted:No because then that means we might get a useful King. You just know they'd make Jin or Kazuya the base 5*. While a cool guy like Yoshimitsu or Jack is stuck as the 3* nobody wants.
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Nov 13, 2017 06:52
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Heihachi's limit burst better be throwing someone into a volcano.
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VextheGrey posted:After months of no rainbows, I pulled my third Queen. What the hell game? All you need now is 21m gil and 36 purecrysts.
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Are we ever going to get another gil-snapper-and-metal-cactuar-in-the-fp-summon-pool event again? Aren't we well overdue?
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That and another raid. I feel my cash reserves just hasnt recovered yet
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Okay, I've got enough units now that I probably need help making a cohesive team: Healers: Refia Aria (unlevelled) Supports: Rikku Zargabaath Crowe (unlevelled) Soleil (unlevelled) Merc Ramza Cloud of Darkness Ilias Illusionist Nichol Tanks: Earth Veritas Sozhe? (unlevelled) Snow (unlevelled) Charlotte (unlevelled) Phys DPS: Orlandu King (ha) Lightningx2 (haha) Queen (hahaha) Glauca (unlevelled) Grace (unlevelled) Amelia (unlevelled) Magic DPS: Fryevia Ashex2 Dark Fina GL Sakura Exdeath Zyrus (unlevelled) ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Nov 13, 2017 |
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Nov 13, 2017 13:40
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But what if yoshimitsu has a good katana TMR 
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We already have Kamui tbh.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Okay, I've got enough units now that I probably need help making a cohesive team: Do you have any Ingis(?) for Letters & Arms? Fryevia is theoretically higher dps but needs more TMs than Orlandu, I think. Your party makeup varies wildly based on what you're doing, so leveling 'good' units is always worthwhile. That said, a general purpose party: VotE Rikku Orlandu + Orlandu friend, or Fryevia + Fryevia friend Zargablarg You could really use a breaker, too.
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I've got an Ingus at about 60%. Aside from Orlandu, my only other real breaker is I guess a Meliadoul. Ashe can do the DEF/SPR breaking though. (Also is it worth slotting in Nichol over VotE for Zargatanking? Since he can break too.)
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I forgot Orlandu has breaks  If you use Ashe you probably don't need an actual healer except for trial level content. I'm not super familiar with iNichol shenanigans since I never pulled one, so I'll let someone else chime in on that.
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ApplesandOranges posted:(Also is it worth slotting in Nichol over VotE for Zargatanking? Since he can break too.) I Nichol + Zarg is a fun trick, but you need a lot of TMRs and trial rewards to get Zarg up to 100% dodge, and even then it only works for physical damage. If you're putting out the DPS like you should be with chaining Orlandeaus and Fryevia's, then it will be overkill for everything but trials.
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