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I have here in my hand a list of 205 communists in the Mil Hist thread
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Very much yes, feed systems and the colder temperatures could cause misfires, misfeeds, or simply jam the gun entirely. High G (more notably and more dangerously negative G) also was known to cause feeding issues, though this could be on an airframe by airframe basis and not a general rule. I don't think it was too common by the time of the early war, iirc
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Nov 15, 2017 21:21
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zoux posted:I have here in my hand a list of 205 communists in the Mil Hist thread I would read that thread.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:24
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HEY GUNS posted:it can't be that i examined the ideas and rejected them, i must be blinded by something irrational I'm not saying you're being irrational, I'm just pointing out that you lead the charge every time this happens When you see communists you ... See Red 
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Nov 15, 2017 21:31
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Phi230 posted:High G (more notably and more dangerously negative G) also was known to cause feeding issues, though this could be on an airframe by airframe basis and not a general rule. I don't think it was too common by the time of the early war, iirc Negative G was a bit more problematic for the effect it would have upon most early-war planes' engines.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:33
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Taerkar posted:Negative G was a bit more problematic for the effect it would have upon most early-war planes' engines. That issue was fixed forever by fuel injection right? Or are there other engine things that get upset?
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Nov 15, 2017 21:35
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Well, they did have the P-38, the P-39 and stuff like the Airacuda (a gently caress-ugly plane) which had cannons, but as pointed out by others, you've got a ton of machine guns and they work and its easier to train your pilots all on machine guns rather than multiple convergences and etc etc Yeah, I knew that the US stuck with the .50 instead of cannon because the cannon they had were not that great, but I've never seen an explanation of why they switched to .50s when they did. I never considered simple availability as an explanation for being a bit ahead of the curve.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:38
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Taerkar posted:Negative G was a bit more problematic for the effect it would have upon most early-war planes' engines. I've read that during the interwar it would cause feed systems to mess up by unseating larger rounds or jamming up in other fashions, even into the war. According to "Harnessing The Sky" by Frederick Trapnell, Jr. and Dana Tibbitts: "He [Capt. Marion Carl, USMC] immediately pushed over hard to attack another Zero coming up below him, and all six guns refused to fire. The ammunition's tendency to jam in the feed chutes under negative G forces happened only when the guns were armed with full or nearly full ammunition loads . . . this was later corrected in the field." This is 1942 and specific to the Wildcat, to note
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Nov 15, 2017 21:38
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Splode posted:That issue was fixed forever by fuel injection right? Or are there other engine things that get upset? Fuel injection was the solution, yes, but the British had to develop a special implement to ensure that negative G's didn't flood the engine. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Shilling%27s_orifice ^ This was a stopgap and the issue wasn't completely solved until 42/43
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Nov 15, 2017 21:40
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Fuel injection was the solution, yes, but the British had to develop a special implement to ensure that negative G's didn't flood the engine. Hahahaha wow what a name
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Nov 15, 2017 21:41
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Gnoman posted:Yeah, I knew that the US stuck with the .50 instead of cannon because the cannon they had were not that great, but I've never seen an explanation of why they switched to .50s when they did. I never considered simple availability as an explanation for being a bit ahead of the curve. Yeah: availability, ease of use (for the pilot) and suitable performance.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:42
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Stairmaster posted:historical socialist movements critiques of capitalism: very good Er, yes, but no - that's an extreme generalization and also wrong.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:43
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Tias posted:Er, yes, but no - that's an extreme generalization and also wrong. are you saying Nechayev's method of just blowing poo poo up and killing people isn't good praxis???
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Nov 15, 2017 21:47
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I'd give yugoslavia like a c- if that's what you're implying Tias.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:48
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Phi230 posted:are you saying Nechayev's method of just blowing poo poo up and killing people isn't good praxis??? This is the milhist thread so..?
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Nov 15, 2017 21:48
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Phi230 posted:are you saying Nechayev's method of just blowing poo poo up and killing people isn't good praxis??? Of course I am. Insurrectionism never worked. Stairmaster posted:I'd give yugoslavia like a c- if that's what you're implying Tias. No, I'm implying that a lot of socialist movements had lovely critiques, just like a lot of socialist revolutions had an excellent praxis - though, as we know itt, all the sensible civic and economic skills count for gently caress-all if you can't win the war.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:49
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HEY GUNS posted:and then UK-sempai will have to notice them A Korvettenkapitän called Albert Hopman told Tirpitz 1905 that his plan could not possible work and basically predicted exactly what happened in WWI. In 1912, Admiralstabschef August von Heeringen simulated what would happen if Hochseeflotte and the British Fleet fought each other in a potential war ("Kriegsspiel"). The leader playing the Royal Navy was ordered to play like a wimp, and the leader of the German side was ordered to play like a speed runner, trying to force a decisive battle as soon as possible. The first run ended with the German fleet obliterated down to the last ship at the Firth of Forth. The second run ended exactly the same way. Von Heeringen concluded that the Hochseeflotte was basically worthless in a real war, and submarines would have to be the weapon against the Royal Navy. And then Germany continued to build giant battleships and neglected the submarines, ignoring the lessons learned in various maneuvers, analysis of enemy maneuvers and other poo poo with nearly 100% accuracy. If you think to yourself "Why were those German admirals and their political overlords so loving stupid?", look no further then the German admiralty: Crippled by infighting, too small, too inexperienced, and being cursed by serving under a Kaiser who was very interested in their work, but also incredibly poo poo at it.  Essentially, the German High Sees Fleet was doomed before the war even started. (I have this from Christian Jentzsch's and Jann M. Witt's book Der Seekrieg 1914-1918, Die Kaiserliche Marine im Ersten Weltkrieg; 2016 WBG)
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Nov 15, 2017 21:56
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I know it'd be impractical, but was there ever a proposed or actual aircraft cannon that would shoot time fused shrapnel/flak shells to hit an enemy plane (as opposed to impact fused shells) to increase the chances of a hit? IE like the ground AAA cannons everybody used. The few aircraft cannons I've looked at on wikipedia are all impact fused.
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Nov 15, 2017 21:57
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Neophyte posted:I know it'd be impractical, but was there ever a proposed or actual aircraft cannon that would shoot time fused shrapnel/flak shells to hit an enemy plane (as opposed to impact fused shells) to increase the chances of a hit? IE like the ground AAA cannons everybody used. The few aircraft cannons I've looked at on wikipedia are all impact fused. As far as I know there's never been prox fused autocannon ammo..the smallest around in WW2 that saw operational use was 3" ammo. THIS YEAR, though, prox fused ammo for the M2 and AH-64s chainguns are being tested as we speak, for anti-drone use.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:01
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That would be hilariously impossible to fuse without modern electronic rangefinding.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:08
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HEY GUNS posted:after the development of the tax-supported professional standing army. You only romanticize them once they're not shaking you down for "contributions." Yah, romantic is a poor word choice when for the serf's bastard son it's a matter of surviving (for a short while). Upper classes being slightly different.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:08
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Neophyte posted:I know it'd be impractical, but was there ever a proposed or actual aircraft cannon that would shoot time fused shrapnel/flak shells to hit an enemy plane (as opposed to impact fused shells) to increase the chances of a hit? IE like the ground AAA cannons everybody used. The few aircraft cannons I've looked at on wikipedia are all impact fused. Not an answer to your question, but the Israelis at one point ended up with defective cannon shells that would explode a split second after impact, making their cannons pretty useless until it was discovered by doing a ground test where they put nice small holes through the test target before exploding thirty feet behind it.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:09
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P-Mack posted:Not an answer to your question, but the Israelis at one point ended up with defective cannon shells that would explode a split second after impact, making their cannons pretty useless until it was discovered by doing a ground test where they put nice small holes through the test target before exploding thirty feet behind it. Sorry I think you mean they invented the APHE round.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:10
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OwlFancier posted:That would be hilariously impossible to fuse without modern electronic rangefinding. But you can use fixed time mechanical fusing, just have different timed shells for different ranges! Or just use one timing and fire when your target is in range! What could be simpler? Now on this page I've sketched out my proposal for a fixed network of anti-zeppelin
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Nov 15, 2017 22:16
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Pfff, you can have your poo poo tier fixed fuses, I've jammed a submarine sterescopic rangefinder into the cockpit and instructed the pilots to use their spotting book to dial in the range and heading of their targets before they fire.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:24
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Small Brain: .50 cal Large Brain: 20mm autocannon Galaxy Brain: 
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Nov 15, 2017 22:35
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zoux posted:Small Brain: .50 cal hey if you add it all up it's like 90mm
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Nov 15, 2017 22:37
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How the gently caress do you get hold of what I assume is 10 automatic mausers but not a machinegun?
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Nov 15, 2017 22:39
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zoux posted:Small Brain: .50 cal OwlFancier posted:How the gently caress do you get hold of what I assume is 10 automatic mausers but not a machinegun?
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Nov 15, 2017 22:41
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OwlFancier posted:That would be hilariously impossible to fuse without modern electronic rangefinding. I think you might actually have been able to do this with WWII US technology, if you don't mind taking a 75mm cannon armed "interceptor" up against bomber formations. By the end of the war, they'd gotten down to 3" VT fuzes. 75mm guns had been mounted in medium bombers. Something like the XP-71 might be a good fit. I mean if we're starting from the premise that this makes sense and is a priority. All you'd need is the US facing down an enemy capable of running a bomber offensive like the one it did. And really weird priorities. What you'd probably actually want to look at is German air to air rockets for attacking bombers. But those aren't incredibly goofy.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:49
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Comrade Gorbash posted:The guy manning it looks like Mario got drafted into the Deutsches Heer. https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/austro-hungarian-aircraft-gunner-mausers-1917/
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Nov 15, 2017 22:52
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OwlFancier posted:How the gently caress do you get hold of what I assume is 10 automatic mausers but not a machinegun? Here, hold my beer...  (88 PPSh-41s in a Soviet Tu-2.) Cessna fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Nov 15, 2017 |
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Nov 15, 2017 22:52
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Cessna posted:Here, hold my beer... The drive by Tu-2 makes more sense because you literally just want to dump all the lead out at once and it's not like the soviets were short of ppsh's. Whereas that thing's got the mounting ring and everything but apparently they just couldn't scrounge up a machinegun.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:54
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Austro-hungary didn't have a LMG.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:58
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zoux posted:Small Brain: .50 cal This, but with type 94 Nambu pistols. You don't even need a trigger mechanism - just repeatedly whack the side of the whole contraption when you want to shoot.
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Nov 15, 2017 22:59
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Oh, wow, 280 posts in the mil hist thread since last night! . . . 
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Nov 15, 2017 22:59
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Fangz posted:Austro-hungary didn't have a LMG. You must have some French ones lying around. E: they've even got air holes pre drilled so it won't slow the plane down as much.
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Nov 15, 2017 23:01
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There's a certain poetry to Austo-Hungary taking a bunch of pistol caliber sidearms and trying to turn them into an aircraft weapon at about the same time the Italians were doing the reverse.
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Nov 15, 2017 23:01
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OwlFancier posted:The drive by Tu-2 makes more sense because you literally just want to dump all the lead out at once and it's not like the soviets were short of ppsh's It would have been even better if my image loaded, dammit.
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bewbies posted:At least during the ACW...it seems no one - aside from a bunch of stupid pussy bitch scientists and medical professionals no one listened to - knew/understood how bad the disease factor was going to be. Certainly for the average soldier, the bad guys were a far more existential threat than the shits, even though they were 4-5 times more likely to die from the shits. I'm reading General Lee's Army right now, and just got to the the fall of '61, where in the aftermath of First Bull Run there's tens of thousands of confederate soldier's camped out in Northern Virginia waiting for something to happen. Basically of them came to the war thinking they were strong country boys naturally disposed to soldiering or whatever, but they've also never slept away from home for more than a few nights, none of them know how to cook anything, and they refuse to follow any sort of instruction regarding latrine discipline. Stacked on top of that is that only 20% of them are from a town with more than 10,000 people, and nearly all of them are completely ineffective due to illness, and there's no hospitals or medical staff, and very little food. Sounds like a real missed opportunity to strike for the Union to strike, except I imagine they're probably in a similar situation.  HEY GUNS posted:did war create the modern (late-17th-c-to-20th c) nation state and if so how and when? Talk more about this, it does not jive with my understanding of Russian history in the 16th/17th at all. Muscovy isn't having the best of times of course, but it doesn't get destroyed either.
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Nov 15, 2017 23:32
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
