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Benne posted:Guys let's just ignore Allen struggling to move the ball against the mighty gauntlet of Mountain West defenses, he'll be great at the NFL level because uhhhh tools Lol goons thought Goff sucked
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warcrimes posted:Lol goons thought Goff sucked Everyone did, are you kidding me?
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warcrimes posted:Lol goons thought Goff sucked Having one of the worst rookie seasons of all time will do that to a guy's rep
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warcrimes posted:Lol goons thought Goff sucked Yes, just goons
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We all knew Jeff Fisher was a bad coach, but we all underestimated just how bad
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WHOOPS posted:Everyone did, are you kidding me? Yeah, no, not everyone 
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my grampa said just like how inanimate objects know enough never to change of their own will, constantly revising your opinions using new information is for The dumb rear end.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:We all knew Jeff Fisher was a bad coach, but we all underestimated just how bad In hindsight imagine how good Vince Young could have been!
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algebra testes posted:In hindsight imagine how good Vince Young could have been! I don't honestly believe he would have been all that good, but the man won rookie of the year while being coached by Jeff Fisher. For all we know he might have been the next Steve Young.
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Grittybeard posted:I don't honestly believe he would have been all that good, but the man won rookie of the year while being coached by Jeff Fisher. For all we know he might have been the next Steve Young. I just Googled vince Youngs rookie season and he completed like 50% of his passes and threw more ints than TDs. That must have been a rough year for rookies
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warcrimes posted:Lol goons thought Goff sucked Knee jerk lovely goons thought he was a bad prospect. I also thought he played bad, but not that he was a bad prospect.
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Doltos posted:Knee jerk lovely goons thought he was a bad prospect. I also thought he played bad, but not that he was a bad prospect. I stayed hopeful about Goff turning things around after last year solely because I was really enamored with him as a prospect and didn't want to be wrong about that.
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Zerilan posted:I stayed hopeful about Goff turning things around after last year solely because I was really enamored with him as a prospect and didn't want to be wrong about that. Yeah that's why I'm usually super forgiving of guys that other people think suck, just because I regarded them highly coming out of college. Inversely, it's why I think a lot of guys that people think are good actually suck cus they sucked in college and I'm just waiting for them to fizzle (COME ON KEANU NEAL, YOU KNOW YOU AREN'T THIS GOOD)
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warcrimes posted:Lol goons thought Goff sucked I don't think ANYONE expected Goff to have the level of success that he's had so far this year. He's going to be tested in Minnesota this week, though. That defense is no bullshit. I still think the Rams win by 10.
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People in general try to judge QBs way too quickly. Three or four good games in their first season and they’re gonna be a top 10 QB. That many bad games and they’re a bust.
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Benne posted:Having one of the worst rookie seasons of all time will do that to a guy's rep Jeff. Fisher.
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WinnebagoWarrior posted:I just Googled vince Youngs rookie season and he completed like 50% of his passes and threw more ints than TDs. That must have been a rough year for rookies I think that was when TOTAL COMBINED YARDS!!! Became a thing to hype up Reggie Bush more.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:People in general try to judge QBs way too quickly. Three or four good games in their first season and they’re gonna be a top 10 QB. That many bad games and they’re a bust. This is completely true with the caveat that I knew Mark Sanchez sucked before he ever took the field. People also judge WRs and CBs way too fast. They're the hardest positions to play outside of QB and it takes years for a either position to develop or become consistent.
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Is Bradley Chubb as good of a prospect as he appears to be? It seems like the Colts have a legitimate shot to get him, and it sure would be nice to have a top-level pass rusher again
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It wasn't even Jeff Fisher, look at all his offensive coordinators over the years 2012: Brian Schottenheimer 2013: Brian Schottenheimer 2014: Brian Schottenheimer 2015: Frank Cignetti(Fired Midseason), Rob Boras 2016: Rob Boras
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DariusLikewise posted:It wasn't even Jeff Fisher, look at all his offensive coordinators over the years AFAIK, Jeff Fisher was in charge of those hires.
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ShakeZula posted:Is Bradley Chubb as good of a prospect as he appears to be? It seems like the Colts have a legitimate shot to get him, and it sure would be nice to have a top-level pass rusher again He's all shoulder dips and run byes right now. He's just a massive dude that literally gets held on every single play so far this year because smaller o-line can't deal with him. I think he's a plodder and lacks the speed to get to a QB within the 2.7s that's common in the NFL now. Hell some QBs are even getting rid of it before 2.4s now and that means Chubb will probably need some good DBs on his team for coverage sacks. His best asset is that he's never tired. I see him plod down the field over and over and over again. Never faster, never slower. It's why he was able to beat McGlinchey and Hyatt a bunch this year. They were technically sound and better than him but he just kept pulling up tackles and even got a sack on McGlinchey. I'm just not sure where you put him at the next level.
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ShakeZula posted:Is Bradley Chubb as good of a prospect as he appears to be? It seems like the Colts have a legitimate shot to get him, and it sure would be nice to have a top-level pass rusher again He looks really good and has a hell of a personality. I don't think he's a Von Miller-like talent, but definitely a top 10 guy.
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https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/932018393456300032 I'm ... not convinced Darnold is an upgrade on Bort. Not that it matters since the Jags (probably) won't be drafting top-10 for once.
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No Butt Stuff posted:A very jags thing to not have a top 5 pick when there's a good qb on the board. 49ers will have a top three pick, and probably be perfectly willing to trade back. Just an idea.
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No Butt Stuff posted:A very jags thing to not have a top 5 pick when there's a good qb on the board. The Browns tho...
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Doltos posted:The Browns tho... With how badly the Texans are doing, the Browns will get 2 top 15 picks. It seems strange that they will foul that up. The Browns have a special talent.
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Coldforge posted:49ers will have a top three pick, and probably be perfectly willing to trade back. The Jets are gonna trade it all to pick Baker Mayfield, calling it now.
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So Doltos, any opinion on the DBs this year? I feel like Imam Marshall is so overated, I just haven't been impressed with him, Jack Jones seems like a stud
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The Glumslinger posted:So Doltos, any opinion on the DBs this year? Kinda weak this year for CBs at the top since there hasn't been a premier guy yet. Denzel Ward was getting talked up as a top guy but he might have to switch to free safety. He's a sticky coverage guy but doesn't really ball hawk as well as he could. Also considering how much Urban Meyer coaches that up means its a bit concerning that he's only ever gotten one pick. Tarvarus McFadden might switch to strong safety too. Colorados been torched by every half decent offense this year and Isaiah Oliver is part of that problem. He has great athleticism though. Quenton Meeks is creeping up the board. He's turning into an all around shut down corner at the collegiate level but there might be questions about his speed downfield. Jaire Alexander lost this season to injury but he was an all around machine for Louisville last year. Imam Marshall is freefalling down boards after starting off the season with McFadden as top 25 prospects. Falk and Rosen both picked him apart and he gave up like 200 something yards to Jordan Lasley. Joshua Jackson is the premier ballhawk after moving to the right side. Picked off Barrett three times. Might be the first off the board if he tests well.
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How’s the WR group look next year between mid 1st to mid 2nd? Bad as they need defense Dez isn’t elite anymore and Butler and Terrence are bad, Dallas may need to upgrade there.
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Based off my no-good opinion, Oklahoma State's James Washington is exactly the type of player Dallas needs. He would be a homerun in the second.
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Doltos posted:Knee jerk lovely goons thought he was a bad prospect. I also thought he played bad, but not that he was a bad prospect. Just Curious, how did you feel about Kizer?
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Tom Sellout posted:Based off my no-good opinion, Oklahoma State's James Washington is exactly the type of player Dallas needs. He would be a homerun in the second. but is his mother a prostitute?
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Flikken posted:Just Curious, how did you feel about Kizer? Here is last years thread https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3797562 quote:QBs:
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