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Maxing shotgun and upgrading combat focus and eventually psychoshock will do you right.
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Also upgrading the pistol damage. The pistol does not feel powerful but can murder the poo poo out of things because of the high rate of fire.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Also upgrading the pistol damage. The pistol does not feel powerful but can murder the poo poo out of things because of the high rate of fire. Getting the golden gun and working on the range of the pistol as well as the ambush damage neuromod turns the pistol into a pretty good likeness of a sniper rifle.
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So I think I might have broken some event triggers on my human-upgrades-only, everyone-dies-except-Dahl run. I just left the cargo bays for life support, and a few minutes later got a message from January talking about how she's proud I helped the survivors in the cargo bay and gave them hope, even if it's only for a little while. The problem is, it didn't go down like that -- I set up the turrets to get the code to the door, then shut off all the turrets, opened the door, and walked away as phantoms slaughtered everyone. I deliberately sabotaged their defences to ensure that they would all die. Now I'm wondering if this means the endgame will come to the wrong conclusions about this as well. Wolfsheim posted:Hey gang I just started playing this in the last few days and its very good so far but I'm pretty bad at it! Some questions: EMP grenades and/or the stungun will temporarily stun the Technopath and completely gently caress up the turrets/operators it's controlling. The stungun, in particular, is ridiculously good once upgraded. There are also a bunch of psi abilities that are good against technopaths -- Machine Mind will let you steal its minions, and Electrostatic Burst is an at-will EMP grenade that also does loads of damage -- but if you just reached the Arboretum you probably don't have those yet. quote:-For combat prowess, should I max the wrench or keep buffing the shotgun like I've been doing? Shotgun is great for up close and personal work, but damage drops off fast with range. It synergizes well with the stungun, since this lets you stun the enemy, run right up to its face, and open fire; and since it's stunned it'll take bonus damage. This combo will one-shot a Weaver with an upgraded shotgun. Wrench isn't worth it past the early game unless you're feeling nostalgic; even on Impossible ammo is plentiful enough not to worry about.
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to get that achievement/ending, you need to actively kill npcs. NOT let them be killed by environmental hazards/typhon.
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double nine posted:to get that achievement/ending, you need to actively kill npcs. NOT let them be killed by environmental hazards/typhon. You don't need to kill everyone to trigger the event but you do for that particular achievement.
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Nov 9, 2017 18:05
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Jibo posted:You don't need to kill everyone to trigger the event but you do for that particular achievement. Does that mean I can't just blow up the station with everyone on it then?
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Whew! Thanks for the advice guys, I just beat this today although for whatever reason I still found technopaths and telepaths to be the hardest, damage-spongiest enemies in the game, even after I reached a point where I was clowning on nightmares with ease. This may have been because I didn't use any typhon powers; not intentionally at first, but I put so many points into repair, hacking and becoming a silent shotgun assassin that by the time I was done the game was 3/4ths over so I thought eh, might as well push ahead for a purely good-guy human playthrough (heh). The idea of being a psychic flying banana sounds amazing though, and I'll definitely go that route next time. It'll probably be awhile because the combat really is a chore after a while that you just deal with so you can get on with exploring and hoarding junk. I also never found a Q-beam, I was that guy! Whoops! Despite reviews calling this a buggy, laggy mess I only had one seemingly egregious bug in the second half; in the trauma center, I thought Luther Glass was dead when I looted it early on and left him there. Later he called me in a panic asking for help from swarms of typhon, but this was just after Dahl had arrived, so there were no typhon but instead 6-7 military operators all hanging out near his area. I tried to fight them but the machine would just spawn more, and it was so ridiculous I just left to try and shut down Kaspar instead (and then got sidetracked into saving the cargo bay team, etc etc) and the mission failed and I assumed they'd gotten to him. When I get back instead of a corpse there is now an extra military operator named Luther Glass. I killed it and there was nothing otherwise special about it, but I can only assume he was supposed to be a phantom or something. Anyone else experience this? Also, if I'd dragged his body up to my office would I have circumvented that quest altogether? Regarding the ending: I get that it's a simulation, but does it tell you what the deal is regarding the original Morgan? I assume she died during the real typhon outbreak that went down similarly and that, instead of destroying the station, she opted for Alex's solution which caused the mess on earth. Am i close or was there ever a real Morgan? And were those other operators supposed to be 'real' people too, or at least loaded with the memories of them? Since all the AIs in the game are based on a pre-existing person's personality/memories it would make sense but honestly it was kinda unclear. Too bad this game isn't getting any DLC, I would love to see where they'd go from where they leave it.
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Wolfsheim posted:I thought Luther Glass was dead when I looted it early on and left him there. Later he called me in a panic asking for help from swarms of typhon, but this was just after Dahl had arrived, so there were no typhon but instead 6-7 military operators all hanging out near his area. I tried to fight them but the machine would just spawn more, and it was so ridiculous I just left to try and shut down Kaspar instead (and then got sidetracked into saving the cargo bay team, etc etc) and the mission failed and I assumed they'd gotten to him. When I get back instead of a corpse there is now an extra military operator named Luther Glass. I killed it and there was nothing otherwise special about it, but I can only assume he was supposed to be a phantom or something. Anyone else experience this? Also, if I'd dragged his body up to my office would I have circumvented that quest altogether? Check the finished quest in your quest log 
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Wolfsheim posted:Too bad this game isn't getting any DLC, I would love to see where they'd go from where they leave it. Word was that DLC was planned, but nobody has heard much. It's from Arkane so it might turn out like Dishonored/2 where the DLC just comes out a long time after release, or it might be that the game didn't sell well enough and Zenimax pushed the abort button.
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Nov 12, 2017 05:18
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Mr. Vile posted:Check the finished quest in your quest log Wow I'm dumb! That's kind of great, though the Wahl section is probably the low point of the game just because of how until fighting operators is.
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Nov 12, 2017 06:15
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Wolfsheim posted:Regarding the ending: I get that it's a simulation, but does it tell you what the deal is regarding the original Morgan? I assume she died during the real typhon outbreak that went down similarly and that, instead of destroying the station, she opted for Alex's solution which caused the mess on earth. Am i close or was there ever a real Morgan? And were those other operators supposed to be 'real' people too, or at least loaded with the memories of them? Since all the AIs in the game are based on a pre-existing person's personality/memories it would make sense but honestly it was kinda unclear. There was a real Morgan going through a real outbreak; the simulation is based on the real Morgan's memories. It's unclear what happened to the original Morgan, good or bad It's unclear which option the real Morgan went with; even if the station was blown up, there's still that shuttle full of people who launched mid-outbreak, which could be full of mimics, and any number of other scenarios where the typhon wind up on Earth It's unclear whether the operators at the end are just based on real people or if there are real people remotely controlling them, with Alex being the only one crazy enough to stand in the same room as a typhon
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Wolfsheim posted:Whew! Thanks for the advice guys, I just beat this today although for whatever reason I still found technopaths and telepaths to be the hardest, damage-spongiest enemies in the game, even after I reached a point where I was clowning on nightmares with ease. Wolfsheim posted:Wow I'm dumb! That's kind of great, though the Wahl section is probably the low point of the game just because of how until fighting operators is. Stungun. Stungun stungun stungun. Upgrade it and it'll one- or two-shot operators (while also disabling them if the first shot doesn't kill them), stun telepaths for ages, and stun and damage technopaths (in addition to completely loving up their pet turrets and operators). And once stunned they take extra damage.  I ignored the stungun on my first playthrough because it's so awful when you first get it, and once I had typhon powers, why bother? But upgrade it (focus on charge speed and stun duration first, then range and ammo efficiency) and it becomes a total beast.
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Nov 12, 2017 12:35
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No DLC for this game is a loving crime.
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Nov 14, 2017 15:19
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i just bought this and it is a Good Game. i wish it had DLC.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:18
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With Colantonio out of Arkane, I think we'll be lucky to get any more games like Dishonored or Prey from them at all, let alone DLC.
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Nov 15, 2017 04:57
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I played the game in a very boring way the first time through - all human abilities and just destroyed everything with shotgun + combat focus. Need to try it again and be more creative. I never even used a recycler grenade! Are there any fun, gimmicky LPs that people have found?
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aniviron posted:With Colantonio out of Arkane, I think we'll be lucky to get any more games like Dishonored or Prey from them at all, let alone DLC. That's... worrying. Where've they gone?
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Aww, do we have confirmation that there's going to be no dlc?
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A Sometimes Food posted:That's... worrying. A few weeks after we learned that Prey had not sold well, he announced that he was leaving to "spend more time with his family." Which is often but not always corporate speak for being forced out of a position.
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Could I get a hint as to how to read the abbreviations on the treasure maps? I only found one on complete accident right after grabbing the piece.
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Nomadic Scholar posted:Could I get a hint as to how to read the abbreviations on the treasure maps? I only found one on complete accident right after grabbing the piece. They each line up to some level on the ingame map. Usually there's a label that mentions the sublevel or something..
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Nomadic Scholar posted:Could I get a hint as to how to read the abbreviations on the treasure maps? I only found one on complete accident right after grabbing the piece. I may be wrong but I don't think those refer to anything besides the floor of the area they'll be found in. You'll still need to check for the floor pattern yourself.
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aniviron posted:A few weeks after we learned that Prey had not sold well, he announced that he was leaving to "spend more time with his family." Which is often but not always corporate speak for being forced out of a position. this is filling me with trepidation. all the dishonoured poo poo and prey have been really loving good, and i don't want them to stop.
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Nomadic Scholar posted:Could I get a hint as to how to read the abbreviations on the treasure maps? I only found one on complete accident right after grabbing the piece. most of them have symbols on them that match the sign next to the door leading to that area
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like everyone else said, it's just vague descriptions, I found a couple randomly, then saw a number on the 2nd floor from my location on the first floor, but I used a guide for the rest. so, yeah, I have nothing to contribute. hope you enjoyed~~~
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The reward for doing all that nonsense is pathetic anyway, so don't worry if you decide to skip it.
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Vakal posted:The reward for doing all that nonsense is pathetic anyway, so don't worry if you decide to skip it. The reward is fantastic, especially if you do it as early as possible. Just don't cheat for the code. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Nov 19, 2017 |
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Neurosis posted:this is filling me with trepidation. all the dishonoured poo poo and prey have been really loving good, and i don't want them to stop. Same.
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I'm not sure who would step up and make games like Prey and Dishonored anymore if Arkane were shut down or forced to change direction. Eidos has been all but killed off by Squeenix, we'll be lucky if it's only another decade before the next Deus Ex comes out. I'll wind up playing the System Shock remake and SS3, but honestly one is a remake and the other... Warren Spector hasn't made anything good for over a decade, so I'm not convinced. Arkane has the best level designers in the industry and not many genres let them show off their skill as well as ImmSimms; it'd be a shame to lose this.
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The sad part is that this game would probably have sold three times as many copies or more if they could have only gotten the rights to call it "System Shock 3". I know that was probably never an option, but anything else they could have called it would have been better than "Prey".
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What's going on with that new system shock game? Have we got any gameplay video for it yet?
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MikeJF posted:The reward is fantastic, especially if you do it as early as possible. Just don't cheat for the code. "As early as possible" is at the very end of the game, though, since you can't get the last map until Deep Storage and you can't get back to Crew Quarters until after you reset the power.  GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:What's going on with that new system shock game? Have we got any gameplay video for it yet? I've been deliberately avoiding information, since both SSR and SS3 are going to be in development for a while longer yet and I'll just drive myself insane otherwise, but IIRC a new dev video for SSR was released recently. Not sure about SS3. Vakal posted:The sad part is that this game would probably have sold three times as many copies or more if they could have only gotten the rights to call it "System Shock 3". Yeah. 
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Prey is one of the few games that has come out in the past few years I have enjoyed, its hilarious that it performed terribly as a product despite being such a stellar game. I hope to see him bounce around some more studios now that he's left Arcane before landing a new spot making games elsewhere where he isn't treated like capital.
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i really don't think that calling it 'system shock 3' would have made it sell as well as you're expecting because the average person who played ss is old and the average ss2 player is still probably not young. that being said, why the gently caress would you call it 'prey' of all things? who even played the original prey or liked it?
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They should have called it Psychoshock.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:that being said, why the gently caress would you call it 'prey' of all things? who even played the original prey or liked it? Me on both counts. Was initially confused what it had to do with the other prey. It's a difficult sit sometimes as it's a grim loving game but it's a novel shooter.
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HELLBITCH posted:Prey is one of the few games that has come out in the past few years I have enjoyed, its hilarious that it performed terribly as a product despite being such a stellar game. This is pretty much every single game Looking Glass ever released, so Arkane is following in LGS's footsteps in more ways than one.  turn off the TV posted:They should have called it Psychoshock. For me at least, Bioshock leaned so heavily on "look, it has Shock in the name" and was such a disappointment in the end that I think this would have actually have turned me off. As it is I picked it up not really expecting anything beyond "it's Arkane so it'll probably be alright" and was very pleasantly surprised to discover that they'd gotten bored of !Thief and turned their hand to !System Shock.
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I'm playing this game again over thanksgiving break and I was thinking of finally completing a no needles run and just avoiding typhon as much as possible. I can't remember but is there a thing that affects the ending if you minimize typhon kills? If so what is it? Also, do typhon dying from the environment, like fire or toxic gas count as me killing them or affect that low typhon death count?
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