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precision posted:it's been said before but if Henry doesn't go to a Minor Threat or Black Flag show in DC at some point then just smh We're far enough in the timeline now that he could be seeing like, Rites of Spring.
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Henchman of Santa posted:We're far enough in the timeline now that he could be seeing like, Rites of Spring.
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Where does Phillip get his pot from, that he smokes with his agents?
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Dennis McClaren posted:Where does Phillip get his pot from, that he smokes with his agents? Afghanistan 
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Awww yeah dat Afghani Kush
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Afghanistan Turns out the Americans were just trying to breed the dankest weed!
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Who does he pick up his Afghani Kush from? The girl that runs the telephones maybe... I'm on the 2nd to last episode of Season 4. My thoughts about Paige being useless and annoying have changed a little. I guess she realizes the consequences of having been a twat - but I'm sure she will still cause all this to fall apart. If I had a neighbor like Stan showing up all the time stealing my beer and eating all my food I would get a little tired of it.
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They live in DC. In DC, buying weed is literally as simple as going to a park and looking for the guy with dreds selling weed. Of which there are dozens. Especially in the 80s/90s. It's like NYC in that way.
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I could have sworn there was a scene where Gabriel gave him some weed, but I might have dreamt it.
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precision posted:They live in DC. In DC, buying weed is literally as simple as going to a park and looking for the guy with dreds selling weed. Of which there are dozens. Especially in the 80s/90s. It's like NYC in that way. once, i found a pack of cigs sitting on a wmata bus bench and inside was like, a surprising amount of weed
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maskenfreiheit posted:once, i found a pack of cigs sitting on a wmata bus bench and inside was like, a surprising amount of weed That was a trap. Have fun in jail.
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Cojawfee posted:That was a trap. Have fun in jail. Actually, that cigarette pack resulted in maskenfreiheit getting recruited by the KGB.
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dwarf74 posted:I could have sworn there was a scene where Gabriel gave him some weed, but I might have dreamt it.
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I've been watching the middle of Season 5 when they're investigating the Famine bugs and Liz is dating the scientist. Phillip called her out by saying "oh you really like him". She re-buffed him and gave her whole spiel about how he wants to starve a whole country and she has to listen to his poo poo... But then in the following ep. when he cooks her the exotic meal from Egypt and starts laying pipe in his new age bachelor pad, she looked - pleased? happy? I think she actually really liked the guy. Like she wanted to gently caress him because he was the total package and all that. So was she lying to Phillip when she said she didn't dig him? Or by the time she was sitting in his kitchen listening to him self-promote, was she already attracted to him then?
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A bit of both, I think. She didn't start out liking him, but in the end could see he was a good man and I'm sure it was a relief to find out he wasn't making a crop killer. Plus she was probably still salty over Martha. I could easily see it as her lying to Phil, though I think she was mostly telling the truth at that point.
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I think I interpreted it as she liked him, didn't want to, and didn't want to flout it in Phillip's face.
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Yeah, I like that reading best tbh. Even after the Martha stuff I think she loves Phil too much to hurt him-- especially the way he hurt her.
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esperterra posted:Yeah, I like that reading best tbh. Even after the Martha stuff I think she loves Phil too much to hurt him-- especially the way he hurt her. P&E have come a long way from the first episode. And it's all been believable and organic.
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It still pains me to think GoT has won writing emmys over this show. And for the not great GoT seasons.
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esperterra posted:It still pains me to think GoT has won writing emmys over this show. And for the not great GoT seasons. HBO probably sent out better goody bags
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iirc when the Battle of the Bastards episode (which was mostly a setpiece and directorial feat and not writing) won over Americans it was the first year for the new Emmy rules where a show's entire crew can now vote, or whatever. Considering GoT probably has the biggest production crew of any other show on tv .... gently caress I can't wait for GoT to end.
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esperterra posted:gently caress I can't wait for GoT to end.
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Finished season 5. I thought it was pretty good. I really liked how much they focused on Russia this season. I also appreciate the tying up of loose ends they’re already to do. This show has been strong throughout and it deserves a well planned and graceful ending.
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They released the title of the first episode of season six Dead Hand
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skooma512 posted:Finished season 5. Poor Oleg. Some people complained but I thought having the corruption side plot was cool. Liked it more than the main plot actually.
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Yeah, the expanded focus on Russia this past season was great.
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howe_sam posted:They released the title of the first episode of season six More bioweapon stuff? https://www.amazon.com/Dead-Hand-Un...L40_&dpSrc=srch
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maskenfreiheit posted:Poor Oleg. Some people complained but I thought having the corruption side plot was cool. Liked it more than the main plot actually. I kind of agree to the extent that I think it was good and there wasn't anything super gripping going on in the main plot that it was taking time away from (I thought the show in general was treading water for a lot of the season), but it still felt weird for the show to create a major disconnected side plot this late in the series. Maybe it'll connect back again next season and everything from last season will pay off when viewed as part of a giant concluding arc, but as an individual season I think it was kind of dull. There was a season of Mad Men that felt like this for me too, so I think there just comes a time when even great shows start feeling repetitive and tired, and need the momentum of wrapping things up to get back on track. Maybe knowing ahead of time that they had two seasons to fill wasn't a good thing. The penultimate season of The Shield felt this way too, and that show's ending was probably its best part, so I'm hoping for something like that here.
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Oleg was fantastic and his plot was deffo the best part of S5 for me. I hope that guy gets a lot of work in the future. He should be a Bond villain, or maybe Bond's BFF who works on the "other side".
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I’m not only ok with the show taking side trips seemingly just for the sake of showing more situations and slices of life from the time, i think it’s one of the things that makes the show great. Like Mischa; even if that never amounts to anything (which would disappoint for sure) the story of his illegal border crossing and the intense portrayal of his vulnerability and fear throughout were great in their own right. That was a reality a lot of people lived, and the show is richer for it. It also leaves uncertainty about resolution; there’s way too many B plots for them all to tie off nicely, which leaves the show’s outcome wide open. For example, Sons Of Anarchy tied up practically every single loose end in the show, which while satisfying, made the last two or three episodes feel like a foregone conclusion.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:I’m not only ok with the show taking side trips seemingly just for the sake of showing more situations and slices of life from the time, i think it’s one of the things that makes the show great. Like Mischa; even if that never amounts to anything (which would disappoint for sure) the story of his illegal border crossing and the intense portrayal of his vulnerability and fear throughout were great in their own right. That was a reality a lot of people lived, and the show is richer for it. Agreed. I *like* it when media doesn't have nicely tied up, Hollywood endings, freeze frame on everybody laughing. It's also thematically appropriate for both the Cold War, and the Soviet Union at the time; Mischa goes through all this trouble, effort, pain, heartache, and it's simply thrown away by a bureaucrat because it's inconvenient. Same with Nina's Adventures in the Gulag; she failed in her appointed role, so she's simply cast in a new role by the uncaring bureaucracy, who don't particularly care if she wants to, or even can; if she performs, she's rewarded, if she doesn't, she's cast aside and no loss to the State. They'll just try with somebody else, or try something else, whatever. That said, I don't doubt that Mischa will wind up being a Chekov's Son of sorts. I'm really looking forward to the final season.
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TheCenturion posted:Agreed. I *like* it when media doesn't have nicely tied up, Hollywood endings, freeze frame on everybody laughing. It's also thematically appropriate for both the Cold War, and the Soviet Union at the time; Mischa goes through all this trouble, effort, pain, heartache, and it's simply thrown away by a bureaucrat because it's inconvenient. Same with Nina's Adventures in the Gulag; she failed in her appointed role, so she's simply cast in a new role by the uncaring bureaucracy, who don't particularly care if she wants to, or even can; if she performs, she's rewarded, if she doesn't, she's cast aside and no loss to the State. They'll just try with somebody else, or try something else, whatever. Nina was actually a traitor, so she wasn't really just some cog caught in the machinery of state. Mischa was actively endangering a major undercover operation too, to be fair, which goes a bit beyond being inconvenient.
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Sinteres posted:Nina was actually a traitor, so she wasn't really just some cog caught in the machinery of state. Mischa was actively endangering a major undercover operation too, to be fair, which goes a bit beyond being inconvenient. On the other hand, you've got Oleg; he's nomenklatura, so in the glorious workers paradise, where all are equal and all serve the State, the KGB needs to get his permission to follow up on treason charges against him, where Nina just gets a bullet.
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TheCenturion posted:Mischa was actively endangering an operation, sure, but the State had no problem flying Elizabeth and Paige all the way to the DDR to visit family; they could have made Mischa work if they'd wanted to. "Oh yeah, we're hosting a foreign exchange student." Something. Mischa would need some polishing up to avoid setting off Stan's spider sense though and he would dig. I suppose that could be part of the plot/tension, but I could not see 'The Center' risking that.
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Expired Vitamin posted:Mischa would need some polishing up to avoid setting off Stan's spider sense though and he would dig. I suppose that could be part of the plot/tension, but I could not see 'The Center' risking that. So they set him up three states away and Philip gets to go visit him once a month. No, iirc, it wasn’t just the practical issues, it was not wanting Philip distracted.
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TheCenturion posted:No, iirc, it wasn’t just the practical issues, it was not wanting Philip distracted. I agree with that too. They have cast him as the shakey one from the start and, before he left, Gabriel said that once the center starts to worry they never stop. The practical considerations are pretty significant too though. They would have to commit fairly significant resources to managing him three states away or whatever since he was not culturally inoculated for exposure to the west.
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Expired Vitamin posted:I agree with that too. They have cast him as the shakey one from the start and, before he left, Gabriel said that once the center starts to worry they never stop. The practical considerations are pretty significant too though. They would have to commit fairly significant resources to managing him three states away or whatever since he was not culturally inoculated for exposure to the west. And they would absolutely do that, if they thought the net benefit would outweigh the cost. They don't think the benefit would outweigh the cost, so they simply disappear Mischa. If it wasn't for the fact that Philip would eventually find out, and possibly the direct intercession of Gabriel, they'd probably have just had Mishca have an 'accident' and been done with it. Remember, this is the organization that had an 'aunt' or 'grandmother' or whatever it was, in place, with fully furnished house and legend, on the off chance one of the kids got curious.
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Big thread bump to dump feelings and throw my opinions into the pot way too late: Watched season as it aired for the first 6 episodes, got bored, finally came back to it over the last month.
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