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BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.
I liked the headstock shape until I noticed A.) it's flamed maple B.) the top edge is a slant rather than a straight line. gently caress that.

The pickup layout is baffling, although maybe that's just me being vanilla (I like Ps and Js and PJs.)

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Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
if it can't be done with a P or a J it ain't worth doing

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Anime Reference posted:

I liked the headstock shape until I noticed A.) it's flamed maple B.) the top edge is a slant rather than a straight line. gently caress that.

The pickup layout is baffling, although maybe that's just me being vanilla (I like Ps and Js and PJs.)

Because the pickups are stereo out (I assume for bi-amping) is why two of them are next to each like that I guess.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Basses are almost universally ugly. :shrug:

Wrong.


So here's a question: do I buy a hybrid Shen that I've already played in person, know I really like it just as it sits, that I can just drive over the bridge and pick it up from a local bass specialist who I can rely on for support, OR do I order an equivalent Upton Standard Hybrid that I've never laid hands on, have to ship it across the length of the country, will take six months to get, might arrive with a setup that needs tweaking BUT is the bass I've been planning on getting and is made in the USA instead of China (which is something I do care about when I'm spending thousands of dollars on something.)

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Wrong.


So here's a question: do I buy a hybrid Shen that I've already played in person, know I really like it just as it sits, that I can just drive over the bridge and pick it up from a local bass specialist who I can rely on for support, OR do I order an equivalent Upton Standard Hybrid that I've never laid hands on, have to ship it across the length of the country, will take six months to get, might arrive with a setup that needs tweaking BUT is the bass I've been planning on getting and is made in the USA instead of China (which is something I do care about when I'm spending thousands of dollars on something.)

What's the price difference?

Your local guy will also be able to support the Upton. You might not get a "deal" on maintenance, but unless you get some sort of support contract with the Shen it'll likely be the same.

Rifter17
Mar 12, 2004
123 Not It

pumped up for school posted:

Yeah someone sent me that this morning. $2500 sounds like a bargain. Buy two.



It looks like Schecter made a metal version of an Alembic Orion bass.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

The Science Goy posted:

What's the price difference?

Your local guy will also be able to support the Upton. You might not get a "deal" on maintenance, but unless you get some sort of support contract with the Shen it'll likely be the same.

Upton shipped is $400 more than the Shen hybrid with the flamed sides and $1000 more than the plain one.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Dyna Soar posted:

i disagree, classic fender and gibson models are mostly nice.

Yeah my thunderbird is a beaut, I find the poster's opinion to be bad.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Upton shipped is $400 more than the Shen hybrid with the flamed sides and $1000 more than the plain one.

That's not bad.

My view: if you get the Shen, you'll like it but there will always be that little nagging voice. What if I got the Upton? Would it have more responsiveness in thumb? Would it sing a little bit better on note decay? Would it stay in tune better during humidity changes? Would it be less sensitive to feedback when amplified?

Any little thing that isn't perfect on the Shen, you'll wonder if the Upton would do it better.

*goes back to his janky plywood upright*

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Wrong.


So here's a question: do I buy a hybrid Shen that I've already played in person, know I really like it just as it sits, that I can just drive over the bridge and pick it up from a local bass specialist who I can rely on for support, OR do I order an equivalent Upton Standard Hybrid that I've never laid hands on, have to ship it across the length of the country, will take six months to get, might arrive with a setup that needs tweaking BUT is the bass I've been planning on getting and is made in the USA instead of China (which is something I do care about when I'm spending thousands of dollars on something.)

What's up same-boat-buddy? :hfive:

I had to put mine on hold briefly for some adulting (paying my car off is ultimately more important than getting the bass sooner).

Basically I came down to this reasoning, and you can ultimately call it sappy altruistic bullshit... but I believe it: Shen builds basses because that's their business. Upton builds basses because that's their passion (and it shows). I'm always going to go with the latter if at all possible.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
Follow Upton on any social media and it's clear that they have a raging hardon for what they do. It's pretty great to see that.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Hi thread, I'm looking at getting back into playing my bass more and would like any recommendations for good options to plug into PC (windows 10), probably through USB.

Seems like it would be a good way to practice and play along with tunes as well as adding cool effects.

I had looked at Line6 bass pods ages ago when I was a busted rear end student but now it looks like they don't have those on their website anymore?

Anyway nothing too fancy, $100-200 range tops if there is anything worthwhile. Otherwise I can make do with my amp I suppose.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

priznat posted:

Hi thread, I'm looking at getting back into playing my bass more and would like any recommendations for good options to plug into PC (windows 10), probably through USB.

Seems like it would be a good way to practice and play along with tunes as well as adding cool effects.

I had looked at Line6 bass pods ages ago when I was a busted rear end student but now it looks like they don't have those on their website anymore?

Anyway nothing too fancy, $100-200 range tops if there is anything worthwhile. Otherwise I can make do with my amp I suppose.

Keep an eye out for a used Avid 11rack. They're getting a little long in the tooth compared to the modern runs of modellers, but it gets the job done nicely and can double for guitar practice and recording.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

priznat posted:

Hi thread, I'm looking at getting back into playing my bass more and would like any recommendations for good options to plug into PC (windows 10), probably through USB.

Seems like it would be a good way to practice and play along with tunes as well as adding cool effects.

I had looked at Line6 bass pods ages ago when I was a busted rear end student but now it looks like they don't have those on their website anymore?

Anyway nothing too fancy, $100-200 range tops if there is anything worthwhile. Otherwise I can make do with my amp I suppose.

Do you have good speakers already? Like, studio monitors?

Do you have an audio interface already?

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

Do you have good speakers already? Like, studio monitors?

Do you have an audio interface already?

I just want to plug into my computer and use headphones, mostly. They’re alright headphones but nothing too fancy (sennheiser open something or others)

Way back in the day I had one of those soundblasters that had the interfaces that would fit in a 5.25” pc bay and they had 1/4” jacks, it was great for just noodling around on. My current PC has 1/8” but they are for mics and I’m not sure if they would work with an adapter.

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

The Line-in jack should work. I have my record player plugged into mine.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
I get a lot of noise in the signal when I go through the line in on both my mobo and dedicated sound card. YMMV so give it a shot.

I might be getting one of these at the end of the month: Roland Duo Capture EX

I want something that can work with both windows and iOS without too much of a cable nightmare, and I've got a firsthand account of this working with both. The 9v power jack is what sells me on this compared to something else - others will try to pull power from the iPhone which won't supply enough juice to power the device. Even if they have dual usb inputs, I've seen a few reports of other models not playing nice with iOS. I've heard of quality issues and microtransaction nightmares for iRig, and I have a firsthand account of this doing what I want... so hopefully it goes on sale for Black Friday or Cyber Monday.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

The Science Goy posted:

I get a lot of noise in the signal when I go through the line in on both my mobo and dedicated sound card. YMMV so give it a shot.

I might be getting one of these at the end of the month: Roland Duo Capture EX

I want something that can work with both windows and iOS without too much of a cable nightmare, and I've got a firsthand account of this working with both. The 9v power jack is what sells me on this compared to something else - others will try to pull power from the iPhone which won't supply enough juice to power the device. Even if they have dual usb inputs, I've seen a few reports of other models not playing nice with iOS. I've heard of quality issues and microtransaction nightmares for iRig, and I have a firsthand account of this doing what I want... so hopefully it goes on sale for Black Friday or Cyber Monday.

This looks perfect! I will keep an eye out for sales on it too. Thanks!

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.
Get a USB recording interface unless you really want to mess around with effects (and I'd recommend getting something like a GT-1B + an interface instead of trying to make a multieffects your interface also.)

Focusrite Scarlett is probably your best bet at the low end.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Yeah please get something like a Scarlett Solo. You need an interface. Any other option for plugging into your computer is only going to end in inevitable headaches. Check Reverb and Guitar Center used online deals, they always have cheap Scarletts.

Thorpe
Feb 14, 2007

RELEASE THE KITTIES
If anyone enjoys big dumb basses I made a new video of a song I finished up. Yeah, I know I should probably just play keyboard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5sW7E2nRHA

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

Thorpe posted:

If anyone enjoys big dumb basses I made a new video of a song I finished up. Yeah, I know I should probably just play keyboard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5sW7E2nRHA

This was nice. :3:

Gorgar
Dec 2, 2012

Minto Took posted:

This was nice. :3:

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

Minto Took posted:

This was nice. :3:

Also, :golfclap: no fretwrap or other muting assistance

Thorpe
Feb 14, 2007

RELEASE THE KITTIES

The Science Goy posted:

Also, :golfclap: no fretwrap or other muting assistance

While not on this song, I do a lot of pulling off to open strings so I had to up my muting game

Rifter17
Mar 12, 2004
123 Not It
Made me want to listen to Trey Gunn!

I have a lot of random questions. Are you using a stereo output? Is the bass mostly set up for tapping? Also why not Chapman Stick/Warr Guitar/etc?

I've owned a Chapman Stick and the 5th tuning of the bass side just threw me off too much. I think I was too young to realize that I could just change the tuning, but eh. Also I found it not to be an immediate instrument. You can't just put it on your lap and start plucking away like almost any other instrument.

Thorpe
Feb 14, 2007

RELEASE THE KITTIES

Rifter17 posted:

Made me want to listen to Trey Gunn!

I have a lot of random questions. Are you using a stereo output? Is the bass mostly set up for tapping? Also why not Chapman Stick/Warr Guitar/etc?

I've owned a Chapman Stick and the 5th tuning of the bass side just threw me off too much. I think I was too young to realize that I could just change the tuning, but eh. Also I found it not to be an immediate instrument. You can't just put it on your lap and start plucking away like almost any other instrument.

I have to look up Trey Gunn now!

But yeah, I have a pretty big pedalboard and it has a few stereo pedals. And actually I need to get this setup really bad, the actions getting a little out of hand on the higher strings.

I’ve never tried a Chapman stick but to be honest they don’t interest me very much. I like the bass, I can play it like a normal bass if I want, slap and pop and everything. Plus I’m too stupid to have multiple tunings on one neck.

COOKIE DELIGHT
Jun 24, 2006
I guess you could say..I was born naturally influent.
Today at practice I ran my Darkglass B7K into my T-Max effects return, and the T-Max preamp out into a Sunn Concert Bass. Two tens, two twelves and two fifteens. Ridiculously loud, made me so happy. There was an unplugged fender rumble sitting nearby and playing a low b at volume would cause the pilot light to turn on. Not sure how that's possible but it made it feel even more powerful.



My birthday is on Tuesday and I've got a Small Sound/Big Sound Team Awesome Fuzz Machine arriving that day. Tuesday seems so far away.

Krustic
Mar 28, 2010

Everything I say draws controversy. It's kinda like the abortion issue.
I bought a Squier bass for 62 dollars last Friday and have already purchased a new bridge and electronics for it that will far exceed the cost of the bass. At least I already had a Rio Grande p bass pickup laying around for it. There is something I really like about top notch hardware on a low end bass guitar.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

Krustic posted:

I bought a Squier bass for 62 dollars last Friday and have already purchased a new bridge and electronics for it that will far exceed the cost of the bass. At least I already had a Rio Grande p bass pickup laying around for it. There is something I really like about top notch hardware on a low end bass guitar.

As long as the frets are solid and the neck allows a good setup, this type of bass just can't be beat for the price. I wouldn't necessarily put a Nordstrand pickup/pre into a Squier, but an upgraded used Squier is really difficult to beat for any comparable price.

Krustic
Mar 28, 2010

Everything I say draws controversy. It's kinda like the abortion issue.

The Science Goy posted:

As long as the frets are solid and the neck allows a good setup, this type of bass just can't be beat for the price. I wouldn't necessarily put a Nordstrand pickup/pre into a Squier, but an upgraded used Squier is really difficult to beat for any comparable price.

Yeah it’s like new really. Doesn’t play quite as good as my Fender Japan 70’s reissue but it also cost 1/10th the price and I don’t have to worry about sweating/spilling beer on it. I should have got one years ago really.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

The Science Goy posted:

I wouldn't necessarily put a Nordstrand pickup/pre into a Squier

I would / did and it is real good.

Then again the only things that are still "Squier" on it are the neck and body and the neck is on its way to be replaced here soon so it's kind of a Ship Of Theseus situation...

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

Once you replace the body or neck, it’s a different instrument.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
i have a MIA fender and it's a completetly different instrument than a squier

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

Dyna Soar posted:

i have a MIA fender and it's a completetly different instrument than a squier

"Completely different instrument" is a stretch, but no one disputes it's a significantly higher quality version of the same basic thing.

For the money, though, the upper-end Squiers are a killer value, especially if you were going to do things like replace pickups and hardware regardless.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
my bandmate has a squier w/ changed pickups and bridge and while it's ok it just feels cheap compared to a MIA fender. I'd just shell out the extra few hundred and get a MIA fender used rather than buy a squier and upgrade it.

COOKIE DELIGHT
Jun 24, 2006
I guess you could say..I was born naturally influent.
My Team Awesome Fuzz Machine arrived yesterday. I only got a few moments to try it out but it seems very suitable for all my bass fuzz needs. There's a volume for fuzz and a volume for clean so that you have incredible control over the blend abilities. Between my b7k and a bad monkey (not my favorite but it works) I thought I had a heavy enough tone with plenty of options, but I was totally missing out on crazy sustain and feedback control that a proper fuzz offers. The noise gate and phase toggle are pretty weird, sounds almost like a synth, I'm sure I'll get more familiar with them and understand the usefulness. It's strange having three dirt pedals all, letting go of the strings, and there's just absolute silence.

Constipated
Nov 25, 2009

Gotta make that money man its still the same now
Saw this jazz-neck-stringray on my local craigslist, and not sure if it is something awesome or awful.

https://dayton.craigslist.org/msg/d/frankenstein-bass-stingray/6396287357.html

Thoughts?

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

With that gap at the neck heel I'd wonder about if it'll intonate properly or if the scales work out somehow.

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Rifter17
Mar 12, 2004
123 Not It
A Sting Ray bass has 21 frets and a square heel, while a Fender has 20 frets and a rounded heel. They both have the same scale, so a properly fit neck (intonation wise) should have a gap.

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