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Killing single player would kill off entire genres and also cut off potential revenue from fans of those genres who aren't willing to flock to your highly monetized multiplayer shooter/moba so no, it's not going to happen because there's money in it
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Palpek posted:They should start giving game awards to people instead of titles just like the movie and tv industries do. Start recognizing and presenting the people in the industry to the mainstream more. The gaming industry ensures that this will always be a mistake.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:11
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al-azad posted:The tide will turn when lootboxes stop making money. Remember season passes? No point in having them when once digital sales picked up and Sony forced paid online multiplayer. Season passes are still a thing though and pretty much any major release has one. Do you mean online passes?
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Nov 15, 2017 18:12
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Nina posted:Killing single player would kill off entire genres and also cut off potential revenue from fans of those genres who aren't willing to flock to your highly monetized multiplayer shooter/moba so no, it's not going to happen because there's money in it Single player will still exist, it will just be saddled with needless leveling systems and the like so that
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Nov 15, 2017 18:12
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I actually feel like the one thing that hampers my enjoyment of HZD is how the leveling system and the skill tree feel entirely unnecessary and tacked on.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:14
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People have been saying that single player games are doomed for like 10 years now and they are going as strong as ever
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Nov 15, 2017 18:14
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Palpek posted:They should start giving game awards to people instead of titles just like the movie and tv industries do. Start recognizing and presenting the people in the industry to the mainstream more. give people meta critic scores
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Nov 15, 2017 18:15
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Andrast posted:People have been saying that single players games are doomed for like 10 years now and they are going strong as ever bethesda alone has been keeping entire genres alive with the stuff they publish from Tango and Arkane I don't know how or when but I hope someday we see Paul Giamatti nominated for Best Performance at a Games Awards
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Nov 15, 2017 18:15
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Nina posted:Killing single player would kill off entire genres and also cut off potential revenue from fans of those genres who aren't willing to flock to your highly monetized multiplayer shooter/moba so no, it's not going to happen because there's money in it There is negligible/no single player in Overwatch, Dota, Heartstone etc. The people who still need single player just haven't figured out the recipe for crack yet
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Nov 15, 2017 18:16
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fozzy fosbourne posted:There is negligible/no single player in Overwatch, Dota, Heartstone etc. The people who still need single player just haven't figured out the recipe for crack yet Didn't Hearthstone explicity go back and add a single player mode?
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Nov 15, 2017 18:19
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Yeah I think that was my reaction to the "Is the single-player story game dead" conversation a while back, that there is a chance basically only Sony will finance those kinds of games in the future because they can still use cinematic system-sellers. None of us is without sin, friend. I can safely say I've never bought a loot box, but I bought into plenty of microtransaction schemes that led up to loot boxes, so I'm part of the problem, too. And hell, the only reason I never bought loot boxes is just because I'd be super frustrated if I paid money and opened ten of them and didn't get any of the small list of things I want. I can't even claim to be taking a moral stand--I am clearly a thrall to capitalism, I just want to know what I'm getting for my  DLC Inc posted:bethesda alone has been keeping entire genres alive with the stuff they publish from Tango and Arkane As much as I poo poo on the games Bethesda actually develops, the games by other developers that they publish have a pretty impressive track record, so I can't be too negative about them. Harrow fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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Nov 15, 2017 18:19
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Andrast posted:People have been saying that single players games are doomed for like 10 years now and they are going strong as ever Single player games aren't dead but the trend hasn't exactly been super positive for AAA titles with high production values. Visceral and Bioware Montreal have been shut down, Arkane's treading water, IO/Eidos Montreal were cut loose from Square, Crystal Dynamics got moved off Tomb Raider, Volition and Telltale had to cut staff all within the past year. Studios rise and fall all the time but MP titles with microtransactions are able to generate insane profits that single-player games cannot match. Unsurprisingly the SP titles with the most recent success have all been propped up by Sony and Nintendo as console movers.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:22
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Harrow posted:
Todd Howard: Patron Saint of Single Player Games "It Just Works"
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I dont buy games with lootboxes except for Advanced Warfare because I didnt know it had them
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Nov 15, 2017 18:23
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My hope is that the customers for these things don't overlap perfectly and so there will be both profit to be had from making raw skinner box games as well as more traditional games (which for me appeal for learning and secrets). So I actually would prefer that these games don't have single player or anything and just are pure lootbox plus streamer bait things to keep it contained in it's own little biome.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:23
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Harrow posted:I am clearly a thrall to capitalism, I just want to know what I'm getting for my Jeez stop being so entitled.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:24
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DLC Inc posted:I don't know how or when but I hope someday we see Paul Giamatti nominated for Best Performance at a Games Awards
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Nov 15, 2017 18:25
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I really want Paul Giamatti as a central character in a Final Fantasy game. I don't care if he's a moogle or the right hand man of the big bad just let me get Paul Valentine Giamatti complaining about his life and falling asleep in a booth at a diner before you wake him up for a 100 gil quest
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Nov 15, 2017 18:29
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Sideways, but in the FFXV world
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Palpek posted:They should start giving game awards to people instead of titles just like the movie and tv industries do. Start recognizing and presenting the people in the industry to the mainstream more. E3 really shows why they don't. I worked in the industry (and QA is part of it, fight me :p ) and I've worked with quite a bit of developers etc, and yeah they aren't equipped to do social interactions with a big group.  If I had to nominate one person though, it would be Gio Corsi. He's pretty much the reason why Yakuza is able to be on the PS4. Bless that man.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:51
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One of the amazing things about HZD is it's one of the few games I've ever seen that delivered exactly what was promised in it's initial E3 reveal. Like the footage they first showed was pretty much the game they delivered with all the mechanics shown being stuff you could just do whenever you wanted. That being said, I'm having more trouble getting into the game then I thought but last night I think it might have started to click
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Nov 15, 2017 18:53
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i usually can't remotely get into open world games because they get really aimless and i stop caring right away, but HZD has me hooked both because the core combat gameplay is very very good and because you get to play a cool-rear end girl more games should let you play cool-rear end girls
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Nov 15, 2017 19:00
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if HZD had a freeform grappling hook it'd be my goty actually that goes for any game
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Nov 15, 2017 19:02
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:i usually can't remotely get into open world games because they get really aimless and i stop caring right away, but HZD has me hooked both because the core combat gameplay is very very good and because you get to play a cool-rear end girl Sorry, the industry has spoken and they chose bara.
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glam rock hamhock posted:One of the amazing things about HZD is it's one of the few games I've ever seen that delivered exactly what was promised in it's initial E3 reveal. Like the footage they first showed was pretty much the game they delivered with all the mechanics shown being stuff you could just do whenever you wanted. I was extremely skeptical of Horizon before it came out. It felt like every gameplay we actually saw came in the form of these perfectly-crafted vertical slices that weren't at all representative of real gameplay. But, well, not really. Sure, stage demos are stage demos, but they're actually reasonably representative. That original reveal? Most of that is pretty much how the game actually works, and hell, any differences probably come down to legitimate changes during development. It's really impressive and it really pleasantly surprised me.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:04
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DLC Inc posted:if HZD had a freeform grappling hook it'd be my goty Good design is about the grappling hooks you don't have.
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chumbler posted:Good design is about the grappling hooks you don't have. "It's about the grappling hooks you left behind, along the way"
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Nov 15, 2017 19:08
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Phantasium posted:The gaming industry ensures that this will always be a mistake. At least its not overwhelmingly populated by rapists and pedophiles
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Nov 15, 2017 19:09
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DLC Inc posted:if HZD had a freeform grappling hook it'd be my goty Did you play Flinthook?
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:i usually can't remotely get into open world games because they get really aimless and i stop caring right away, but HZD has me hooked both because the core combat gameplay is very very good and because you get to play a cool-rear end girl I love that Prey came out with a female character option and it was 100% the same narrative for it, because somehow I guess only Arkane realized you can totally just do that with most stories and it's actually a good way to go about it
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In Training posted:At least its not overwhelmingly populated by rapists and pedophiles Are we sure about that?
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an actual dog posted:Are we sure about that? I guess not...
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Since I mentioned this game the other day: Marvel Heroes is now officially being shut down, instead of just being a weird vestigial thing that never gets any new content or updates. No announcement on their forums of course because there hasn't been staff for awhile to actually announce things, but it's up on The Kotakus. Another kill for the millennials.
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Saint Freak posted:Since I mentioned this game the other day: Marvel Heroes is now officially being shut down, instead of just being a weird vestigial thing that never gets any new content or updates. No announcement on their forums of course because there hasn't been staff for awhile to actually announce things, but it's up on The Kotakus. Just the pc version or the console version too? Nevemind, liked it up. loving Disney axelblaze fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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Nov 15, 2017 19:19
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In Training posted:At least its not overwhelmingly populated by rapists and pedophiles Considering some of the underground stories that go around, I would bet more on "it hasn't come out" before "it isn't happening" TBH.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:20
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glam rock hamhock posted:Just the pc version or the console version too? Sounds like everything. “We [Marvel] regret to inform our Marvel Heroes fans that we have ended our relationship with Gazillion Entertainment, and that the Marvel Heroes games will be shut down. We would like to sincerely thank the players who joined the Marvel Heroes community, and will provide any further updates as they become available.”
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Nov 15, 2017 19:21
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Nina posted:I love that Prey came out with a female character option and it was 100% the same narrative for it, because somehow I guess only Arkane realized you can totally just do that with most stories and it's actually a good way to go about it  I really wish more would be like prey!!!
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glam rock hamhock posted:Just the pc version or the console version too? You gotta watch out for the autocorrect, man
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Andrast posted:People have been saying that single player games are doomed for like 10 years now and they are going as strong as ever The first time I remember hearing that forecast was when the first multiplayer shooters emerged. The only thing that might actually happen is that 50 million dollar single player games go away in favor of 10 million dollar ones that don't look as pretty.
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GhostDog posted:The first time I remember hearing that forecast was when the first multiplayer shooters emerged. The only thing that might actually happen is that 50 million dollar single player games go away in favor of 10 million dollar ones that don't look as pretty. I'd like to think that has already happened since we haven't had those "game sold 5 million copies, the publisher lost money" news in a while
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