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Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!




Wheat Loaf posted:

Ted Nugent had a song called "Jailbait".

This should be all I need to say, but here's the lyrics for the last verse:


Oh dear.

Considering how detestable his politics are, it should come as no surprise that his music is too.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Zamboni_Rodeo posted:

Considering how detestable his politics are, it should come as no surprise that his music is too.

Obligatory story about Ted Nugent earned his reputation as a staunch advocate for patriotic duty:

(tl;dr - he shat in his pants to get out of Nam because only stupid hippies should be drafted)

quote:

Interviewer: How did you get out of the draft?

Ted Nugent: Ted was a young boy, appearing to be a hippie but quite opposite in fact, working hard and playing hard, playing rock and roll like a deviant. People would question my sanity, I played so much. So I got my notice to be in the draft. Do you think I was gonna lay down my guitar and go play army? Give me a break! I was busy doin’ it to it. I had a career Jack. If I was walkin’ around, hippying down, getting’ loaded and pickin’ my rear end like your common curs, I’d say “Hey yeah, go in the army. Beats the poop out of scuffin’ around in the gutters.” But I wasn’t a gutter dog. I was a hard workin’, mother****in’ rock and roll musician.

I got my physical notice 30 days prior to. Well, on that day I ceased cleansing my body. No more brushing my teeth, no more washing my hair, no baths, no soap, no water. Thirty days of debris build. I stopped shavin’ and I was 18, had a little scraggly beard, really looked like a hippie. I had long hair, and it started gettin’ kinky, matted up. Then two weeks before, I stopped eating any food with nutritional value. I just had chips, Pepsi, beer-stuff I never touched-buttered poop, little jars of Polish sausages, and I’d drink the syrup, I was this side of death, Then a week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. poop, piss the whole shot. My pants got crusted up.

See, I approached the whole thing like, Ted Nugent, cool hard-workin’ dude, is gonna wreak havoc on these imbeciles in the armed forces. I’m gonna play their own game, and I’m gonna destroy ’em. Now my whole body is crusted in poop and piss. I was ill. And three or four days before, I started stayin’ awake. I was close to death, but I was in control. I was extremely antidrug as I’ve always been, but I snorted some crystal methedrine. Talk about one wounded motherf*cker. A guy put up four lines, and it was for all four of us, but I didn’t know and I’m vacuuming that poop right up. I was a walking, talking hunk of human poop. I was six-foot-three of sin. So the guys took me down to the physical, and my nerves, my emotions were distraught. I was not a good person. I was wounded. But as painful and nauseous as it was — ’cause I was really into bein’ clean and on the ball — I made gutter swine hippies look like football players. I was deviano.

So I went in, and those guys in uniform couldn’t believe the smell. They were ridiculin’ me and pushin’ me around and I was cryin’, but all the time I was laughin’ to myself. When they stuck the needle in my arm for the blood test I passed out, and when I came to they were kicking me into the wall. Then they made everybody take off their pants, and I did, and this sergeant says, “Oh my God, put those back on! You f*cking swine you!” Then they had a urine test and I couldn’t piss, But my poop was just like ooze, man, so I poop in the cup and put it on the counter. I had poop on my hand and my arm. The guy almost puked. I was so proud. I knew I had these chumps beat. The last thing I remember was wakin’ up in the ear test booth and they were sweepin’ up. So I went home and cleaned up.

They took a putty knife to me. I got the street rats out of my hair, ate some good steaks, beans, potatoes, cottage cheese, milk. A couple of days and I was ready to kick rear end. And in the mail I got this big juicy 4-F. They’d call dead people before they’d call my rear end. But you know the funny thing about it? I’d make an incredible army man. I’d be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and I’d have the baddest bunch of motherf*ckin’ killers you’d ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasn’t into it. I was too busy doin’ my own thing, you know?

Double Live Gonzo is still great fun, though.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Wheat Loaf posted:

Obligatory story about Ted Nugent earned his reputation as a staunch advocate for patriotic duty:

(tl;dr - he shat in his pants to get out of Nam because only stupid hippies should be drafted)
Did he think that story made him sound cool? :stare:

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Wheat Loaf posted:

Obligatory story about Ted Nugent earned his reputation as a staunch advocate for patriotic duty:

(tl;dr - he shat in his pants to get out of Nam because only stupid hippies should be drafted)


Double Live Gonzo is still great fun, though.

but are troops right?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Last Chance posted:

I was watching the Season 6 Christmas episode of The Office, and Michael demeaningly refers to Phyllis-dressed-as-Santa as "Tranny Clause"

If this was made today, Michael Scott would still say that.

He's dumb.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Nugent also dated/courted a girl when she was 17.

quote:

See, in 1978, Nugent wanted to shack up with a 17-year-old whom we can probably assume knew all the words to "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang." Problem was, he was 30, and she wasn't quite old enough to marry. Now, far be it from Ted to be living in sin with a teenager, so he did the proper thing. With her parents' (unbelievable) consent, he went ahead and became her legal guardian. He adopted her.

http://www.houstonpress.com/music/the-five-most-repellent-things-ted-nugent-has-ever-done-6756533

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

CelticPredator posted:

If this was made today, Michael Scott would still say that.

He's dumb.

Yeah, maybe. But it was said with a lot of malice and anger. Not in a Michael-is-a-goofy-socially-unaware-dork way

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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Mods, name change to Wang Dang Sweet Poontang

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Tiggum posted:

Did he think that story made him sound cool? :stare:

The best part is that after all of that he still goes all "but I'd have totally been the best soldier ever" at the end.

Grillfiend
Nov 29, 2015

Belgians ITT
(ie Me)


oldpainless posted:

Mods, name change to Wang Dang Sweet Poontang

more like oldchangeless

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

CommonShore posted:

This leads me to c). Have you noticed that a ridiculous percentage rock music is about teenage angst and/or being a rock star, often on the road? Well that's because many of the people who write it have no life experience other than being an angsty teenager, and they spend lots of time being a musician on the road, often dreaming about stardom.

Bright Eyes was my favorite band for a while in high school so I'm aware

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Jesus, I heard he shat himself to dodge the draft but I always assumed he did it once during the physical examination and just claimed to have chronically loose bowels. That would be disgusting enough but what he actually did is some Salo or the 120 Days of Sodom level poo poo.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Coming from a country which still has active draft for all male population; if you want to have the "they'll call the dead before they draft me"-papers, you really need to commit to being a loving lunatic at the draft examinations.

They also have a number of people specially trained for seeing thru the acts and pinpointing the actually crazy ones.

Saying that you poo poo yourself constantly just puts you into the artillery regiment.

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

...because making GBS threads yourself is actually an advantage in that field, or just to screw them over for attempting to draft dodge?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Last Chance posted:

Yeah, maybe. But it was said with a lot of malice and anger. Not in a Michael-is-a-goofy-socially-unaware-dork way

Because he was mad at Phylis for being Santa. Because he's kind of a man child who pouts and insults everyone if he doesn't get his way.

It wasn't "trans people are gross" it was gently caress you for doing what I wanted to do.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Der Kyhe posted:

Coming from a country which still has active draft for all male population; if you want to have the "they'll call the dead before they draft me"-papers, you really need to commit to being a loving lunatic at the draft examinations.

They also have a number of people specially trained for seeing thru the acts and pinpointing the actually crazy ones.

Saying that you poo poo yourself constantly just puts you into the artillery regiment.

Or claim to have 'bone spurs'

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

CelticPredator posted:

Because he was mad at Phylis for being Santa. Because he's kind of a man child who pouts and insults everyone if he doesn't get his way.

It wasn't "trans people are gross" it was gently caress you for doing what I wanted to do.

No it might have also been that thing you said but it is definitely also "trans people are gross"

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Rangpur posted:

...because making GBS threads yourself is actually an advantage in that field, or just to screw them over for attempting to draft dodge?

Because of the attempt, and because the "not so bright, not physically very capable" are all sent to the artillery (or supply but artillery is generally considered the shittier job). Smart ones go to the com-ops, tech or engineering, physically fit to the various areas of infantry and armored. Smart and fit go the the special forces or "counter action groups".

Insane but in a positive way are sent to become part of the pioneer corps.

EDIT: Air Force and Navy may have different flavors but I have no idea on those, I was assigned to the Army pool.

Der Kyhe has a new favorite as of 20:34 on Nov 15, 2017

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Yeah, in a mandatory draft system, I could see "shits himself regularly" to be read as "won't leave his post to go to the bathroom" and get put on some watch duty or something.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

CelticPredator posted:

Because he was mad at Phylis for being Santa. Because he's kind of a man child who pouts and insults everyone if he doesn't get his way.

It wasn't "trans people are gross" it was gently caress you for doing what I wanted to do.

Whatever, it still hasn't aged well

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Der Kyhe posted:

Because of the attempt, and because the "not so bright, not physically very capable" are all sent to the artillery (or supply but artillery is generally considered the shittier job). Smart ones go to the com-ops, tech or engineering, physically fit to the various areas of infantry and armored. Smart and fit go the the special forces or "counter action groups".

Insane but in a positive way are sent to become part of the pioneer corps.

EDIT: Air Force and Navy may have different flavors but I have no idea on those, I was assigned to the Army pool.

it seems like a bad idea to put the dumb people in the job involving figuring out how to aim a big gun so that you hit the enemy and not anybody else

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

Detective No. 27 posted:

Steel Panther is all too self-aware about that.
Steely Dan too. (I like Steely Dan)

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light
Phil? Mike? Tony? What were you guys thinking?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61hzuGGJX0

And what's the deal with the clothespins?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
I work in a chain grocery store and they regularly play "There She Goes" by the La's and I always take amusement in telling younger employees what the song is about.

Another example of this sort of obliviousness is the old cruise ads that had Lust for Life by Iggy Pop as the music.

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
Political ads unironically using "Born in the USA"

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I work in a chain grocery store and they regularly play "There She Goes" by the La's and I always take amusement in telling younger employees what the song is about.

You'll be disappointed to learn that the song predates the band's use of heroin and that they deny that rumor flat-out and have for years.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Besesoth posted:

You'll be disappointed to learn that the song predates the band's use of heroin and that they deny that rumor flat-out and have for years.

The lyrics tell me that they're full of poo poo. I mean, Dave Grohl used to deny "I'll Stick Around" was about Courtney Love, then eventually just said "Read the lyrics!".

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I was watching some YouTube docs about 70's TV shows last night and found myself wondering about which ones that featured a black or a minority cast aged the best. There was Good Times, which was OK for about a year and half. The Jeffersons which was never great but never really horrible. What's Happening which was...pretty bad I think. Sanford and Son hasn't aged that well but Red Foxx was pretty great. Chico and the Man is the only show I can think of that had a lead hispanic character.

I grew up with these shows and to some extent was all I really knew about non white people beyond the kids I went to school with. The 70's, and Norman Lear in particular, I think deserve a lot of credit for some of the things they tried to do and on occasion accomplished. In a lot of ways the shows back then were more brave and daring than what we have now.

Apropos of nothing but it always annoyed me that a show called "What's Happening!" used an exclamation point instead of a question mark.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Eh, some of Sanford and Son can be real funny still. it's like half and half. Sometimes that's definitely a show where it's a product of its times. One time I was watching an episode and Lamont told his dad he was going out with his friends because there was a new x-rated movie they wanted to catch. Like, man, that must have been so weird to live in the brief window when porn chic was a thing. Like, I'm aware it was, but it's still so strange to see and hear stuff from that time.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Der Kyhe posted:

Because of the attempt, and because the "not so bright, not physically very capable" are all sent to the artillery (or supply but artillery is generally considered the shittier job). Smart ones go to the com-ops, tech or engineering, physically fit to the various areas of infantry and armored. Smart and fit go the the special forces or "counter action groups".

Insane but in a positive way are sent to become part of the pioneer corps.


What's pioneer in this context? Combat engineer?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Jazerus posted:

it seems like a bad idea to put the dumb people in the job involving figuring out how to aim a big gun so that you hit the enemy and not anybody else

I don't know, my dad was artillery and he was pretty stupid.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Milo and POTUS posted:

What's pioneer in this context? Combat engineer?

My buddy is/was a Sapper and he's crazy and in good shape, so your theory checks out.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Choco1980 posted:

One time I was watching an episode and Lamont told his dad he was going out with his friends because there was a new x-rated movie they wanted to catch. Like, man, that must have been so weird to live in the brief window when porn chic was a thing. Like, I'm aware it was, but it's still so strange to see and hear stuff from that time.

I still think we had porn chic in more recent years, but that's probably thanks to the internet. Compared to the 80s and early 90s, there's a different sense of acceptance, or it feels like, at least.

There were those handful of attempts in the 90s to make NC-17 a real legitimate rating for films but almost nothing ever came of it but some fringe movies and a lot of R-rated cuts until eventually the home video market just figured they could get away with Unrated editions.

There was also the late 90s/early 00s where there seemed to be a porn empowerment era. The media was talking about how women were influential in the porn industry as producers and consumers and not just performers, how a handful of performers had their own media empires, and so on.

Dr. Video Games 0081
Jan 19, 2005

Choco1980 posted:

Eh, some of Sanford and Son can be real funny still. it's like half and half. Sometimes that's definitely a show where it's a product of its times. One time I was watching an episode and Lamont told his dad he was going out with his friends because there was a new x-rated movie they wanted to catch. Like, man, that must have been so weird to live in the brief window when porn chic was a thing. Like, I'm aware it was, but it's still so strange to see and hear stuff from that time.

Maybe it was just Beyond the Valley of the Dolls

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Don't forget, Midnight Cowboy was rated X and won an Oscar for Best Picture. X didn't always mean porn then, although that Sanford And Son probably meant that.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Nah, you guys don't realize how crazy it got. There was a period where Hollywood films were tanking in the seventies (this was before Jaws changed the entire system, basically inventing the Summer Blockbuster). And then suddenly porn with plot came along, different from the bland stuff hollywood was doing, and it sold like gangbusters. Deep Throat was just this mindblowing success, where a porn literally became the #1 movie in America for a minute. There were all kinds of weird porn films to come out of this fad. It didn't last long, but it definitely made an impact.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Choco1980 posted:

Nah, you guys don't realize how crazy it got. There was a period where Hollywood films were tanking in the seventies (this was before Jaws changed the entire system, basically inventing the Summer Blockbuster). And then suddenly porn with plot came along, different from the bland stuff hollywood was doing, and it sold like gangbusters. Deep Throat was just this mindblowing success, where a porn literally became the #1 movie in America for a minute. There were all kinds of weird porn films to come out of this fad. It didn't last long, but it definitely made an impact.

Is this were all those weird sexploitation movies and stuff came from?

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
Rocky Horror, Terminator 2 and 3 and Army of Darkness I thought were all rated R at the time of release, but if they'd been released since at various times in the last 10-15 years or so, they'd likely be considered PG-13 affairs.

At the very least, the studios would have gone in and cut or edit every single bit that gave them the R-rating to bring it down to a PG-13.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Choco1980 posted:

There were all kinds of weird porn films to come out of this fad. It didn't last long, but it definitely made an impact.

Indeed.

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Lazlo Nibble
Jan 9, 2004

It was Weasleby, by God! At last I had the miserable blighter precisely where I wanted him!

Solice Kirsk posted:

Is this were all those weird sexploitation movies and stuff came from?
The whole Russ Meyer/Something Weird Video-type sexploitation scene (which I think is what you're referring to) was already going strong years before the Deep Throat/Behind the Green Door era kicked in.

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