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Sir Thats Gross posted:Also on ETSU, a cousin of mine played football for them in the early 90s. I used to have an old ETSU Bucs shirt from when he played there. When did they start playing ball again? I just looked and they didn’t have football from 2003 to 2014. It came back in 2015, and they built an outdoor field. That said they will always be a basketball school to me. In the early 90’s they actually won a NCAA tournament game against Arizona. Oh the Vol Nation crazy spin is that things were moving too fast and they wanted to slow things down in the press. Makes no sense.
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Ehud posted:yeah today I woke up and now I think it's a good idea Yeah get on the Chip Train, don't be a b1tch.
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an adult beverage posted:Yeah get on the Chip Train, don't be a b1tch.
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I think there are plausible contrarian takes to be made that Chip Kelly could end up not being great, but at the end of the day I think you'd be crazy not to take him if he's available.
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Has anybody pointed out that Kansas has a sizable first degree transitive loss to Turner Gill?
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Tbh most of their losses can probably be credited to turner gill
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Turner Gill was really lucky that Weis was so theatrically bad that everybody largely forgot how badly and quickly the program tanked under his watch in the first place.
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Weis tumbled down the proverbial flight of stairs for years and years, rolling end over end from landing to landing.
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an adult beverage posted:Yeah get on the Chip Train, don't be a b1tch. -me as an Eagles fan about five years ago
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Ralker posted:-me as an Eagles fan about five years ago "I want to get off Mr Kelly's wild ride" -Eagle's fans, circa 2015, probably
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Ralker posted:-me as an Eagles fan about five years ago can’t believe Bama hired that crappy dolphins coach what a bunch of suckers
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I want Kiffin https://twitter.com/lane_kiffin/status/931540865318838272
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MourningView posted:can’t believe Bama hired that crappy dolphins coach what a bunch of suckers I think Chip could be a good college coach again, if he actually practiced what he preached. I remember him making a big deal about how his scheme would adapt to his players and emphasize their strengths and then used the same offensive scheme with Nick Foles and Demarco Murray as with Mike Vick and Lesean McCoy. Hopefully he does coach Florida because you don’t have to be this amazing recruiter there to get talent and the college game rules are set up better to allow the hurry-up. I liked him at Oregon but I have no idea what happened in Philly that made him think he could just do whatever game plan he wanted with whatever random players he could acquire. On the bright side his lovely NFL years were still like 8 win seasons.
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The little boy is becoming the Day Man before our very eyes
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Chip would have to show some nuts-and-bolts give-a-poo poo for him to really work out at Florida. - Would he invest more energy into crootin? You'd think UF would sell itself, but McElwain's classes sucked. - Would he invest more energy into updating his scheme? His Xs and Os were solvable shrugs toward the end there in SF. - Would he invest more mental energy/delegate better w/r/t talent evaluation? Because the choices he made in Philly were baaaaad. I think he'd be a fine enough hire and Florida would contend for East titles with him, but I dunno about more than that.
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I do kinda want the 🕷 ✌️ Y 🍌 Tshirt I saw
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Kiffin’s Twitter keeps getting better and better. He just tweeted that he is coming back to Knoxville as Gruden’s GA.
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Ralker posted:I think Chip could be a good college coach again, if he actually practiced what he preached. I remember him making a big deal about how his scheme would adapt to his players and emphasize their strengths and then used the same offensive scheme with Nick Foles and Demarco Murray as with Mike Vick and Lesean McCoy. I don't think his NFL record is as awful as people say (his offenses those two successful years were pretty good), and I don't think it indicates anything about his ability to coach college.
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Grittybeard posted:Was it you guys that Tomlin was briefly rumored to go to? Yeah I'm fairly sure it was us. Every name in football was brought up at some point, I saw fans earnestly talking about taking a stab at Belichek. Cowher was also a popular name at the time. Sean Payton as well.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I don't think his NFL record is as awful as people say (his offenses those two successful years were pretty good), and I don't think it indicates anything about his ability to coach college. Yeah at this point, being head coach in the NFL vs head coach in college are just two entirely different universes.
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if only we had some evidence of how chip kelly could handle being a college coach
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I think people forget how good Oregon was when he was there.
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Chip Kelly in 4 years as Oregon’s head coach: 4 seasons with at least 10 wins, 3 seasons with 12 wins, 4 BCS bowl appearances, 2 BCS Bowl wins, 1 NCG appearance (that they would have won were it not for that fluke Dyer run), 3 conference titles, 3 Top 5 finishes (they were 11th in the other season), 3 total conference losses That is about as good a 4 year run as you will find with any modern coach not named Saban, Meyer, Stoops, or Carroll. The NFL didn’t work out, but he did not become the hottest NFL coaching prospect by accident. E: and this isn’t even including the 07 and 08 teams that were awesome mostly on the strength of his offense or the two years after he left where they added another NCG appearance running his offense with a QB he recruited and developed MourningView fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 17, 2017 |
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MourningView posted:Chip Kelly in 4 years as Oregon’s head coach: 4 seasons with at least 10 wins, 3 seasons with 12 wins, 4 BCS bowl appearances, 2 BCS Bowl wins, 1 NCG appearance (that they would have won were it not for that fluke Dyer run), 3 conference titles, 3 Top 5 finishes (they were 11th in the other season), 3 total conference losses Plus he left enough in the cupboard that Helfrich had to engineer his own downfall. E: Yeah, what you said in your E.
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We all know Scott Frost was the real man behind the man, though.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I think people forget how good Oregon was when he was there. I think the argument being made is that Oregon was in much better shape when he got there than Florida is now. I think Chip Kelly is as close to a sure thing as you're going to find, but it's true that he came into a very good situation at Oregon and had a few years as OC to get himself oriented before taking over, so it's still yet to be seen what him taking over a bad team is going to look like.
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Oregon had never consistently been that good before. They were very up and down under Bellotti and had one Top 25 season in the 5 years before Chip arrived as OC. It’s not like he took over Ohio State or something
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I think people forget how good Oregon was when he was there. I didn't 
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People’s perception of what Oregon football has historically been is super warped now, mostly because of Chip Kelly
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MourningView posted:People’s perception of what Oregon football has historically been is super warped now, mostly because of Chip Kelly Phil Knight pumping fuckloads of money helped, but yeah, I can't even remember Oregon before the Chip Kelly years.
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I guess in my brain the Harrington years lead directly into the Dennis Dixon years
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Rich Brooks had a below .500 record overall and they let him coach for 17 goddamn years. And people were so impressed that he managed to have just one genuinely good year there that he immediately got an NFL job out of it
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D.N. Nation posted:Chip would have to show some nuts-and-bolts give-a-poo poo for him to really work out at Florida. I would want a good recruiting staff but McElwain's bad classes are better than Oregon's best classes, Macs classes were bad in the relative sense that half of UF's schedule recruits better than everyone in the Pac 12 not named USC. As far as scheme I don't think Xs and Os are the problem, I would maybe be worried about an overemphasis on running vs. passing though. The great college offenses don't really trick teams with Xs and Os, they execute in a context where if the offense does it's job the defense is going to be wrong no matter what. Talent evaluation is a legitimate concern given what happened in Philly.
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I think a lot of the issues he had in the NFL can be fixed just because it’s way more viable to run your QB a lot in college for a variety of reason
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Lasagna Pilot posted:Talent evaluation is a legitimate concern given what happened in Philly.
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2007 Oregon would've played for the title had Dixon not gotten hurt. But I'm splitting hairs. Kelly would be a fine hire for Florida.
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It's a season without a slam-dunk hire. Kelly and Frost seem to be the best options out there. They might not be 2005 Meyer or 2007 Saban, but most coaches aren't.
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LLCoolJD posted:It's a season without a slam-dunk hire. Kelly and Frost seem to be the best options out there. They might not be 2005 Meyer or 2007 Saban, but most coaches aren't.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Kelly is about as close as it gets, frankly. Yeah, Kelly in college is definitely a slam dunk. If he were to fail at Florida it would be v surprising.
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