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Issa was super close last time. Less than 2k votes.
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Nov 11, 2017 03:34
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someone please get rid of ken calvert holy poo poo this guy sucks
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Nov 11, 2017 03:41
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Instant Sunrise posted:Eight. Forgetting
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Zwabu posted:How many GOP congressional seats could potentially be flipped R to D in 2018 in California alone? Rorbacher and Nunes have both been caught up in the Mueller investigation and could be uniquely vulnerable if that breaks wide and Hunter and Issa are notorious shitheads, but, as always, it depends on the priorities of the state and local democrats to actually field and support viable candidates against them. The San Diego Dems have fielded nothing but sacrificial lambs in Duncan Jr's district since his dad got elected and I'm not sure there's anything on Earth that could get them to start campaigning seriously in East County, even if he did use his campaign account as a personal slush fund. Issa is a much better shot, but a lot of the local activists may be busy playing defence for Scott Peters next door. Scott's a good guy, but he's been a bit of a double-edged sword for SD democrats because his supporters are loving obsessed with him and last year every single lefty group in the county seemed to have a few people there who just couldn't shut up about that race. The county Democratic infrastructure seems to focus on one race at a time to the exclusion of all else and that race is usually in the northwestern part of the county where most of the prominent activists and rich liberal donors live. If they rally around someone like Doug Applegate and Issa's seat becomes The Only Race That Matters, then he's in trouble, but we're also slated to have two contentious County Supervisor's races for Horn and Roberts' vacant seats in the same region. The race for Roberts' seat will include Nathan Fletcher's third attempt to prove that he's totally a Democrat now and people will definitely vote for him. His wife, Lorena Gonzales Fletcher (aka the legislator who just broke SANDAG), is incredibly powerful in the county party and popular with the activists (for reasons that escape me) and the would-be power couple have been busily barnstorming all the Democratic clubs to undermine the real Democrat in the race (Lori Saldana is a friend, so I'm biased) and the whole thing has the makings of a complete poo poo show. I don't know where the multi-tasking averse SD Dems will direct their energy, but I'm reasonably sure it won't be East County.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Eight. I still cant believe car-thief-issa has lasted this long. loving garbage OC. https://www.salon.com/2013/06/04/the_farce_that_is_darrell_issa/ quote:Issa financed the recall, and hoped to run for governor himself, but then the Los Angeles Times and other California papers began reporting on his earlier legal troubles. There was particular attention to his indictment for grand theft when he reported his Mercedes stolen after his brother William sold it; William had earlier obtained the right to do so from his brother. The two men had different stories for a while, and authorities believed they’d conspired to sell the car, report a “theft” and collect insurance on it. Apparently worth 450 million after all the scams and congressional favors. https://www.npr.org/2012/04/16/150739985/house-investigator-issa-has-faced-allegations-as-well quote:Issa made his fortune building and selling Viper car alarms. He is the wealthiest member of Congress, worth as much as $450 million. In fact, it's Issa's voice on the popular alarm's signature warning to would-be thieves: "Protected by Viper. Stand back."
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Nov 11, 2017 09:22
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Issa is considered dead man walking as far as reelection
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Nov 15, 2017 19:11
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Jaxyon posted:Issa is considered dead man walking as far as reelection I'm surprised he hasn't tried to retire and save face so he has a better resume for all those sweet sweet consulting and lobbying gigs.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:16
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Instant Sunrise posted:I'm surprised he hasn't tried to retire and save face so he has a better resume for all those sweet sweet consulting and lobbying gigs.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:20
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My local political group has utterly ignored the Dems and we are ready to bathe in Issa's blood, he's so hosed
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FCKGW posted:someone please get rid of ken calvert holy poo poo this guy sucks Yeah please kick this worthless sack of poo poo out on his rear end, for the love of all that is holy.
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Nov 17, 2017 23:25
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One nice thing is that Ro Khanna turned out to be ok, at least on foreign policy
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Ro Khanna is actually really good
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Yeah please kick this worthless sack of poo poo out on his rear end, for the love of all that is holy. Amen
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Bodhidharma posted:Ro Khanna is actually really good I remember him being billed as a “business friendly” technocrat during the campaign, but I gotta give him props on Yemen and Saudi Arabia
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Nov 19, 2017 04:36
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Leperflesh posted:The majority of personal bankruptcies in the US are medical bankruptcies. And the most tragic part is that typically when one person is facing a hundred thousand dollars in bills for their hospitlization after an accident, or their cancer treatment or whatever, those bills come spread out over months or years, and their entire families wipe out their savings and sell their homes etc. and all go down in flames and only declare bankruptcy once nobody can pay anything any more. Fag Learn to sAny less with mezzo (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 19, 2017 06:00
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cumshitter posted:Fag I really hope you don't live in California
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Re: the anti-homeless stuff - other states have been caught literally dumping their homeless on us already, we might as well help them because they're ending up here one way or another
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Nov 19, 2017 09:20
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Nunes isn’t going anywhere, Tulare County is red as gently caress and his district manages to miss most of Fresno so it’s entirely suburban & rural.
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It does have part of Fresno. Just, the northern part. The same part that gave us Steve Brandau, that absolute fucker (relevant to the anti-homeless talk, since he's responsible for a city council thing here to pretty much make homelessness illegal), plus Fresno State and I think Clovis. So, yeah. He's more likely to go from being caught in Mueller's investigation than he is to get voted out, sad to say. I hope Valadao gets axed at least. And that some of the local state-level Republicans, like Patterson and Berryhill, have challengers, since they really need some but strangely have been spared that, but I don't know of anyone announcing against them yet.
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Alexander Hamilton posted:Nunes isn’t going anywhere, Tulare County is red as gently caress and his district manages to miss most of Fresno so it’s entirely suburban & rural. That being said, I found out from a family member the other day that the Long Island district where she lives, which is one of the reddest voting areas in New York, recently voted in a democratic supervisor (for this first time in 30+ years). So hey, anything's possible now? 
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Tarezax posted:Re: the anti-homeless stuff - other states have been caught literally dumping their homeless on us already, we might as well help them because they're ending up here one way or another Lol, pretty sure there are better things for California to be doing with its budget than subsidizing the homeless program of every other state that would rather buy them Greyhound tickets, even if we could afford it (cue chorus of, "But if we just appropriate all of Peter Thiel's money...") That's not even touching the fact that we're going to have to get a lot more parsimonious with our social services if we want to have demand driven single payer health care.
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:I remember him being billed as a “business friendly” technocrat during the campaign, but I gotta give him props on Yemen and Saudi Arabia I was skeptical of Ro Khanna at first because he ousted Mike Honda, who was a solidly liberal congressman, but he's gained my support within the last year. Khanna supports some really progressive legislation like John Conyer's HR 676 Medicare For All Bill as well as the Social Security 2100 Act, which would expand Social Security benefits rather than cut them. Ro Khanna recently introduced a bill titled the Corporate Responsibility and Taxpayer Protection Act of 2017, which taxes large corporations who do not pay their employees a living wage. I also admire that he did the right thing and endorsed Kevin de Leon over Dianne Feinstein for the 2018 Senate race.
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Genuine curiosity here: what does, for instance, Canada do to prevent these theoretical healthcare leeches from establishing residence and getting FREE DIALYSIS?
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Genuine curiosity here: what does, for instance, Canada do to prevent these theoretical healthcare leeches from establishing residence and getting FREE DIALYSIS? Being a sovereign nation state with an actual immigration process rather than being an administrative subdivision of a larger country? Getting citizenship in Canada is neither free nor easy nor guaranteed, and takes upwards of 12 months. People with kidney disease who can't afford treatment probably don't have the resources to navigate that process successfully. Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Genuine curiosity here: what does, for instance, Canada do to prevent these theoretical healthcare leeches from establishing residence and getting FREE DIALYSIS? It’s a lot harder to legally move from the US to Canada than from Texas to CA.
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Another indirect (delayed) actor on imigration: http://beta.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-birth-tourism-persists-20161220-story.html quote:And in America's Chinese enclaves, they find a cottage industry of Chinese midwives, drivers and doctors who accept cash and "maternity hotels" — apartments or homes run as hotels for the women during their pregnancies. Lol. quote:The same year that authorities cracked down on birth tourism, "Finding Mr. Right," a dramatization of a Chinese mother's trip to Seattle to give birth, grossed $82 million in China, the ninth-highest-earning domestic film that year.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Being a sovereign nation state with an actual immigration process rather than being an administrative subdivision of a larger country? Getting citizenship in Canada is neither free nor easy nor guaranteed, and takes upwards of 12 months. Something I'm much more curious about : How did Saskatchewan prevent non-resident Canadians from taking advantage of them in the beginning?
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'Theoretical healthcare leeches' is also a pretty silly and  phrase. That making healthcare free would lead to sick people with super expensive conditions moving to CA is hardly theoretical and the point is that you need to account for this and set up residency requirements or pay for it. The real debate is how much that sort of thing would cost and often it is significantly underestimated by activist groups who really want single payer legislation passed for obvious reasons; when you look at states that have put a more realistic pricetag on single payer it has been soundly rejected. This is not unlike the larger debate over the individual mandate. You need to limit or eliminate the ability for people to game the system and take benefits while never making contributions or place significant hurdles to people getting care. If you don't your insurance company will go bankrupt or your healthcare system will have costs that spiral out of control. It would be darkly humerous to see insurance companies in poor red states exploit non-existent or easy-to-get-around residency requirements and flying people to california for the weekend to have their procedures done on the CA taxpayers dime all the while saying how great their new trumpcare is.
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Lycus posted:Something I'm much more curious about : How did Saskatchewan prevent non-resident Canadians from taking advantage of them in the beginning?  tsa posted:That making healthcare free would lead to sick people with super expensive conditions moving to CA is hardly theoretical and the point is that you need to account for this and set up residency requirements or pay for it. Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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Lycus posted:Something I'm much more curious about : How did Saskatchewan prevent non-resident Canadians from taking advantage of them in the beginning? It's hard to really make this comparison because so much has changed from the 1950s to now both in medicine and in other areas (the cost of travel was extremely prohibitive for poor people until fairly recently and most would not even have the means to take advantage of it). But more importantly the cost of medicine has skyrocketed, particularity at the upper extremes (all healthcare is generally more expensive after adjusting for inflation, but the top deciles are wayyy more expensive). More to the point of your question : there was a 6 month residency requirement and something about taxes but also it spread very quickly in canada because that sort of setup already had significant public approval and the opposition was a lot more muted. The problem in the US is that you could have a situation where half the country has very bad healthcare for the foreseeable future and there will be strong incentives to game the differences.
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Dead Reckoning posted:But if we just appropriate all of Peter Thiel's money...  Housing and food for Americans is a better use of money than gaudy-rear end mansions and quack fountain-of-youth treatments for aging investors. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:illegals As always, gently caress off forever, Dead Reckoning. Edit: Also, from the bill: quote:(x) “Resident” means an individual whose primary place of abode is in the state, without regard to the individual’s immigration status. So double gently caress off. CPColin fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Nov 20, 2017 |
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VitalSigns posted:Housing and food for Americans is a better use of money than gaudy-rear end mansions and quack fountain-of-youth treatments for aging investors. This is down the list of Peter Thiel's sins and also somewhat off-topic I suppose, but there are so many better ways he could go about funding anti-aging/age-mitigation research (an actual worthwhile subject) than he does. But capitalistic vampirism is his nature, I suppose.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Being a sovereign nation state with an actual immigration process rather than being an administrative subdivision of a larger country? Fair enough, but also no one likes you tsa posted:'Theoretical healthcare leeches' is also a pretty silly and It's entirely theoretical because single payer healthcare doesn't exist yet in California, you dweeb
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CPColin posted:As always, gently caress off forever, Dead Reckoning. What non-euphimistic term would you prefer I use in the future to refer to people who are in the country illegally? CPColin posted:Edit: Also, from the bill: The Wiggly Wizard posted:Fair enough, but also no one likes you 
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Dead Reckoning posted:What non-euphimistic term would you prefer I use in the future to refer to people who are in the country illegally? the word is euphemism, you ignorant, slur-slinging gently caress
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Dead Reckoning posted:People who are unlawful residents should not receive benefits reserved to residents. Why not. They work, they pay taxes, as long as they've been living in the state for a minimum length of time I don't see why they shouldn't get the same benefits from paying their state and local taxes that anyone else does. If you're not gonna send the feds down to ask for everyone's papers and bust down doors looking for people to deport, then I don't see why they shouldn't be treated like any other human being who lives in the state, because creating an underclass with no rights or social support is bad for society yo.
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Dead Reckoning posted:What non-euphimistic term would you prefer I use in the future to refer to people who are in the country illegally? Obviously, I would prefer you use no term at all, because you are no longer posting in this thread, but "undocumented immigrant" would be okay. "Illegal alien" is more loaded, but still better than dehumanizing people with "illegals," you obtuse shithead. Dead Reckoning posted:People who are unlawful residents should not receive benefits reserved to residents. The authors of the bill disagree and so do I. Healthcare is a basic human right and I'm tired of compromising on the subject with assholes like you.
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stone cold posted:the word is euphemism, you ignorant, slur-slinging gently caress VitalSigns posted:Why not. VitalSigns posted:If you're not gonna send the feds down to ask for everyone's papers and bust down doors looking for people to deport, then I don't see why they shouldn't be treated like any other human being who lives in the state, because creating an underclass with no rights or social support is bad for society yo.
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