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Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
There are a lot of other details here, but in a vacuum I think it's totally fine to want PIV to last longer than literally two minutes. I don't think you should customize your sexhaving* for someone you aren't with anymore, but I don't think she's a bad or contemptuous person for wanting more than two minutes of penetration.

*even in a way that doesn't harm yourself, I don't see where that part's coming from but obviously that's a no-go

I think the best thing both of you guys can do, although I realize you can't make her do this, is educating yourself on how reproduction and birth control work tbh.

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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Jerk off shortly before banging?

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

oliveoil posted:

Well, it sounds pretty likely that she'll feel like getting back together, so I wouldn't say she's "gone".

And I don't have any trouble staying hard after coming, I don't really go soft afterward. It's just the matter having to clean up that is the main problem.

And my ex has never made me feel bad about anything. I really thought she was happy with the sex we were having. It was later after we broke up that she admitted that even though she came and it felt good to have sex, it didn't last as long as she wanted and she always felt like she wanted it to continue.

If we do get back to together, then I don't want to compromise on this - I just want to do it exactly how she wants it. Compromise is a good and fine thing but I'd like to give her what she finds ideal. And if not her, then someone else later. And let's not forget that I would personally enjoy this very much myself.


Okay have you considered at all that she's saying this specifically to hurt you and make you feel like you're not good enough for her? Considering the little details that you've revealed here it really reads like she broke up with you and you are still sprung and trying to hold on to it and get back together. Getting into EN a little bit here but I don't think that's a good idea. You're acting now like if you can just fix this one thing and give her what she really wants everything will be fine and you'll be happily together forever. Getting into a relationship like that where one person is going to have to work their rear end off to keep their partner from leaving is not a great foundation to start with especially with a couple who has already broken up once.

And lol no poo poo she wanted it to continue. If my lady said that to me I'd be like "poo poo me too" but as long as everybody's getting off there's not too much to complain about. We've all got things we would change about ourselves but if she's a good partner she's going to be willing to meet you halfway. But it really doesn't sound like she's a good partner.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

oliveoil posted:

Well, it sounds pretty likely that she'll feel like getting back together, so I wouldn't say she's "gone".

And I don't have any trouble staying hard after coming, I don't really go soft afterward. It's just the matter having to clean up that is the main problem.

And my ex has never made me feel bad about anything. I really thought she was happy with the sex we were having. It was later after we broke up that she admitted that even though she came and it felt good to have sex, it didn't last as long as she wanted and she always felt like she wanted it to continue.

If we do get back to together, then I don't want to compromise on this - I just want to do it exactly how she wants it. Compromise is a good and fine thing but I'd like to give her what she finds ideal. And if not her, then someone else later. And let's not forget that I would personally enjoy this very much myself.

E: I didn't realize the risk of pregnancy was the same regardless of whether she cleans up immediately after I come inside her or waits until a half-hour later, after I've come inside her a few more times. But I think finding a bunch of articles on the Internet to try to "prove" that's she's wrong and that her fear here is invalid is a pretty lovely thing to do. Maybe combined with briefly pulling out, this might be reassuring. Not sure.

It's not lovely to educate someone on how BC works to alleviate their fears. Just don't do it like a jackass.

I'm going to agree with everyone that you probably shouldn't get back together, at least based on the limited information we have. She wasn't communicating her sexual dissatisfaction, and bad communication around sex often means bad communication in general, and you sound too insecure to make a good partner right now; with what I'm seeing, I can't see it ending any way but another break-up.

That said, you are feeling self-conscious about your PiV stamina, and improving that for your own sake, not hers, that's a fine thing. I'd recommend using lube when you jerk it, and a fleshlight-type toy if you can, to get more used to that kind of stimulation, and try going fast, then pausing when you get close. A lot of what sex stamina is is knowing yourself and speeding up or slowing down accordingly. Now, even with that, most people will definitely cum after 2-3 minutes of porn-style jackhammering, so if that's what you mean by not lasting long enough, that's just not going to happen, but it's not hard to make PiV last at least 7-10 minutes by varying your pace well.

hoobajoo fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Nov 12, 2017

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011
Wait, she’s stopping sex to clean out your semen as a BIRTH CONTROL METHOD?

That’s really the star of the show here

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Wait... people cum though piv sex?

drat I’ve been doing this all wrong.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

LingcodKilla posted:

Wait... people cum though piv sex?

drat I’ve been doing this all wrong.
sometimes, and mostly men only

ZombieJesus
Feb 26, 2005

He died for your sins, he rose for your BRAINS
One thing I've found has helped me, is focusing on my breath. I find if I subconsciously pause my breathing (even for 2 or 3 seconds, which will often happen when you're aroused and going at it), then my chances of coming or edging are much greater. Focus on regulating your breath, evenly and without pauses. It helps! Maybe it's a physical thing, or maybe just distracting from the sensation, but either way

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I do math, I just double a number over and over

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Aexo
May 16, 2007
Don't ask, I don't know how to pronounce my name either.
In my head, repeating "popcorn" did it for me when I was a teen.

ninja edit: no, I don't like popcorn

Oenis
Mar 15, 2012
You could probably also hum popcorn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjxNnqTcHhg) in your head to great (comedic) effect. But yeah, slowing down when you feel yourself getting close is the advice I always read. Try it while masturbating, but don't overdo it. 15 years of that poo poo and I have a really hard time orgasming from sex, and I envy everyone who can. You can always compensate with good oral to make her come first (a lot of the ladies don't find penetration to be that stimulating anyways) but you can't make up the loss of self-esteem your partner gets if you cannot cum at all.

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

What should the gf and I do to find a lady for a threesome?

Also, I'm fairly vanilla and don't know what my kinks are. Trying to figure our how to explore that

And my gf has never cum in her entire life, sex or no. Ideas?

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Yossarian-22 posted:

What should the gf and I do to find a lady for a threesome?

Also, I'm fairly vanilla and don't know what my kinks are. Trying to figure our how to explore that

And my gf has never cum in her entire life, sex or no. Ideas?

Rapid fire answers: I'm not sure, watch porn and try different stuff, and focus on the clit.

Figure out the last two before doing the first one though, you should be pretty aware of your sexuality and happy with your love life before involving a third person.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Yossarian-22 posted:

What should the gf and I do to find a lady for a threesome?

Also, I'm fairly vanilla and don't know what my kinks are. Trying to figure our how to explore that

And my gf has never cum in her entire life, sex or no. Ideas?


Thats Bait

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Mocking Bird posted:

Wait, she’s stopping sex to clean out your semen as a BIRTH CONTROL METHOD?

That’s really the star of the show here

Yes, that's completely insane and accomplishes absolutely nothing.

Like, what kind of sex education did this lady have?

oliveoil
Apr 22, 2016

Mocking Bird posted:

Wait, she’s stopping sex to clean out your semen as a BIRTH CONTROL METHOD?

That’s really the star of the show here

No, I'm sorry if that is what I said. She uses a pill form of BC, she just *also* prefers to stop and clean it out as an extra step, to minimize the amount of time it's in there so that risk of pregnancy is also decreased.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Yossarian-22 posted:

What should the gf and I do to find a lady for a threesome?

Choose two of the three: sane, unattached, interested in a threesome.

Someone who checks all three boxes is commonly referred to as a "unicorn."

Blood Nightmaster
Sep 6, 2011

“また遊んであげるわ!”

oliveoil posted:

No, I'm sorry if that is what I said. She uses a pill form of BC, she just *also* prefers to stop and clean it out as an extra step, to minimize the amount of time it's in there so that risk of pregnancy is also decreased.

I'm just gonna stop lurking for a second to say that that's a) definitely not how that works and b) that's depressing that she honestly thinks that's how that works

oliveoil
Apr 22, 2016
Actually, I now recall that the last time she wanted to talk about this and I said that we could have just kept going, her *first* response was something like "ew, that's so gross, why would you want to have sex with cum inside?" and then she said something like "and besides, I'm not comfortable with the risk of getting pregnant, remember?"

So maybe there's more than one reason there. I only heard her call it gross once, though, so not sure if that was her main reason and she didn't want to say it or if it was just something she didn't think of until then.

If it would make her feel gross then it would make her feel gross. I don't think that would be appropriate for me to argue against.

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011
This is literally what condoms are for

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Mocking Bird posted:

This is literally what condoms are for

But condoms are icky gross.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

oliveoil posted:

No, I'm sorry if that is what I said. She uses a pill form of BC, she just *also* prefers to stop and clean it out as an extra step, to minimize the amount of time it's in there so that risk of pregnancy is also decreased.

Yeah that's still not at all how either birth control or insemination works.

oliveoil
Apr 22, 2016

OwlFancier posted:

Yeah that's still not at all how either birth control or insemination works.

Why not?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Well as I said, birth control generally works by preventing egg release or implantation, you can stick your jizz in there with a turkey baster and it won't make any difference cos there's nothing to fertilize.

Also your dick is there to shoot jizz pretty far into someone, so unless cleaning up involves a pressure washer there's still going to be jizz in there. The vagina is partially self cleaning and will get rid of it eventually but you've still got viable material in there for a while. Your dick is evolutionarily engineered to get people preggers.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004


Whatever is in the uterus is in the uterus already, and cleaning the rest out is getting rid of the stuff that didn't get there, i.e. the stuff that doesn't matter. (I might be using 'uterus' slightly incorrectly there, but you get the idea) And as OwlFancier said, when you're on BC it doesn't matter if there's jizz inside or not. I mean, that's kinda the point.

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

Can't you just cum somewhere else and keep going? What the hell. You said it stays hard.

If you can continue loving after cumming then there is literally no issue here. Unless she just must have some elaborate ejaculation finish to end the event. Why are y'all making this so hard?

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yeah just pull out, make a deposit at the Sperm Bank of Socks and sons, then slam back in like a Chronicles of Riddick VHS tape.

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

OwlFancier posted:

so unless cleaning up involves a pressure washer there's still going to be jizz in there.

I literally spit my beer out while laughing at the mental picture this gave me. :roflolmao:

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

Sex Questions Megathread III: Still Going To Be Jizz In There

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

I mean most girls i have been with on BC usually grab a tissue or go to the toilet and push out the cum so it doesnt come out at an inconvenient time later but none of them ever 'cleaned it out' thats for sure.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

oliveoil posted:

No, I'm sorry if that is what I said. She uses a pill form of BC, she just *also* prefers to stop and clean it out as an extra step, to minimize the amount of time it's in there so that risk of pregnancy is also decreased.

That's not a thing, though. I mean, get back together with someone who is uninformed and uncommunicative about sex if you like, but at least you should have the correct information.

Also, part of why people are engaging with this here in the thread isn't to pile on, but to be sure no random person reading the thread in future picks up this incorrect information.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


It seems you missed out on some major bits of Sex Ed, and should seek remedial instruction.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I'm normally pretty dumb in this thread, but I am going to be as nice as physically possible because I really want you, and other lurkers to get this.

Your girlfriend thinks semen is a liquid, and not a living organism that exists to get people pregnant. She thinks that if she splashes water in her vagina, like it's a slightly acidic water park, that she'll be able to wash them out.

This is a vagina.

https://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/w...put-quality=100

Do you see that tiny uh... room? off the back of the skinny bit that makes your pee pee feel good?

If she's not into you AT ALL, it's 3 - 4 inches in. Which is really hard to splash water into, but if you just got into some hot and heavy fuckin' then that's a 6 - 8 inch river of semen and acid that she's trying to wash out.

She'd have to get that water 6 inches in and ALLL the way to the back, into a hole that's like 3 centimeters wide.

Like just to get the semen inside of her, you had to shoot semen out of your dick at 40 mph, just to get that in there (like a pressure hose coming out of your pubis.)

So when we say she's literally doing nothing, we mean, it's literally impossible for her, with a shower head instead of a water pick, to get water so far inside of her she would get the semen out.

Ontop of that, the vagina is acidic, the semen she is washing out is dead. The stuff that would make a baby is already locked in her incubator chamber, ready for some of those sweet sweet egg drops, like a gamer waiting for lootboxes.

Only instead of 3 commons and a rare, you get a baby.

Turtlicious fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Nov 15, 2017

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Oh yeah, and water has the opposite effect, semen has 2 specific components in it, that makes it incredibly sticky when water is applied, semenogelin, a coagulation protein and prostate solution antigen (PSA) a dissolving protein. They're there to help the semen swim up stream through the vaginal canal into that tiny room, and to get in dem eggs. Water interferes with PSA, and stops it from properly breaking down semenogelin, since semenogelin is a coagulant, it gets p. fuckin' sticky. That's why you can't jerk off in the shower without making a mess, but you can jerk it into a mason jar you hide by a space heater just fine. Not only that, there is no medical study that says water hurts semen's fertility ability. So you're not even denaturing it, you're just... making it sticky.'

Your girlfriend is making semen HARDER to wash out of her vagina, due to her inability to pay attention in SexEd (Or her state's inability to teach kids proper Sex Ed.)

e: LIke if you're going to ignore allllll of our advice, I guess keep letting her wash her vag out with water, but try and steer her away from soap or douches or whatever. That poo poo kills her natural flora, which exists to keep her natural pocket safe and healthy. Douching, or constant washing is gonna get her a yeast infection or some other bacterial grossness

e2: I'm not a Doctor, I just like reading about sex / vaginas / dicks.

e3: but like, thinking about it logically, basic math & physics are just... Not on your side.

e4: gently caress, I forgot, there's also a mucus membrane that exists JUST to keep water and debris, and basically anything BUT semen out, her uterus is a vault, and your girlfriend does not have a thermal drill. She has water.

e5: Oh right, christ, ok also the cervix mucus is impenetrable by semen (or nearly so,) most of the time except for when she's ready for babies. So like, if she's taking birth control, the semen didn't even get in the vault. She has a barren vault, and you'd need a super penis to even get semen INSIDE of her in the first place, the only reason women CAN get pregnant, is that it opens up like a temple in Zelda on the blood moon, and THEN she'd need a pressure washer to get it out. Christ Humans are both cool, and terrifying space aliens that were written by a cruel and unloving god. It's a miracle anyone ever gets pregnant.

e6: I got really high and assumed you needed everything explained in gamer terms. I apologize if this is condescending.

Turtlicious fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Nov 15, 2017

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Turtlicious posted:

e6: I got really high and assumed you needed everything explained in gamer terms. I apologize if this is condescending.

He didn't want an essay on the in-game physics engine, man, he just wanted to know how much the TLC season pass was going to set him back.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

see the pussy is like,...a raid boss

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
At current prices the baby DLC is ridiculous, something like $12,000. But think about how cool you'll look with your DLC item when the game finally comes out of alpha in 18 years!

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

purple death ray posted:

see the pussy is like,...a raid boss

I agree, if you're standing in the poo poo you'll wipe and have to start over.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Just don't jizz inside anybody bing bong problem solved

drat like do you wanna get pregnant or what. even BC is what like 99.8% effective? If you have sex 1000 times you'll get preggo twice. Too high!

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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


In the mouth is still cool right?

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