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Farmdizzle posted:I just want to know which rear end in a top hat at GM decided that reverse lights should be tied to dome lights, or be lit in any gear other than reverse. Can't count the number of times I've waited for someone to back out of a parking space only to see them walk away from their car instead. I've never noticed this in any car. When I park my car (a manual) I put it in gear in case the parking brake fails as a second line of defense to keep my car from rolling away. I always use first but I've heard mention of people using reverse instead. This seems more likely than linking the dome lights to the reverse lights. Edit; I do sometimes use reverse when my car is parked facing downhill.
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Farmdizzle posted:I just want to know which rear end in a top hat at GM decided that reverse lights should be tied to dome lights, or be lit in any gear other than reverse. Can't count the number of times I've waited for someone to back out of a parking space only to see them walk away from their car instead. I was behind an older (late-nineties) Lexus of some flavor the other day that had managed to wire their reverse lights to the brake light switch. Good comedy.
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GutBomb posted:I've never noticed this in any car. When I park my car (a manual) I put it in gear in case the parking brake fails as a second line of defense to keep my car from rolling away. I always use first but I've heard mention of people using reverse instead. This seems more likely than linking the dome lights to the reverse lights. I think you're supposed to have it in the forward facing gear. First when facing downhill, reverse when facing uphill. It's so the car is putting the appropriate tension on the timing. Or something. It probably doesn't matter so much.
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GutBomb posted:I've never noticed this in any car. When I park my car (a manual) I put it in gear in case the parking brake fails as a second line of defense to keep my car from rolling away. I always use first but I've heard mention of people using reverse instead. This seems more likely than linking the dome lights to the reverse lights. My mom had a couple Bonnevilles and I'll confirm that the reverse lights come on when you hit the unlock button on the keys. It's definitely a thing and it's stupid.
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Nov 17, 2017 15:06
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Farmdizzle posted:I just want to know which rear end in a top hat at GM decided
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Finger Prince posted:Back in the days before auto lights and all that fancy stuff I just turned my lights on whenever I got in the car, and only turned them off when I got out (on account of lights being stupid in those days, and remaining on after shutting off the car). I don't know why you wouldn't. Save electrons? Especially given that LED a) work forever and b) use bugger-all power, there's not reason not to hardwire your lights into the ignition key.
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Farmdizzle posted:I just want to know which rear end in a top hat at GM decided that reverse lights should be tied to dome lights, or be lit in any gear other than reverse. Can't count the number of times I've waited for someone to back out of a parking space only to see them walk away from their car instead. Yeah the perimeter lights on the newer trucks are a really bad idea.
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Farmdizzle posted:I just want to know which rear end in a top hat at GM decided that reverse lights should be tied to dome lights, or be lit in any gear other than reverse. Can't count the number of times I've waited for someone to back out of a parking space only to see them walk away from their car instead. Boaz MacPhereson posted:My mom had a couple Bonnevilles and I'll confirm that the reverse lights come on when you hit the unlock button on the keys. It's definitely a thing and it's stupid. Yeah, that's a GM keyless entry thing of late. I hate it. Just turn the park lights on, you twits. MrYenko posted:I was behind an older (late-nineties) Lexus of some flavor the other day that had managed to wire their reverse lights to the brake light switch. Good comedy. They most likely accidentally switched the sockets when checking/changing bulbs. I discovered on my Crown Vic that all the 3156/57 sockets on it use the same keying.
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Finger Prince posted:Back in the days before auto lights and all that fancy stuff I just turned my lights on whenever I got in the car, and only turned them off when I got out (on account of lights being stupid in those days, and remaining on after shutting off the car). I don't know why you wouldn't. Save electrons? I have pop up headlights whose motors are essentially timebombs so I try to use them as infrequently as possible.
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Nov 17, 2017 17:11
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Dave Inc. posted:I think you're supposed to have it in the forward facing gear. First when facing downhill, reverse when facing uphill. It's so the car is putting the appropriate tension on the timing. I always thought it was reverse facing downhill, First facing uphill.
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Nov 17, 2017 18:30
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wesleywillis posted:I always thought it was reverse facing downhill, First facing uphill. this is correct
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Darchangel posted:They most likely accidentally switched the sockets when checking/changing bulbs. I discovered on my Crown Vic that all the 3156/57 sockets on it use the same keying. No no, the brakelights worked fine, the reverse lights just ALSO came on when he braked. It was gently caress-wired.
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sneakyfrog posted:this is correct gently caress yeah, Validation from a random internet guy  2019 Dodge ram spy shots. I'm sure that once it goes in to production, the tailgate will line up for at least a few weeks.  
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Nov 17, 2017 18:53
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So they cover up all the parts of the truck that never change, and leave the hot new revolutionary feature out in the open? What a bunch of maroons.
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xzzy posted:So they cover up all the parts of the truck that never change, and leave the hot new revolutionary feature out in the open? They haven't put on the RAM badging yet, which is rumoured to be even bigger than the previous generation.
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They probably haven't figured out whether to put the A or the M along the seam. Or try to space the letters so none of them overlap it.
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xzzy posted:They probably haven't figured out whether to put the A or the M along the seam. Or try to space the letters so none of them overlap it. The R will now double as a generic valtrex dispenser, and the M dispenses roofies. The manual refers to this as the "Tailgate Party" feature. You'd think that this would be unintuitive, but all Ram owners are illiterate.
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Nov 17, 2017 19:12
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What about the A? Poop?
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The entire tailgate is just a section of skeletonized sandwich of plastic and sheet metal that spells RAM
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Trying to wrap my head around the benefit of a split tailgate. I mean, it's going to need just as much room behind it to open it. Also, pretty sure the kiosk cell phone wrap place in the mall has that same dazzle pattern 
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Nov 17, 2017 19:17
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Maybe it’s like the Buick wagon tailgates of old and it can flip or swing.
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My parent's 84 Caprice station wagon had the same tailgate as the "innovative" Honda ridgeline tailgate. I can see its purpose though. Drop it like a tail gate for long poo poo, tailgate parties, etc, or open it like a normal door so that we could pile in the very back seat. But this? Or the one on the ridgeline for that matter?
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wesleywillis posted:What about the A? Poop? Too many sharp edges for the average Ram owner to safely operate without their court-appointed handler's supervision. It's recessed into the tailgate.
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wesleywillis posted:I always thought it was reverse facing downhill, First facing uphill. This will spin the engine backwards though if it does roll for whatever reason. Which is never the best idea.
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Nov 17, 2017 19:28
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So I can stuff a motorcycle / dirtbike into it without having to leave the whole tailgate down
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StormDrain posted:Maybe it’s like the Buick wagon tailgates of old and it can flip or swing. There's some patent drawings out there that show it does flip or swing.
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Nov 17, 2017 19:38
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Make the flip a flip off the rear end in a top hat behind me and I'm in.
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wesleywillis posted:2019 Dodge ram spy shots. I'm sure that once it goes in to production, the tailgate will line up for at least a few weeks. Just emulating Tesla 
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Memento posted:
I wonder what my 250k mile Toy-Auto clutch looks like.
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Terrible car stuff is trying to keep a black car clean. Not sure why I bother to be honest.
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I think the problem is the cat, not the color.
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BlackMK4 posted:So I can stuff a motorcycle / dirtbike into it without having to leave the whole tailgate down I wonder how strong that would be, if say, you had "half" (or 60 or 40%) of the tail gate down? What about an ATV? Putting ramps on that poo poo might be sketchy as gently caress. wesleywillis fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Nov 17, 2017 |
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Terrible car stuff is trying to keep a black car clean. try metalflake white friend. I miss my black car 
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Dave Inc. posted:This will spin the engine backwards though if it does roll for whatever reason. Which is never the best idea. I suspect, that might be the point? I don't know for sure. Maybe its harder to turn an engine backwards? = Less chance of rolling if the parking brake fails and the engine is so worn that compression is minim....... gently caress I don't know, thats just what I've read/been told.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:They haven't put on the RAM badging yet, which is rumoured to be even bigger than the previous generation. I hate the current special version that has the giant fuckoff letters in the grille and tailgate. It's beyond tacky. wesleywillis posted:My parent's 84 Caprice station wagon had the same tailgate as the "innovative" Honda ridgeline tailgate. I can see its purpose though. Drop it like a tail gate for long poo poo, tailgate parties, etc, or open it like a normal door so that we could pile in the very back seat. This. I'm just not seeing the purpose to the feature. BlackMK4 posted:So I can stuff a motorcycle / dirtbike into it without having to leave the whole tailgate down No, just 2/3 of it, since the wheel house will be in the way of putting it to the side where the short door is. edit: probably relevant: https://blog.caranddriver.com/swinging-every-way-ram-patents-split-door-tailgate-that-opens-multiple-ways/ Darchangel fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Nov 17, 2017 |
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Darchangel posted:No, just 2/3 of it, since the wheel house will be in the way of putting it to the side where the short door is. gently caress, you're right.
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I think the conclusion is that now they need to divide the tailgate into three separate doors, and the middle one has hinges on both edges so you can choose which direction it opens up. The locking/unlocking mechanism will never have any issues because they're certainly get it right the first time.
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Found while digging up the patent on the bi https://blog.caranddriver.com/ram-patents-retractable-pickup-truck-bed-ramps/  That's actually a pretty cool feature, if it's ever implemented. edit: added picture. Darchangel fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Nov 17, 2017 |
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wesleywillis posted:I suspect, that might be the point? I don't know for sure. Maybe its harder to turn an engine backwards? = Less chance of rolling if the parking brake fails and the engine is so worn that compression is minim....... gently caress I don't know, thats just what I've read/been told. an engine spinning backwards has less compression
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wesleywillis posted:I suspect, that might be the point? I don't know for sure. Maybe its harder to turn an engine backwards? = Less chance of rolling if the parking brake fails and the engine is so worn that compression is minim....... gently caress I don't know, thats just what I've read/been told. I don't think it's any harder to turn the engine backwards than forwards -- you're still working against the same volume of air being compressed in the same number of cylinders. Depending on valve overlap the compression might be slightly lower, in fact. The idea that backwards is harder because it's "wrong" is just a myth. The problem with turning the engine backwards is that, while the crankshaft can probably turn fine either way, the valvegear is very much not designed to go backwards in most modern engines. The lobes on the cams may not be ramped correctly, and the timing system might be designed to only experience tension going in one direction. Fun fact though: some diesel engines with electric fuel pumps and symmetrical valvetrains can run equally well in reverse, except that air gets sucked in the exhaust pipe and exhausted out the intake, which is spectacular to watch but real bad for everything that is not the engine itself
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