peter gabriel posted:

Mine is simple.
See a wall of text, read none of it (this is important) - reply to the wall of text with 'You are wrong'
When you notice an alert on reddit go see what it is, it'll be that nerd writing another huge wall of text, this time with shitloads of links to 'back up my points with evidence' or whatever, it doesn't matter, do not read this post either (this part is important)
Reply with 'doesn't matter how many words you type, you are still wrong on every level'
Then just ignore the next alert and go about your day. they'll probably reply but gently caress it, whatever.

AP posted:

They won't do this if pushed on it, they will offer to put gifted ships into a new account if closing your account and value is over what you paid (credit on account > spent).

They have refused to refund gifted ships but seem to have stopped doing that recently, they'd give in on that too if pushed (as long as total you've spent is equal to or more than the refund amount). In the past they've also returned gifted ships to the original owner. You can even get subscriptions refunded if you play hardball.

Basically they lie to people about what they have the right to do as the only time they'll get in trouble is if someone takes them to court or complains to someone with the power to investigate.

Dusty Lens posted:

That seems to be accurate. A friend finally secured a refund on his second attempt and, at best, they refunded the dollar value of anything he had that was original to his account and not gifted. Gifted ships apparently just vanish in a puff of smoke and the original purchaser gets nothing. From what I can tell other people have relayed similar experiences.

I'm curious if they're altering the deal. Much like they did when they shifted over to single time gift pledges.

VictorianQueerLit posted:

It would be like Best Buy refusing to refund the price of a television with a valid receipt because I wasn't present at the time of the original transaction and then taking the television away from me with no compensation. Their obligation and responsibility extends to their products by refunding the money they were paid in exchange for the return of those products for whatever reasons justified the return.

D_Smart posted:

No he doesn't. I asked him; but he blocked me.

Dusty Lens posted:

Good to know. Understandable that it doesn't often come up. After weeks of back and forth coupled with a mounting urgency to get into a lifeboat I'm sure most people are just happy to get any kind of out at all, let alone assert that more needs to be done.

D_Smart posted:

No he doesn't. I asked him; but he blocked me.

D_Smart posted:

intardnation posted:

only 40 hours to unlock darth vader (oops typo 40 hours) in a game you just spent 60-150 bucks on.

quote:

The Star Wars Battlefront II: Elite Trooper Deluxe Edition turns your troopers into the ultimate opponents. Every trooper class (Officer, Assault, Heavy, and Specialist) is upgraded, delivering superior firepower, deadly weapon modifications, and epic abilities.

Mirificus posted:

VictorianQueerLit posted:

Yeah I've always been curious what legal standing CIG has to refuse to refund a product to either the person that now rightfully owns it or the person that originally bought it.

It would be like Best Buy refusing to refund the price of a television with a valid receipt because I wasn't present at the time of the original transaction and then taking the television away from me with no compensation. Their obligation and responsibility extends to their products by refunding the money they were paid in exchange for the return of those products for whatever reasons justified the return.

I guess if you want to talk about legal issues then you might also mention they refuse to accept store credit or their gift cards as currency when selling select products. A real store can't tell you to gently caress off with your gift certificates and store credit because letting you use them prevents you from giving them money for the new transaction. That's like the entire point of store credit and gift certificates.

Golli posted:

Probably someone paid for Star Citizen Powerleveling and then realized that someone sold all of their ships.

Apparently there are powerleveling services for a game that does not exist and does not have levels if it did.

https://www.r4pg.com/star-citizen-power-leveling

Christ J posted:

+Asghaad "except that exactlly IS a start of development, you dont get to work on project and then just say it actually wasnt and delete year from the development time ... they started the project in 2011"- no, this was preliminary work that would usually take place while you were working on the preceding game. GTA 5 did the exact same thing while making GTA 4, which means you either add an arbitrary year to Star Citizen and an equivalent FIVE years to GTA 5, or you accept that choosing an engine is not actually part of developing the game you'll be using it for.That's what that was, by the way: Chris Roberts was simply choosing the engine he was going to use. I'm aware of nothing that was used from that concept, because it was literally purely to see if the engine could handle what he wanted to do with it." GTA 5 was started AFTER they finished GTA 4"- yes, immediately after, which means it started in April of 2008."because port is separate product ... unless game is developed for multiple systems AT THE SAME TIME "- which fits GTA 5 perfectly, because they built the entire game while considering that it was going to be on PC. Done."3.) nope"- why the gently caress are you numbering things? I didn't, which means your numbers have no reference point. You're not quoting the part that you're saying "nope" to, so you have no textual reference point either.No wonder you're struggling to steer clear of logical fallacies and hypocrisy..."the fact is that GTA 5 is a CONSOLE game that was later PORTED to function on PC... PC was NOT its target audience and the time it took to get it ported reflects that ... game was developed, finished and published on given system and AFTER the RELEASE of the game completely separate, small and underfunded team worked on PORTING - ie NOT developing anything - the FINISHED game for PC"- bullshit, according to Rockstar:"We were always going to bring GTA 5 to PC. We planned from day 1 for a PC build and we made technical decisions based off the fact that we would be doing a PC version of the game." - it's unclear, but this comes from either Phil Hooker, Adam Fowler, or Klass Shilstra. Then there's the fact that they were leaking DX11 bug lists well before it was released on Ps3, proving that you are wrong about the PC version being a port that only began after the console versions were released. These pre-date the PS3 release by a year.Kevin Hoare, President of Rockstar Toronto, said" early development [of the PC version] was done in parallel with the console versions". So, in short, the PC version was started alongside the PS3 and X360 versions, so it WAS in development in 2008. He also pointed out that " In fact, some of the early preparations we made for PC, like 64 bit & DX11 support, paid off very handsomely when the PS4 and Xbox One architectures were announced".But, I'm sure a fuckwitted little pussy like you knows more about the development of GTA 5 than the people who worked on it, right...?Owned, bitch."fine, let it be 118 milion, ill take your 137 mil for GTA5 over 260 mil i wrote any day xD didnt hel your cause much"- it didn't have to. I'm not the one making up fictitious data to help support my collapsing assertions. I'm happy to have accurate information, whereas you are only happy if information supports your bullshit.What that has done is highlight me as honest, and highlight you as inherently dishonest." if GTA5 could be RELEASED in 4 years from the development start "- so where was the PC release in 2012? Oh, and why are you now trying to chop off a few extra months? Feeling insecure about Squadron 42 being slated for release in the next six months...?GTA 5 took over six years to develop and release on PC. That's your benchmark, whether you like it or not. Rockstar developers and producers are quoted here as stating that the development of the PC version coincided with the PS3 version, which means it began in 2008. You have no valid response to that, so don't even bother replying with anything other than outright, unconditional acceptance. Rockstar themselves have told you that you are wrong - end of argument."SC so far have released only separate bits of pre-alpha proof of concept"- if that's how you classify the current build then I am perfectly entitled to classify GTA 3 as a "pre-alpha proof of concept"[sic] for GTA 5."to test an alpha stage of the game you have to actuall have a whole package of BASIC features in sayd game "- says who? Only you, by the looks of things:"An alpha test is a preliminary software field test carried out by a team of users in order to find bugs that were not found previously through other tests. The main purpose of alpha testing is to refine the software product by finding (and fixing) the bugs that were not discovered through previous tests. "- found here:https://www.techopedia.com/definition/5935/alpha-testIn fact, since testing by potential users is usually referred to as beta-testing, the current system is a lot more like a conventional beta than an alpha.It's in alpha, and has been for several years. That is not open for debate just because you want to redefine "alpha" in order to discriminatorily exclude Star Citizen. That's all you're doing: trying to change the meaning of "alpha" so that you can force Star Citizen out of the actual definition. You're pulling another bait-and-switch."if you didnt notice i didnt include any story elements or any part of sq.42 as requirement for the alpha because that woudl be closer to beta material"- progression is a BASIC feature, which means your own rules are internally inconsistent. They are self-contradictory. What a loving retard!"once they merge them and actually include the persistent universe with flight, combat and shooter modules TOGETHER "- the original game was NEVER slated to feature a Persistent Universe, so that one can be omitted entirely. However, the current build does feature flight, combat and shooter modules all rolled into one seamless experience - just as they were supposed to. There was never going to be any distinction between these playstyles, so your tacit demand that Star Marine be included are rejected as fallacious.By your own standards, the current build is an alpha build, you loving moron.You can't win even when you're trying to stack the deck against it. All you've done it drop your cards onto the floor..." there is NO justification for insults in debate, never was, never will ... grow up kid, only irrational juveniles have to resort to raging and insults ..."- you insulted me three times within that one sentence, in which you stated that there was "No justification for insults in debate"[sic]. loving hypocrite.Incidentally, this is not, nor has it ever been, a debate. This is a case of an ignorant, lying little poo poo (you) repeatedly trying to fudge the numbers in order to attack something that he simply doesn't like. This is a case of a pathetic little oval office (you again) hiding behind anonymity to rabidly scream about something that he clearly has no real experience of, consisting entirely of made-up "facts" and fictional "evidence".I'm stating facts, while you soothe yourself with fairy tales."except RSI themselves promissed to release SQ42 THIS YEAR ( well first episode that is...) so theyr alloted time is less than six months "- GTA was slated to release in 2012, so by your logic it never came out at all.It's pencilled in for release this year. That's called a "projected" release date. By your own standards, they have at least as long to finish as Rockstar did, which gives them six years and three months, which began no earlier than October 2012. Their allotted finish date can be no later than April 2019, if we give them the same amount of time. Not that you're willing to give them the same amount of time, for some reason..."by that time the engine they use will be DATED and archaic "- the original CryEngine 3, maybe, but not the so-called StarEngine. Name me another engine that can support persistence and 64-bit precision over a comparable map size. Name me five games that'll release in that time that have a scope that'll come close to matching that of this game. I can think of maybe two, and neither of them can match the CURRENT mechanics and features, like seamless multi-crew gameplay and EVA. As it stands, no extant engine has been used to do anything comparable to what we can do right now in the ALPHA. "Archaic", my arse.You know gently caress all. The fact that so much of your assertion is based on demonstrable falsehoods is all I need to reject your bullshit outright. If you don't address those in-house Rockstar statements then I'm just going to paste this comment all over your profile pages, because they instantly refute everything you have claimed. Refusal to address them will be proof that you are doing nothing more than manipulating the data until it says what you always wanted it to say but that it never did.

thatguy posted:

I'm gay.

Dementropy posted:

Mirificus posted:

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/930165119270580227

https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/896059394474913792

Thoatse posted:

Star Citizen is Pandora's loot box

Spiderdrake posted:

Someone edit this terrible Ontario government ad to fit that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDWBpQuXohE

his face at the end is accurate though

Solarin posted:

This guy is creepy as gently caress

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/930165119270580227

https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/896059394474913792

Mirificus posted:

http://archive.is/mAofJ

Mirificus posted:

thatgay posted:

I'm gay.

Thoatse posted:

jester celebrating his victory after years of sick owns over Derek Smart and his band of goonies while outfoxing his fellow citizens

https://i.imgur.com/BZfL2wD.gifv

Scruffpuff posted:

I want to know who the CIG-paid guy is at PC Gamer. I'm old enough to remember when they weren't afraid to call something like this out.