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The exchange courtesy of IMDB “Do you know the oldest lie in America, Senator? Can I call you June?” “You can call me whatever you like. Take a bucket of piss and call it Granny's Peach Tea; take a weapon of assassination and call it deterrence. You won't fool a fly or me. I'm not gonna drink it.” IRL I’ve heard a similar saying of “don’t piss on my boots and tell me it’s raining”, but in either case you’re accusing the other person of feeding you bullshit.
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Jamesman posted:
No that's it, the point of the scene (and it's brief) is a "one final gently caress you" before setting off lexs grand plan but it comes across as overly weird.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:41
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It’s a very interesting take on Lex.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:46
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It's a jar labelled "Grandma's Peach Tea". It's a great final gently caress you to her.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:50
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Is it though?
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Nov 15, 2017 19:51
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Al Borland Corp. posted:It's a jar labelled "Grandma's Peach Tea". also to his valet, for some reason
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Nov 15, 2017 19:51
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Al Borland Corp. posted:It's a jar labelled "Grandma's Peach Tea". And to the audience!
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Nov 15, 2017 19:53
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Jamesman posted:
Just a reminder, this is the same visionary who said "Let's do something fun" with this material, introduced Jimmy Olsen, and then promptly blew his loving brains out. "Fun!" Can't wait until Snyder's Superfriends where he brings in the Wonder Twins, and he has Zan turn into yet another vessel of piss and Jayna becomes some abused shelter animal.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:It's a jar labelled "Grandma's Peach Tea". it's gross and weird and has no place in a movie like this
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Nov 15, 2017 19:55
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fruit on the bottom posted:The exchange courtesy of IMDB I've heard "Don't spit on my balls and tell me it's raining." Now that would be a scene to see.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:59
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fruit on the bottom posted:It’s a very interesting take on Lex. It kind of isn’t, though. Muddled and scattershot and weird, maybe, but it adds up to an underwhelming less than the sum of his parts.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:00
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Yeah I wasn’t being sincere. Lex was one of the weaker(!) parts of that movie.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:08
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Jesse Eisenberg did a better Lex performance in The Social Network
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Nov 15, 2017 20:10
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Roth posted:Jesse Eisenberg did a better Lex performance in The Social Network Well yeah, Fincher is a vastly better director than Snyder.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:12
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What got me about his character was that the long flowing locks he had for most of the movie were supposed to be the character's actual hair. I seriously thought that it was going to be a wig.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:19
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You people act like Holly Hunter took a giant gulp and exaggeratedly said "Wait a minute something doesn't taste right!" right before the bomb went off.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:20
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I wish. That would have been a drastic improvement.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:21
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Roth posted:Jesse Eisenberg did a better Lex performance in The Social Network The more I think about it, the better I think Batman v Superman would have worked if both Wonder Woman and Lex had been replaced with Amanda Waller.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:22
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Justice League is the jar of piss of films.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:26
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Al Borland Corp. posted:You people act like Holly Hunter took a giant gulp and exaggeratedly said "Wait a minute something doesn't taste right!" right before the bomb went off. I don’t understand why you think it’s so unbelievable to think people think a large, visible jar of urine on screen in a movie is in bad taste, or why you need to downplay it with hyperbole.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:31
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The pee jar being in bad taste wasn't the problem. It being loving stupid, zooming in and lingering on it for like 15 seconds and adding nothing to the story was the problem.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:46
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well, I'd argue that it's both those things
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So did Lex have a Henchman watching the Senate hearing just waiting for her to notice she was drinking piss before he set off the bomb?
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It's interminable. Senator Piss stutters and looks confused for what feels like five full minutes gradually turning the jar around and reading the label. This is only broken up because occasionally it cuts to Superman also looking confused. Most scenes in that movie were either just plain bad or way too long and a lot of them were both.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:54
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David D. Davidson posted:What got me about his character was that the long flowing locks he had for most of the movie were supposed to be the character's actual hair. I seriously thought that it was going to be a wig. It was a wig, I think he shaved his head early in the shoot. I liked his performance (for the most part) and I really liked most of his subtle moves to establish dominance but the piss jar was just bad. It's such a stupid frat boy prank that it sticks out in possibly the most frat bro comic book movie in recent history.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:56
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JT Smiley posted:So did Lex have a Henchman watching the Senate hearing just waiting for her to notice she was drinking piss before he set off the bomb? No, Mercy is there for literally no reason other than to get blown up. It adds nothing and exists only to kill a female character. Not for drama. Not to build up his ruthlessness (no one knows or reacts to her death). It's just to kill a female character for no reason at all.
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Nov 15, 2017 20:57
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It was a Mercy killing
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Nov 15, 2017 20:58
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Boo! Boo this man.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:02
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Sgt. Politeness posted:It was a wig, I think he shaved his head early in the shoot. I know that but I mean that we were supposed to believe that that terrible wig was Lex Luthor's real hair. There was a scene at the end of the movie of somebody shaving it off his head.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:04
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Roth posted:It was a Mercy killing I'm staring at this like Holly Hunter
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Nov 15, 2017 21:06
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Roth posted:It was a Mercy killing  The piss joke is dumb, because as a joke, it's not funny. Being funny is essential to jokes, and it failed to hit that bar. What's more, it happens in a scene that should be menacing, they have a scene where someone realizes they're about to die, and add a poo poo unfunny joke to it because.......
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Al Borland Corp. posted:It's a jar labelled "Grandma's Peach Tea". Sure, we're clearly supposed to be thinking, "Oh, the savage wit of that Lex! Literalizing the Senator's own words and turning them against her just before he kills her! I love to hate this compelling, well-realized villain!" Me, I was just laughing at the attempt to wring actual dramatic tension out of a jar of piss.
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^^^^ This is exactly what's wrong with the scene. I think the idea was if Mercy was there he could pretend he didn't know it was going to happen but it was definitely supposed to prove his ruthlessness. Either way a fridging is a fridging and I was really hoping to see her kick some rear end before getting the Jimmy Olsen treatment (who shouldn't even have been in the movie since they clearly cast a woman to play him in the first one). David D. Davidson posted:I know that but I mean that we were supposed to believe that that terrible wig was Lex Luthor's real hair. There was a scene at the end of the movie of somebody shaving it off his head. Sgt. Politeness fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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The thing is Zack Snyder seems to live under the delusion that he is some kind of auteur Micheal Bay but really isn't as clever as he thinks he is. See also Martha.
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David D. Davidson posted:Martha. Why did you say that 
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David D. Davidson posted:The thing is Zack Snyder seems to live under the delusion that he is some kind of auteur Micheal Bay but really isn't as clever as he thinks he is. See also Martha. I don't know which out of Snyder, Goyer, or Terrio came up with the Martha bit, but that's exactly the sort of plot point that only someone who's convinced he's being extremely clever could come up with, which makes it all the more amusing how badly it worked and how poorly it was received. Lick! The! Whisk! posted:It's nice to know I called how dumb of an idea it was to structure the villain of a loving Justice League movie around loving Steppenwolf like two years ago. It's pretty obvious that Steppenwolf was only chosen as the villain for the purpose of setting up Darkseid as the villain in the sequel, but it seems that most of that setup didn't make it into the final cut of the film.
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Lex feeding that guy a Jolly Rancher was a much better scene
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Barry Convex posted:It's pretty obvious that Steppenwolf was only chosen as the villain for the purpose of setting up Darkseid as the villain in the sequel, but it seems that most of that setup didn't make it into the final cut of the film. I’m not sure it was ever there to be cut. Darkseid is mentioned once as a “for darkseid” statement. Never shown. Or explained / alluded who he is. Same with the New Gods. Just a quick name drop without context. The boom tubes aren’t explained either. Steppenwolf just uses them every now and then. No hint at the end of this “attack” being part of a bigger plan. The post-credit scene is bad because I refuse to believe anyone on Earth can pose a threat to Superman.
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Barry Convex posted:It's pretty obvious that Steppenwolf was only chosen as the villain for the purpose of setting up Darkseid as the villain in the sequel, but it seems that most of that setup didn't make it into the final cut of the film. Well when it was originally going to be a two-parter, I think using Steppenwolf for the first part to set up Darkseid for the second makes sense. But then they decided it wasn't going to be two parts, and forgot to change the villain.
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The idea of making Lex a send up of millenials when the character is definitively a representation of unchecked xenophobic white privilege struck me as pretty wrongheaded in general. Him being a Hollywood Crazy Person that Batman heroically dooms to an abusive horror show of a mental health facility didn’t help much either.
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