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MisterBibs posted:They don't even bring up the Klingon Jesus thing in DS9, do they? Several times. He is essentially reduced to powerless figurehead for Gowron. Poor guy.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Your own Songs of Ak’voh and Devotion
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Nov 15, 2017 03:21
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:But who is Bajoran Peter? Eddington? Kira, I would think.
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Nov 15, 2017 03:29
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skasion posted:Several times. He is essentially reduced to powerless figurehead for Gowron. Poor guy. If Jesus was cloned and brought back today, he would also become a powerless figurehead IMHO.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:25
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Mike the TV posted:If Jesus was cloned and brought back today, he would also become a powerless figurehead IMHO. He’d probably never get within a thousand miles of political power and be blown up by a predator drone because associating with It’s gotta suck even worse for Kaahless though, that dude was raised to believe that he was supposed to be the king pimp conqueror who would lead the empire to glory and instead he gets to sit there looking official while everyone else schemes over his head. Even in that episode where they find the real Kahless’ sword, nobody wants to give it to him because everyone knows he ain’t poo poo
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Nov 15, 2017 04:38
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skasion posted:He’d probably never get within a thousand miles of political power and be blown up by a predator drone because associating with Same as the first time, then.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:00
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Is House of Quark considered a Bad Ferengi Episode, or a Good Ferengi Episode? Because I am digging the poo poo out of the interactions between Ferengi and Klingon cultures. e:  a bunch of confused-as-poo poo Klingons in the Great Hall trying trying to read Quark's spreadsheets, this is gold.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:34
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MisterBibs posted:Is House of Quark considered a Bad Ferengi Episode, or a Good Ferengi Episode? Because I am digging the poo poo out of the interactions between Ferengi and Klingon cultures. Second best, behind The One With Iggy Pop.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:35
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The Cage is still pretty loving cool. Way ahead of it's time for 1966. Susan Oliver as an Orion slave girl. Holy poo poo.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:44
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oh poo poo, rear end in a top hat Klingon got wrist-and-twirled. Doubtful he'll get a fancy knife-blade-grabbing ceremony any time soon.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:45
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skasion posted:Star Trek Continues ended. Cute ending. I love that they worked in a dig at the TMP uniforms. I know, right? I never thought I'd ever give a poo poo about a fan series, but that was some good poo poo.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:56
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MisterBibs posted:Is House of Quark considered a Bad Ferengi Episode, or a Good Ferengi Episode? Because I am digging the poo poo out of the interactions between Ferengi and Klingon cultures.
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Nov 15, 2017 05:58
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Cythereal posted:Badda-Bing Badda-Bing I don't care what anybody thinks but Badda Bing is worth it for the music alone. You get a club remix of the main theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-QBe9pPdkM and then that one, you know what one I'm talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hPrxYRzuAg
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Nov 15, 2017 06:39
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I watched the final episode of Continues earlier tonight. It was great and I enjoyed the little nods to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. I wish they had developed Continues into an ongoing series (dunno if this would have been possible or feasible) instead of doing Discovery; I really liked this series. My one minor nitpick is that I've always had mixed feelings about the original Enterprise having the ability to detach the saucer section. My personal head canon is that this was a new feature in Galaxy-class starships - especially since this is the only time in the TOS timeframe that something like this was ever done (at least as far as we know). But this isn't a big deal. The episode was very well done and was finally a proper send-off for TOS (almost fifty years after the fact).
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Nov 15, 2017 06:46
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MisterBibs posted:They don't even bring up the Klingon Jesus thing in DS9, do they? At least once. Edit: missed that there was still another page. I am without honor Beachcomber fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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Nov 15, 2017 07:15
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I made gagh. You want some gagh? Have some gagh. You look dishonored, you should eat. I'm quoting this because it deserves to be on two pages. Also aren't the Rozhenkos ethnically Jewish Russians? Or did they not make that explicit anywhere?
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Nov 15, 2017 07:17
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tango alpha delta posted:The Cage is still pretty loving cool. Way ahead of it's time for 1966. Susan Oliver as an Orion slave girl. Holy poo poo. 
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Nov 15, 2017 08:50
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Pike was the original rear end in a top hat captain, thinking of loving off to deal in slave women (?!) because he was tired of ordering people to their deaths and choking alien motherfuckers out while asking "is your blood red like ours? I wanna find out!"
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Tighclops posted:Pike was the original rear end in a top hat captain, thinking of loving off to deal in slave women (?!) because he was tired of ordering people to their deaths and choking alien motherfuckers out while asking "is your blood red like ours? I wanna find out!" The edgiest a non-noir 1960s hero could get.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I watched the final episode of Continues earlier tonight. It was great and I enjoyed the little nods to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. I wish they had developed Continues into an ongoing series (dunno if this would have been possible or feasible) instead of doing Discovery; I really liked this series. I think it was discussed and considered repeatedly during the original series, but they didn't want to cut up the model. It DID happen in the comics, and of course to the film's Enterprise-without-letters. The TNG tech guide also says they built computer models about a saucer landing based on the three times it DID happen...
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Nov 15, 2017 11:51
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8one6 posted:Also aren't the Rozhenkos ethnically Jewish Russians? Or did they not make that explicit anywhere? I'm not sure, but the guy who played Mr. Rozhenko also played Ivanova's rabbi on Babylon 5, so it's implied a bit 
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Nov 15, 2017 11:56
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8one6 posted:Also aren't the Rozhenkos ethnically Jewish Russians? Or did they not make that explicit anywhere? Nessus posted:Regarding the matter you spoilered:
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Nov 15, 2017 19:06
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Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges I still don't care for Section 31, but while this episode directly follows from In the Pale Moonlight and Inquisition, I like it more than either of them. Maybe because it's more cerebral than those episodes, more reserved rather than going for shock value or emotional sucker punches.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:48
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Marshal Radisic posted:I thought they were Belarusians, but I don't believe their faith was ever explicitly named. They were from Minsk, so you’re right. If I recall there was discussion among the writers when they filmed TNG’s “Family” about making them Jewish but they ultimately didn’t do it. I’ve always thought it was kind of sad that despite TOS having two Jewish lead actors there has never been a Jewish character in the entire franchise. Worf as a Klingon Jew would have been quite cool.
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Barlow posted:They were from Minsk, so you’re right. If I recall there was discussion among the writers when they filmed TNG’s “Family” about making them Jewish but they ultimately didn’t do it. I’ve always thought it was kind of sad that despite TOS having two Jewish lead actors there has never been a Jewish character in the entire franchise. Worf as a Klingon Jew would have been quite cool. "You are uncircumcised, gentile, you are WITHOUT honor!"
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QaplOY!
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CPColin posted:QaplOY! 
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:My one minor nitpick is that I've always had mixed feelings about the original Enterprise having the ability to detach the saucer section. My personal head canon is that this was a new feature in Galaxy-class starships - especially since this is the only time in the TOS timeframe that something like this was ever done (at least as far as we know). But this isn't a big deal. The episode was very well done and was finally a proper send-off for TOS (almost fifty years after the fact). This was always a part of the Jeffries design, since he wanted to communicate that the engine assembly was powerful and dangerous and kept as far from the living spaces as possible.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I watched the final episode of Continues earlier tonight. It was great and I enjoyed the little nods to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. I wish they had developed Continues into an ongoing series (dunno if this would have been possible or feasible) instead of doing Discovery; I really liked this series. Unfeasible due to a number of legal factors (acquiring fan material and then officially producing it is messy), but, oh, Jesus, that would have been beyond delicious, because Alec Peters' original goal was to have CBS buy Axanar from him so he'd be an official Trek producer.
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Worfs parents are absolutely Jews in my head canon regardless of what the show says or doesn't say
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Penumbra gently caress off, Worf. You tend to be a lovely character and Sisko should have remembered that "No sending Worf and Dax on a mission together" rule and carried it over to Ezri. Calling Jadzia a whore in Klingon does not help your case. DS9 may have handled Worf much better than TNG did, but I remain convinced that bringing him to DS9 was ultimately to the show's detriment.
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"I cannot defeat him, I can only kill him" redeems 100% of Worf's previous crapitude
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Thanks for the background on saucer separation. I didn't realize it was in Jeffries' original plans. I liked those scenes; they were well done, and they added continuity between TOS and TNG, since Picard ordered a saucer separation in Encounter At Farpoint.
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Nov 16, 2017 01:24
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Are you spoiling 50 year old production notes?
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Nov 16, 2017 01:32
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Arglebargle III posted:Are you spoiling 50 year old production notes? Hey, someone might be looking forward to Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise. 
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Nov 16, 2017 01:40
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Arglebargle III posted:Are you spoiling 50 year old production notes? I'm spoiling details related to Continues' final episode, for the benefit of people who might want to watch.
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Cythereal posted:but I remain convinced that bringing him to DS9 was ultimately to the show's detriment. Bringing him probably kept the show from getting canceled, so...
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Nov 16, 2017 02:57
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Cythereal it's opines like that why I don't read your write ups.
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Gene Coon>Gene Roddenberry.
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Timby posted:Bringing him probably kept the show from getting canceled, so... Yeah, according to The 50 Year Mission, bringing Worf in was an attempt to get the TNG audience that peaced out.
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