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really queer Christmas posted:almost like she’s a garbage human being who couldn’t even pretend to be a decent enough leader to fool enough people into voting for her something that even dunalD freakin TrOmp could do. She also didn't seemed think traditional campaigning had any value and thought fundraising was more important. While she was out shaking out coastal elites for campaign cash, Trump was converting safe blue areas to his cause.
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etalian posted:She also didn't seemed think traditional campaigning had any value and thought fundraising was more important. to be fair she did raise a lot of funds so the failure was at least expensive
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Shear Modulus posted:despite all our faith hillary is an absent figure, just like God
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At the end of the day the important thing is that the grifters got paid.
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Lastgirl posted:hillary hijacked this election as much as the russians did Hillary paid way more than Russians to have her way, and still got owned. A terrible neoliberal candidate, owned by neoliberal reality.
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Cerebral Bore posted:At the end of the day the important thing is that the grifters got paid. its a free country~
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loquacius posted:to be fair she did raise a lot of funds lol 1.4 billion raised and she still lost. I guess the lanyards actually won the race
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Hiring app developers, graphic designers, PR people , etc is how trickle-down words.
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loquacius posted:to be fair she did raise a lot of funds She made it a policy to only hire the finest, most expensive idiots she could find.
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Uranium posted:Hiring app developers, graphic designers, PR people , etc is how trickle-down words. It was subsidizing the creative class like all those shitheads who made holiday themed versions of the H logo.
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steinrokkan posted:Hillary paid way more than Russians to have her way, and still got owned. it's disgraceful that we've fallen so far behind the russians at buying elections, i thought this was america
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perhaps its the friends that we bought out along the way thats what really matters
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Cerebral Bore posted:We can't afford an election buying gap.
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I think the thing about Hillary is that she was endemic of the problem of just how sexist our political system (and society at large) is. If you were a woman and you weren't vapidly pro-war, pro-Wall Street, incredibly right wing (centrist, same thing) then you are absolutely shut out of politics at every turn. Hell, you even see this with Warren and how right wing her rethoric on foreign policy is. And if you remember Barbara Lee, the woman who voted against invading Afghanistan, she was absolutely threatened with death and violence when she correctly predicted there was no loving plan after we threw out the Taliban. I don't think you can call Hillary inspiring for women at all unless you consider empty symbolism covering for vocally supporting constitutional restrictions on abortion some sort of achievement.
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the true income inequality is between the lanyards and the rich. pleas think of the lanyards
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A rip-roaring election season with a twist ending and everyone got paid. Nice and tidy.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I'm still mad that she made things so much worse by not comforting all her supporters when they needed it. Even "our great country can survive anything" platitudes would have done wonders, but no. Part of a leader's job is to stand tall when everyone they're responsible for wants to sink to their knees and she failed utterly. Probably the most dead-on post I've seen on this subject was from Prester Jane, explaining that Hillary isn't a leader - she's an administrator.
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steinrokkan posted:Meanwhile the cohorts of men who denounced capitalism and won elections include most popular politican in america right now is... who just unseated the house gop whip??? current labour party leader that smashed the conservative majority and is the prime minister in waiting?!?
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Oh Snapple! posted:Probably the most dead-on post I've seen on this subject was from Prester Jane, explaining that Hillary isn't a leader - she's an administrator. She dresses like a Star Trek colony administrator
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Homeless Friend posted:i hope they got free pizza at javits or at the very least free anal
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Taintrunner posted:most popular politican in america right now is... All of them are massive loving outliers, who would have been considered absolutely unworkable two years ago - and they have their entire political systems mobilizing forces against them.
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Taintrunner posted:I think the thing about Hillary is that she was endemic of the problem of just how sexist our political system (and society at large) is. If you were a woman and you weren't vapidly pro-war, pro-Wall Street, incredibly right wing (centrist, same thing) then you are absolutely shut out of politics at every turn. Hell, you even see this with Warren and how right wing her rethoric on foreign policy is. And if you remember Barbara Lee, the woman who voted against invading Afghanistan, she was absolutely threatened with death and violence when she correctly predicted there was no loving plan after we threw out the Taliban. I don't think you can call Hillary inspiring for women at all unless you consider empty symbolism covering for vocally supporting constitutional restrictions on abortion some sort of achievement. thats why I asked to not comment or criticize that bit on her because it's a grey area that your purity tests just can't get there, and binary thinking only gets so far and you will only come off as potentially misogynistic even with good intention to not do so. There are far more principled women politicians that have managed to balance their ambition with their values though. It's pretty stark and damning if all American social commentary has to offer with feminism+politics is Hillary goddamn Rodham Clinton. Instead of getting into a moral  quagmire, just push more progressive women and phase out the last half of 20th century America, because we're all seeing the culmination as a zeitgeist(income inequality, racism, and sexism being deadlocked by a bunch of old white men) as a result and it makes me want to throw up.
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lmao they're gonna chase suburbs forever
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steinrokkan posted:All of them are massive loving outliers, who would have been considered absolutely unworkable two years ago - and they have their entire political systems mobilizing forces against them. great i'm thrilled to see leftist women come up beside them to fight the hard fight, like kshama sawant and nina turner
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Regardless of gender, choosing the path of servitude to moneyed interests is the only way to become structurally integrated into the political system as is. Choosing a path of rejecting capital in politics can only lead to success outside the structures, despite their efforts, a personal victory against blatant discrimination, an ephemeral achievement that can be undone by random chance at any moment.Taintrunner posted:great i'm thrilled to see leftist women come up beside them to fight the hard fight, like kshama sawant and nina turner Well yes, what's your point?
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"look, we threw you a friggin bone with a woman candidate, what more do you want"steinrokkan posted:Well yes, what's your point? in c-spam, oftentimes there is no point TURNER!!!
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got any sevens posted:lmao they're gonna chase suburbs forever Suburbs are pretty much the reason for the dems sweep in VA
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Taintrunner posted:most popular politican in america right now is... two out of three ain’t bad
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socialism is more popular than ever which is why it’s puzzling that Bernie keeps saying away from the subject
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:two out of three ain’t bad I liked the story of the Bernie Bro who won the Manassas race without any sort of support from VA bad dems.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:socialism is more popular than ever which is why it’s puzzling that Bernie keeps saying away from the subject Much less puzzling than why a "socialist" would preach the virtues of a Kissinger loving neoliberal for a year or so, without being coerced.
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got any sevens posted:lmao they're gonna chase suburbs forever northam won massively because of nova and richmond suburbs
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steinrokkan posted:Much less puzzling than why a "socialist" would preach the virtues of a Kissinger loving neoliberal for a year or so, without being coerced. 
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