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Endorph posted:It's really weird to make snide shitposty attacks because someone didn't like a video game. We're all human beings here we can just talk about what we do and don't like You make weird snide shityposty attacks about people's feelings on video games all the time and in particular seem to take a lot of pleasure in making reductive and intentionally inflammatory statements about popular things just to draw attention. This is a pretty weird thing to post as if you're just looking to have a conversation. GulagDolls posted:if its similar to a childrens cartoon then ppl should probably stop writing several thousand paragraphs analyzing it Children's cartoons actually have a fair bit to analyze if you're going in that direction. Often attempts to have simple morality or overt and obvious themes can lead to them saying things both intentional and unintentional that more nuanced works can't or won't really say. It also can lead to a lot of tedious nonsense but so is all media analysis ever. Taking it SUPER SERIOUSLY and acting like you're king poo poo of brain mountain because you went "well, why doesn't Batman kill the Joker?" is one thing but it's fine to look at something aimed at children and consider the message it's sending.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:31
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yes i admit im just salty cause people talk about undertale all the time but nobody EVER wants to talk about the true nature of 'freedan' in illusion of gaia with me
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Nov 13, 2017 17:33
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Yeah give us a trip report please. Tengai Makyou is a series I’ve always been curious about but never enough to actually play.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:33
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Endorph posted:I mean he just said he thought it was hamfisted. And undertale is clearly, super obviously, trying to be a metathing about game design and fandom. That isn't overanalysis the game literally tells you this. So like, why can't you criticize its methods of exploring those themes? they got really mad if I'm not allowed to make fun of people who gets really mad at videogame writing, especially undertale, which is basically a feels-good game aimed at kids and teenagers then what the hell am I supposed to do Like I'm sure corn in the bible probably don't even care, I don't know why you're so heated up at a jest
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Nov 13, 2017 17:33
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GulagDolls posted:yes i admit im just salty cause people talk about undertale all the time but nobody EVER wants to talk about the true nature of 'freedan' in illusion of gaia with me *kicks in door* I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE PSYCHO FLARE POWER UP WAS OVERRATED
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Nov 13, 2017 17:34
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Every post I've made about chrono trigger is 100 percent sincere and ive explained my feelings on it multiple times?
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Nov 13, 2017 17:34
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When I was a child I always thought you could find a way to exit a dungeon as Freedan and I was so bummed out when the game just made you auto-revert to Will at the exit.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:34
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Tired Moritz posted:if I'm not allowed to make fun of people who gets really mad at videogame writing, especially undertale, which is basically a feels-good game aimed at kids and teenagers then what the hell am I supposed to do
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Nov 13, 2017 17:35
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Oxxidation posted:When I was a child I always thought you could find a way to exit a dungeon as Freedan and I was so bummed out when the game just made you auto-revert to Will at the exit.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:36
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GulagDolls posted:yes i admit im just salty cause people talk about undertale all the time but nobody EVER wants to talk about the true nature of 'freedan' in illusion of gaia with me I replayed this a week or so ago and completely forgot about Freedan's Aura Barrier
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Nov 13, 2017 17:37
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Getsuya posted:Yeah give us a trip report please. Tengai Makyou is a series I’ve always been curious about but never enough to actually play. Same. I always got the vague impression that they were mostly DQ clones with over the top wacky characters but I'm guessing there's probably a lot more to them than that. I've only played the fighting game which is essentially a Sam Sho clone 
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Nov 13, 2017 17:38
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"I get really mad at hamfistedness in a children game" isn't hard-hitting criticisms. it's weird because you can't stop yourself from making GBS threads on people that likes FEH and other crap but oooh, it's okay if it's a game that you dislike.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:38
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Oxxidation posted:*kicks in door* I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE PSYCHO FLARE POWER UP WAS OVERRATED That's because it is, it's completely nuts. But you also don't get to use it for a particularly large portion of the game either, and once you get Shadow nothing else matters. Also IIRC depends on if you're grabbing all the red jewels or not, I think that gives you access to some stuff earlier than normal?
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Nov 13, 2017 17:40
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Tired Moritz posted:"I get really mad at hamfistedness in a children game" isn't hard-hitting criticisms. And it's not like I havent explained multiple times why I'm not big on feh's game design. And I play the thing sometimes, I don't hate it. And like, undertale got popular with kids but I don't think the game filled with references to 90s jrpgs and with a bunch of pretty messed up imagery and concepts was meant for kids in the first place. It fills like it was meant to be aimed at 20-somethings who like earthbound and it just happened to be popular with we audience way beyond that.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:40
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:That's because it is, it's completely nuts. But you also don't get to use it for a particularly large portion of the game either, and once you get Shadow nothing else matters. oh yeah sure shadow, ultimate being, etc etc, what can they do again "i can melt" can you shoot hadokens out of your sword "no but" geddafuckouttahere
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Nov 13, 2017 17:41
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Oh hey look some RPG news http://www.siliconera.com/2017/11/13/english-version-chinese-paladin-sword-fairy-6-release-november-15/ Can someone who knows Chinese tell us if Chinese Paladin Sword Fairy 6 is a game worth getting hyped for?
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Nov 13, 2017 17:41
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Getsuya posted:Oh hey look some RPG news
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Nov 13, 2017 17:43
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Some people just post like a Kotaku article and start off with 3 words, followed by the actual meaning behind it an hour later
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Nov 13, 2017 17:50
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GulagDolls posted:yes i admit im just salty cause people talk about undertale all the time but nobody EVER wants to talk about the true nature of 'freedan' in illusion of gaia with me That's because everyone knows that he's a manifestation of Will's homosexual desires for Lance.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:50
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Oxxidation posted:oh yeah sure shadow, ultimate being, etc etc, what can they do again It's that once you get Shadow (at the Pyramid), there's no content that uses Freedan anymore. Shadow takes over completely for the last two dungeons of the game and is the only thing you use (other than like two spots where you need the spin dash), whether you like the thing or not. Game always felt really weird to me because of that, but I guess you get to use Freedan for like 60% of the game so it's not like you don't get enough use out of him.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:50
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Oxxidation posted:When I was a child I always thought you could find a way to exit a dungeon as Freedan and I was so bummed out when the game just made you auto-revert to Will at the exit. yes. on the other side it seems like everyone playing the game for the first time is really surprised you can fight the vampires as freedan I can't remember if there's a line that implies that will's friends are even aware that sometimes he transforms into a big knight guy
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Nov 13, 2017 17:52
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Mariko Ōhara (大原まり子 Ōhara Mariko, born March 20, 1959 in Osaka, Japan) is a Japanese science fiction writer. In her teens, she wrote Kirk/Spock fan fiction. freedan's name does sound like someone just combined two names for a fanfic pairing
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Nov 13, 2017 17:53
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Actually now that I think about it a little and I've mentioned shock value, I'd forgotten Nep's Conquest ending. I recall the jarring tonal shift of "mediocre fanservicey parody game" to "literal child murder" kinda surprised/pissed people. I wonder what the thought process that led to adding that was?
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Nov 13, 2017 17:54
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GulagDolls posted:Mariko Ōhara (大原まり子 Ōhara Mariko, born March 20, 1959 in Osaka, Japan) is a Japanese science fiction writer. In her teens, she wrote Kirk/Spock fan fiction. Wow, that is some generic taste.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:55
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HGH posted:Actually now that I think about it a little and I've mentioned shock value, I'd forgotten Nep's Conquest ending. I recall the jarring tonal shift of "mediocre fanservicey parody game" to "literal child murder" kinda surprised/pissed people.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:57
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GulagDolls posted:yes. on the other side it seems like everyone playing the game for the first time is really surprised you can fight the vampires as freedan I think Eric promises not to tell anyone if you finish the vampires battle as Freedan, but it's been a while and the game's translation was dodgy to begin with.
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Nov 13, 2017 17:59
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For some reason Chinese Paladin just reminds me of Paladin's Quest, which had a lot of neat ideas and a neat aesthetic that really deserved to be tacked onto a better game. Also what was the last decent ARPG in the vein of Secret of Mana/Illusion of Gaia/Terranigma?
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Nov 13, 2017 18:08
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GrandpaPants posted:For some reason Chinese Paladin just reminds me of Paladin's Quest, which had a lot of neat ideas and a neat aesthetic that really deserved to be tacked onto a better game. Top-down arpg? Did you already play YS origin?
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Nov 13, 2017 18:09
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GrandpaPants posted:For some reason Chinese Paladin just reminds me of Paladin's Quest, which had a lot of neat ideas and a neat aesthetic that really deserved to be tacked onto a better game. Alundra
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Nov 13, 2017 18:12
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Oxxidation posted:I think Eric promises not to tell anyone if you finish the vampires battle as Freedan, but it's been a while and the game's translation was dodgy to begin with. I mean they all know he has telekinesis and one of their friends can turn into a dandelion (and Seth is fishfood), so it's not that unusual, really.
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Nov 13, 2017 19:23
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Getsuya posted:Oh hey look some RPG news It's a good series, generally. Pretty well respected in China, and the first one has a fan translation. Nobody knows much about 6, though, of course, and the translation SOFTSTAR did for Gate of Firmament was incredibly shoddy so I guess I'd say we should wait and see? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ0RBDr3DgU
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Nov 13, 2017 19:51
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I hope rather than a sequel XBX gets a directors cut that changes the game flow, adds in the story/lore that was pretty obviously cut (like wtf was up with those shadow creatures and the telethia) and adds a post game that explores what happens after that post credits cliffhanger twist. I absolutely love the gameplay, setting and the exploration but the story and how the missions played out were half-baked at best.
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Nov 13, 2017 20:19
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I want a plot that focuses more on the planet. The main draw of XBX for me is exploring the planet, throughout the game there are various hints that Mira is a weird planet that you can't actually escape from and that it interacts in weird ways with anyone on it. A plot about figuring out the mystery of planet would go hand in hand with my main draw.
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Nov 13, 2017 20:39
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Endorph posted:Every post I've made about chrono trigger is 100 percent sincere and ive explained my feelings on it multiple times? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEelz0iUJo
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Nov 13, 2017 21:46
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Are there any rpgs with a plot similar to the tactics ogre law route?
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Nov 13, 2017 22:02
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ninjewtsu posted:Are there any rpgs with a plot similar to the tactics ogre law route? Suikoden 5 has you do some pretty shady stuff for the greater good, if that’s the aspect you’re talking about.
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Nov 13, 2017 22:03
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I'd also like to hear more about Tengai Makyou Zero. I'm interested.Getsuya posted:Oh hey look some RPG news I tried to play the first game in this series a while back but I was stymied by the sub-comprehensible fan translation and really labyrinthine dungeons. It was fairly basic, but I appreciated that it was trying to tell specifically a love story, and wuxia is an underused setting in video games. It was very pretty for its age. However, my understanding is that its sequels diverge considerably.
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Nov 13, 2017 22:07
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I'm thinking mostly of the bit where after chapter 1 you're asked to slaughter a town of innocent people and if you say yes the game says "ok, what does a story about the person who decided to do this look like" Without knowing specifics of "shady poo poo" I guess it's hard to know if that describes what I'm thinking of? Tactics ogre law route has a pretty overt theme of "I've done some unquestionably awful things, but I am creating a better world by being the one willing to soak my hands in blood" and I thought that was really cool. Law denam is arguably not an evil person but he's certainly done and continues to do evil deeds and the relatives of those he's murdered keep showing up to remind him of that
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you should play der langrisser
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