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Straight White Shark posted:he's a nerd though so his melee should only do half damage He's got ape steroids though.
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Ashcans posted:I was just thinking that I had never actually tried hitting melee on Reinhardt and wondering what happened. They should give him a melee attack where he clocks people with a beer stein. He doesn't have a quick melee lol
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Ashcans posted:I was just thinking that I had never actually tried hitting melee on Reinhardt and wondering what happened. They should give him a melee attack where he clocks people with a beer stein. I thought about this and figured it might be a bit busted going hammer->melee->hammer->melee. Assuming you could combo them together for faster hammer swings.
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Random question for the free weekend... I play on Xbone right now, but I finally got a decent computer, so I was going to give it a try this weekend. I installed the client with the installer and have the Battle-net app already. I should be good to go when it starts, right?
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Bumper Stickup posted:I thought about this and figured it might be a bit busted going hammer->melee->hammer->melee. Assuming you could combo them together for faster hammer swings. Firestrike as you engage->hammer->melee would shave off a lot of time on killing 200HP squishies.
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Network42 posted:I mean, doomfist doesn't melee with his loving doomfist, so I'm not sure that argument works. This is a tremendous design oversight imo
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Ignite Memories posted:This is a tremendous design oversight imo I actually like that he punches with his off-hand because it's like the ultimate sign of disrespect for the man with the golden glove to say that he can kill you with his regular hand.
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Nov 16, 2017 20:23
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Also PATCH IS LIVE so hold onto your butts.
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Didn't hear about this patch note before:quote:Arcade
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Heck yeah. Two weeks of me not having to play healer every game. Now to figure out who counters Moira and have a good time.
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Kai Tave posted:Also PATCH IS LIVE so hold onto your butts. I thought this was likely so I gave crazy-OP Mercy one last spin last night, for a 120 SR gain. Despite that, I won't miss her.
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Nov 16, 2017 20:36
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6v6 no limits is a little silly right now.
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Liar Lyre posted:Heck yeah. Two weeks of me not having to play healer every game. Now to figure out who counters Moira and have a good time. Ana’s grenade, Sombra’s hack.
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Doomfist's light melee attack should be a small flick with the Doomfist hand.
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Liar Lyre posted:Heck yeah. Two weeks of me not having to play healer every game. Now to figure out who counters Moira and have a good time. hint: its not winston
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Since Moira does super loads of healing zarya seems like she would be pretty good. Fights will go on forever so there will be loads of opportunities to get charged. Rein also pretty effective if only because the shield blocks her right click so you can starve her heal ray meter and she can't ignore a hammer like she can a tesla cannon. Punish her aggression with roadhog. Don't use Winston. Orisa maybe also not the best choice but a gun's better. Dragging separated enemies together just makes it easier for her to spray them all. Side question: if Lucio doots a mercy using rez on somebody will it interrupt it since she moves too far away to reach? And this means she loses the cd for 30s? If this is right, I'm slamming Lucio super hard anytime I'm up against mercy. Jinh fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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should work that way, yes. casting interrupts if mercy moves herself out of range so i would imagine a good doot would do it
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How would Winston not counter Moira? She seems like exactly the kind of character he eats for breakfast.
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Oxyclean posted:Didn't hear about this patch note before: Yeah, I'm really happy about this. I had been wondering whether there's a technical reason for the 5 option limit in arcade, since it's been ages since we've had Capture the Flag available... so that should fix that problem well.
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Thoughtless posted:How would Winston not counter Moira? She seems like exactly the kind of character he eats for breakfast. She self-heals with her succ. You'd take forever to kill her and be a sitting duck for other players. Her M1 healing also cleaves, so Winston can't even get ahead on being able to hit multiple targets at once.
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Straight White Shark posted:he's a nerd though so his melee should only do half damage well... technically they do deal half (of his ult's) damage 
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Forgot dva, dva's maybe the best tank against Moira comps solely because you can eat her orbs like Pac-Man.
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thexerox123 posted:Yeah, I'm really happy about this. I had been wondering whether there's a technical reason for the 5 option limit in arcade, since it's been ages since we've had Capture the Flag available... so that should fix that problem well. I think there's no technical reason for only having 5 - they just don't want to split queues too much.
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Thoughtless posted:How would Winston not counter Moira? She seems like exactly the kind of character he eats for breakfast. moira's fade is a really, really good escape tool and will make her very hard to dive
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phthalocyanine posted:moira's fade is a really, really good escape tool and will make her very hard to dive The more relevant bit is her self-healing. She might not really be able to kill Winston herself, but all she has to do is not die and Winston can't stay on her forever.
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Kai Tave posted:The more relevant bit is her self-healing. She might not really be able to kill Winston herself, but all she has to do is not die and Winston can't stay on her forever. ana has very good burst self healing and still gets dumpstered by winston if her team isn't there to peel for her. moira's fade is the much bigger deal for her being hard to jump
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ana only gets 100hp and only if its off cooldown. moira just succs and succs as long as theres no bubble in-between
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oh when i was testing her on ptr i didnt realize that the lifesteal she got off her right click was like identical to the damage it does lmao yeah nevermind winston isn't going to do poo poo to her, at least not alone fade is still extremely good though
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fyi if you're in no limits to mess with moira, bastion shits on her like nothing else 6 shooting you at once can't out damage like 1 healer
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phthalocyanine posted:oh when i was testing her on ptr i didnt realize that the lifesteal she got off her right click was like identical to the damage it does lmao yeah nevermind winston isn't going to do poo poo to her, at least not alone Her self heal is 33% lower than her damage, but that still means she's undoing more than half of Winston's damage.
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Manatee Cannon posted:fyi if you're in no limits to mess with moira, bastion shits on her like nothing else I didn't have any trouble taking care of the Moiras in No Limits with Junkrat.
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So if Moira good, Winston is basically a bad pick? So we are back to Roadhog=Zarya/Dva/Rein/Ana/Soldier and now Moira?
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FaustianQ posted:So if Moira good, Winston is basically a bad pick? So we are back to Roadhog=Zarya/Dva/Rein/Ana/Soldier and now Moira? In pick up games probably. In games where you have a cooperative Zen or a Dive partner? He'll probably still be strong.
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i've been getting annihilated in deathmatches by moira since the patch dropped. i usually jump in as tracer. but the last 5 games i've picked Torb and got #1 finish in every one so...I think that's a good strat if you want your loot boxes.
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Moira's damage ball is really good at stymieing a tightly packed rein-ball pushing through a choke... unless the other team has a DVA or lucio, where it becomes basically useless. If they are just running ana/zen, though, you make the other team's supports job really hard as they try to put one bit of heal on each person with a bunch of their own team's tank's asses in the way.
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mccree will be good against moira as long as you catch her with fade on cooldown, otherwise she'll just dodge it and keep suckin that said, is fade just an invisibility or is it also an invulnerability
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Snazzy Frocks posted:mccree will be good against moira as long as you catch her with fade on cooldown, otherwise she'll just dodge it and keep suckin I swear I hooked someone that was using it but it's hard to say e:  might have just been insane timing but idk Manatee Cannon fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:I swear I hooked someone that was using it but it's hard to say I believe she is invuln during fade. Don't know if it renders her invulnerable to cc-- does she get trapped by Junk if she fades through his trap?
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