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Anonymous Zebra posted:I walked out thinking the best scene in the movie was in the dead middle where the Justice League has to do battle with a confused friend and the Flash has a neat moment involving something happening in slow-mo while the faint strings of a certain 1980's movie soundtrack plays. It turns out lots of people liked this scene, and honestly the whole loving movie should have been the plot point I'm hinting at spread across the entire 2 hour run time.. That was apparently Snyder and the Beavis Crew's original plan
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Didn't Superman have a beard when he was revived in the comics? Or was that a mullet? Mullet. There was no excuse not to have mullet Superman with really long fingernails in this.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Mullet. There was no excuse not to have mullet Superman with really long fingernails in this. Cavill had a no long nail clause for the filming of Mission Impossible 6
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Inescapable Duck posted:And that doesn't make it sensible. A lot of businesses have massively unrealistic expectations for profit projections and usually blame something completely random when it inevitably isn't the record-breaker they expect. It's perfectly sensible; I'd say it's downright essential. This is a competitive market, so if your blockbuster makes back twice its budget but Disney's makes back quintuple its budget, then their market value will improve that much more than your own, making you lag further behind. That's a very real threat when a company like Disney is absolutely devouring every company in sight; they're rumors Disney's looking into acquiring 20th Century Fox, for goodness' sake. It's more than just simple greed going on here, it's more like several different competing kinds of greed with threatened pride on top.
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In other words, a phony dick measuring contest.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:In other words, a phony dick measuring contest. 
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Why didn't they just let Superman have facial hair instead of CG-ing his mustache off, like nothing about that situation makes sense to me Also lol at Batman's Disappearing Widow's Peak
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precision posted:Why didn't they just let Superman have facial hair instead of CG-ing his mustache off, like nothing about that situation makes sense to me One reason is probably the various execs having ridiculous creative control to approve looks based on market surveys, their own gut, and other junk. Another is probably because of all the already made tie-in merchandise using promotional images of smooth-lipped Supes.
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Apparently it was also something of a dick-waving contest between WB and I guess Paramount. Paramount won because of Cavill's contract status.
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WB also needed this movie to be out by November for reasons. So any changes made had to be made fast. Apparently the CG for the movie was on a tight time-table even when only looking at the Synder material. Even some of the late early-screeners were seeing Doomsday as a stand in for Steppenwulf because the CG for the latter was not done yet. The new shoots were also so rushed that Gal Gadot didn't even appear in some of the scenes where people are talking to Wonder Woman. Instead they used her stunt double and you can actually see it if you look really hard. Whedon tried to get around actor limitations by using green screening and inserting actors back into scenes in post. I leave it up to the viewer on whether this works or not. Just don't look too closely at the background in any scenes involving involving Aquaman. Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Nov 19, 2017 |
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I'd rather watch Buckaroo Banzai if in the mood for rushed ad-hoc movies
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I'm sorry for chain-posting about this movie, but I'm reading up on who did what scene and apparently some of the Aquaman scenes are directed by James Wan and were taken from the set of the Aquaman movie. So apparently there was three directorial visions in this movie and I'm not a weirdo for thinking some of Aquaman's scenes were off putting for some reason.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:I'm sorry for chain-posting about this movie, but I'm reading up on who did what scene and apparently some of the Aquaman scenes are directed by James Wan and were taken from the set of the Aquaman movie. So apparently there was three directorial visions in this movie and I'm not a weirdo for thinking some of Aquaman's scenes were off putting for some reason. That's just your attraction to Jason Momoa coming through
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Inescapable Duck posted:As came up earlier in the thread, they still managed to diverge the plot significantly from the games, albeit probably for the better. Once again SNK points the way.     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryKX-fwBXfo
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I can't believe his name is actually loving Steppenwolf, I thought that was just RLM making a dumb joke.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:I can't believe his name is actually loving Steppenwolf, I thought that was just RLM making a dumb joke. Jack Kirby came up with some very funky names for the baddies in New Gods. You've got Darkseid, DeSaad, Granny Goodness, the Deep Six, the Female Furies, it's nuts. I mean they could have chosen Kalibak but he's really tied to Orion's story, and without that connection he's basically just a big hulking monster guy. Steppenwolf makes sense as sort of a scout or forerunner (the name is basically German for "coyote"), but yeah, even when he appeared in comics there was already the band of the same name and the Steppenwolf theater and so on.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Jack Kirby came up with some very funky names for the baddies in New Gods. You've got Darkseid, DeSaad, Granny Goodness, the Deep Six, the Female Furies, it's nuts. I was pleased to see Jack Kirby get a big shout out in the credits for JL.
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I really would love to see a New Gods standalone movie but man it'd be hard to pull off. You'd have to have Baz Luhrmann directing it or something.
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Zack Synder had clear ideas for the New Gods in SvB and I want to see his take, I do not think his vision was realized in Justice League
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WB/DC's problem is trying to play catch up instead of realizing what they have on their hands. They're already doing supposedly doing Darkseid for JL 2. With The News Gods, you've got a Shakespearean Space Opera. It could be their version on Star Wars. The comics were the same way. When they did the New 52, the first story ark in the JLA comic was JLA Vs Darkseid. I mean, where do you go after that?
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Maxwell Lord posted:I really would love to see a New Gods standalone movie but man it'd be hard to pull off. You'd have to have Baz Luhrmann directing it or something. Or Tarsem.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Or Tarsem.
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Davros1 posted:WB/DC's problem is trying to play catch up instead of realizing what they have on their hands. They're already doing supposedly doing Darkseid for JL 2. With The News Gods, you've got a Shakespearean Space Opera. It could be their version on Star Wars. It doesn't help that ever since it came out that WB were kicking off Wonder Woman writers and directors that they've been burning off credibility as 'the experimental comic movies that let the directors do what they want' that they tried cultivating with MoS and BvS. It only got worse with Suicide Squad and now this. The comics suffer from the issue of playing super conservative with risks when new ideas don't immediately pay off. Also that Geoff Johns is obsessed with "his" DC heroes. IMO even if Snyder was given all the freedom in the world, I'm not sure if he would have done New Gods' justice simply because they're a little more complicated than the angel/demon symbology he was going for.
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The MSJ posted:Tarsem is also kinda similar in style to Snyder. Yeah, I think it was HUNDU that called Immortals the unofficial sequel to 300. With Baz we'd get a lavish musical sequence though.
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wyoming posted:Yeah, I think it was HUNDU that called Immortals the unofficial sequel to 300. IIRC it was even initially announced as a semi-sequel/spinoff. Maybe I'm misremembering. Pigbuster posted:It's perfectly sensible; I'd say it's downright essential. This is a competitive market, so if your blockbuster makes back twice its budget but Disney's makes back quintuple its budget, then their market value will improve that much more than your own, making you lag further behind. That's a very real threat when a company like Disney is absolutely devouring every company in sight; they're rumors Disney's looking into acquiring 20th Century Fox, for goodness' sake. It's more than just simple greed going on here, it's more like several different competing kinds of greed with threatened pride on top. Fair point.
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Awww, now we won't ever hear what Manson thinks of Tarantino's next movie (which is now at Sony after the whole Harvey Weinstein thing).
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A hypothetical Tarsem New Gods would lose Eiko Ishioka, who I imagine accounts for at least half of the visual flair of Tarsem's movies. I imagine costuming is going to be VERY important.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I really would love to see a New Gods standalone movie but man it'd be hard to pull off. You'd have to have Baz Luhrmann directing it or something. Having watched it this weekend, Thor: Ragnarok pulled off that Kirby aesthetic perfectly, although there was a lot of Moebius in there too.
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GrandpaPants posted:A hypothetical Tarsem New Gods would lose Eiko Ishioka, who I imagine accounts for at least half of the visual flair of Tarsem's movies. I imagine costuming is going to be VERY important. RIP, the whole world is poorer for losing her.
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Young Freud posted:Having watched it this weekend, Thor: Ragnarok pulled off that Kirby aesthetic perfectly, although there was a lot of Moebius in there too. It was really hard not to compare this movie to Thor: Ragnarok. Both movies had weak main villains, both movies had flashbacks to an age of heroes, both had our heroes fighting each other, and both tried really hard to be funny. It's unbelievable how much better Thor worked on all those fronts. EDIT: The Wonder Woman movie also had a good plot dump to an age of heroes, but unlike this movie it was portrayed as a storybook and used highly stylized art, while this movie tried to show it and it kind of looked like it was ripping off LotR of all things. Anonymous Zebra fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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Young Freud posted:Having watched it this weekend, Thor: Ragnarok pulled off that Kirby aesthetic perfectly, although there was a lot of Moebius in there too. There was a hell of a Chris Foss influence, too.
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The Shaft reboot has Alexandra Shipp, Samuel L. Jackson, Richard Roundtree, and Jesse T. Usher, so it's like three generations of Shafts https://deadline.com/2017/11/alexandra-shipp-shaft-remake-samuel-l-jackson-richard-roundtree-tim-story-1202212577/
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There is going to be another Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai according to RZAquote:“Jim Jarmusch, my good buddy, and Forest Whitaker, have both signed on with me and another writer named Dallas Jackson, to executive producer another ‘Ghost Dog.’ And we already have something written. So maybe ‘Ghost Dog’ will make its way back to the silver screen, or small screen,” https://theplaylist.net/ghost-dog-sequel-works-20171120/
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Forrest is going to be an actual ghost this time
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so down for another Ghost Dog, still one of my all-time loving faves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFMY4jJ6SVE
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The MSJ posted:Tarsem is also kinda similar in style to Snyder. They also both graduated from the Art Center College of Design in the same class. They literally developed their styles together.
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muscles like this! posted:I assume this far out he'd play the mentor character. That'd be dope if they got the kid actor to come back and be Ghost Dog jr. to Forrest Whitaker's old dog sensei.
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