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Captain Jesus posted:These are all things that worked. Anakin being a huge crybaby that's terrible with women is the best thing about AOTC. It's hilarious and clearly intentional. It's the same as Kylo Ren being pathetic and throwing tantrums in TFA. That really spoke to me as it reminded me of the time when I was a pathetic teenager that was terrible with women. Like everything in the prequels, its great on paper, but the execution is offputting to watch, for various reasons. Thinking about what happened is awesome, but seeing it on screen while it happens is not that enjoyable (for me).
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Its funny that the murdering psychopathic villain of three movies being a shithead in his origin story is just too much for some people to accept
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Nov 11, 2017 16:39
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He wasn't meant to be a poo poo head, he was meant to be a powerful conflicted worried man, pulled from several sides while being manipulated. He just comes off as a poo poo head due to terrible writing in a god awful movie.
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Nov 11, 2017 16:48
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504 posted:I'm always confused as gently caress at ANY of the theories/ideas that there was any more to the prequels than "Make more movies before the first three" Wait, what rear end gif? This is important.
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Nov 11, 2017 17:45
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Anakin in The Clone Wars is much better.
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Wild Horses posted:actually he's a hot and charismatic, if a bit awkward man of action who blows potential love interest for padme (like politicians ??? sounds boring) out of the water. He likes fascism and kills sand people, she's sold instantly But Padme is decidedly anti-fascism. She says so repeatedly, has the “how democracy dies” line, and is against the rise of the Empire. She wants nothing to do with the form of government Anakin describes, and should consider Anakin an enemy to what she stands for. Only she apparently considers this dreamy. I know the argument has been made that she is also emotionally stunted, so she doesn’t know what is a healthy relationship, and I mean, I guess, but I don’t think it makes for a particularly interesting story for her to always make the choice with Anakin that flies in the face of where her passions and politics lie./ ... Oh my god she’s a metaphor for the Republic’s relationship with Palpatine. This isn’t a fake post setting that up, I realized that at the end of the post.
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thrawn527 posted:Oh my god she’s a metaphor for the Republic’s relationship with Palpatine. This isn’t a fake post setting that up, I realized that at the end of the post. 
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Nov 11, 2017 18:15
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girls go for assertive bad boys, like the guy telling a senator to her face he likes fascism what a chad
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BarronsArtGallery posted:I gave an example earlier of how Palpatine's plan in Episode I made zero sense and was contradictory to achieving his goals. Do you just ignore it when watching TPM? I'm interested in a good discussion about this. Palpatine invents a plight for his planet's people so he can discredit the current chancellor and ride a wave of sympathy into being elected the next chancellor. As a bonus, his plan also portrays the Trade Federation as a threat to the sovereignty of Republic planets, helping set the stage for civil war. He succeeds.
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thrawn527 posted:But Padme is decidedly anti-fascism. She says so repeatedly, has the “how democracy dies” line, and is against the rise of the Empire. She wants nothing to do with the form of government Anakin describes, and should consider Anakin an enemy to what she stands for. Sounds pretty spot on for a liberal, to be honest.
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Nov 11, 2017 20:43
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Anakin was out sick with the porg pox the day Obi-wan did a seminar for the male mammalian younglings on the Jedi teaching to "hit it, then quit it." Nobody shared notes.
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dialhforhero posted:Wait, what rear end gif? http://coub.com/view/cpqpt I don't know how to make pictures go here. Also NSFW.
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Nov 13, 2017 02:50
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What are the odds that JGL stars in Rian Johnson's trilogy?
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Nov 13, 2017 05:03
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I got a porg latte in Japan. Porg.
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Jerkface posted:I got a porg latte in Japan. Porg. Wanna drink that Porg.
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Nov 13, 2017 10:02
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I heard a rumor that a porg was groping people on set of the new movie.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_Dap2HRL8 Poe drifting his X-Wing (probably has something to do with the experimental engine his ship is rumored to be fitted with in the 2nd act)
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:I heard a rumor that a porg was groping people on set of the new movie. Ahmed Best brought in for extensive reshoots.
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It's cool to change how space plane physics work after 40 years imo
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sebzilla posted:It's cool to change how space plane physics work after 40 years imo Actually, yeah, it is. None of these physics have ever made any sense, so have some fun.
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thrawn527 posted:Actually, yeah, it is. None of these physics have ever made any sense, so have some fun. I typed out a big dweeby response to this then lost interest in my own words. Proper space physics good, internal inconsistency bad. Maybe we'll start getting silent space explosions as well sometimes if they're created by special experimental ReelPhysix(tm) bombs?
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sebzilla posted:I typed out a big dweeby response to this then lost interest in my own words. Star Wars is space fantasy, not sci-fi.
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Nov 13, 2017 16:45
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No one gives a poo poo about space physics.
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Vintersorg posted:No one gives a poo poo about space physics. Not in Star Wars, but I would like to see a sci-fi movie that used them. It might end up playing out like a submarine thriller, but that could be fun.
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BarronsArtGallery posted:I gave an example earlier of how Palpatine's plan in Episode I made zero sense and was contradictory to achieving his goals. Do you just ignore it when watching TPM? I'm interested in a good discussion about this. quote:We're shown that there is a literal phantom menace pulling the strings of the trade federation and are to assume they have a competent plan, but at the same time Palpatine wants to force a treaty to be signed so that he can legalize an occupation of his home planet and remove the reason for him to advance to chancellor???
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Martman posted:You said this: He wanted the Trade Federation to force a treaty to make the occupation of Naboo legal. It would have removed the entire dispute from being able to come forward to the Galactic Senate and gain enough sympathy to have him elected Chancellor.
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BarronsArtGallery posted:He wanted the Trade Federation to force a treaty to make the occupation of Naboo legal. It would have removed the entire dispute from being able to come forward to the Galactic Senate and gain enough sympathy to have him elected Chancellor. Refresh my memory - was it Palpatine, the senator who wanted the treaty, or was it Palpatine, the mastermind?
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BarronsArtGallery posted:He wanted the Trade Federation to force a treaty to make the occupation of Naboo legal. It would have removed the entire dispute from being able to come forward to the Galactic Senate and gain enough sympathy to have him elected Chancellor. How would that hurt his plans? A powerful Trade Federation would benefit him (because he controls them) and he'd be able to claim that the Senate sold out his people and that there needs to be new, fresh leadership to ensure that kind of thing never happens again.
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Ravenfood posted:Not in Star Wars, but I would like to see a sci-fi movie that used them. It might end up playing out like a submarine thriller, but that could be fun. There's a scene in the wing commander movie where everyone has to be really quiet on their spaceship so the enemy scanners can't pick them up.
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sebzilla posted:I typed out a big dweeby response to this then lost interest in my own words.
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[quote="“spacetoaster”" post="“478369628”"] There’s a scene in the wing commander movie where everyone has to be really quiet on their spaceship so the enemy scanners can’t pick them up. [/quote] With Juergen Prochnow ffs.
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spacetoaster posted:There's a scene in the wing commander movie where everyone has to be really quiet on their spaceship so the enemy scanners can't pick them up. That's got to be satire. From what I recall of that movie, it's not unlikely. Is it worth a rewatch?
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TheMaestroso posted:Refresh my memory - was it Palpatine, the senator who wanted the treaty, or was it Palpatine, the mastermind? Stop respond8ng to tezzor
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Doctor Spaceman posted:How would that hurt his plans? The only reason they are able to get the no confidence vote is because of how obviously Valorum is being bribed to ignore the crisis. Without the crisis, the chancellor would be able to say, "Nope, everything worked out, Naboo even signed a treaty to end the crisis." Palpatine would have no standing to challenge Valorum's leadership. I guess, if you really want to stretch it, you could argue that Palpatine knew the Jedi would escape and bring the Queen to Coruscant, but that doesn't explain why he sent Darth Maul after them on Tatooine.
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I feel like this fits into the current tone of this thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrPPj3e2M-M Wank fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Nov 14, 2017 |
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The original plan was for Amidala to sign the treaty at gunpoint (or be killed resisting), then Palpatine casting himself as a victim of the TradeFed and also Republic inaction, creating more goodwill that he will cash on some time later when he finds another pretext to have Valorum ousted. That's why he sends Maul to Tatooine, to eliminate the loose end. But when that fails and he has a Queen on his hands, he jumps on the opportunity of an angry and vulnerable youth (another!) to aim her at Valorum, who he has spent years weakening while presenting himself as the acceptable compromise candidate of Senate factions. All the Jedi/Naboo effort ends up giving him the chancellorship months or years earlier than plotted.
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sweet geek swag posted:Without the crisis, the chancellor would be able to say, "Nope, everything worked out, Naboo even signed a treaty to end the crisis." Palpatine would have no standing to challenge Valorum's leadership. Martman fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Nov 14, 2017 |
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