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sponges
Sep 15, 2011

Blazing Ownager has a reg date of 2007 so at the very least he's in his mid 30's and yet he's posting like a teenage troll and for that I salute him

Just kidding, you're a loving loser BO.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Blazing Ownager posted:

You can FOLLOW The Happening, it doesn't mean it's not dumb as gently caress.

Something can be dumb as gently caress but still own. Got em.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Blazing Ownager posted:

I bet those people who wrote those papers would tell anyone suggesting Lex Luthor was a good fictional representation of those conditions they would tell you to gently caress yourself.

So I work at a psychodynamic psychotherapy training institute and this is making me want to do a case presentation on BvS Lex Luthor. I don't think BO would give me credit if it was well-received though :(

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Codependent Poster posted:

What you see in Thor Ragnarok is a lot of ideas coming from the actor and director and Marvel being like "sure, go for it." I believe they said it was Hemsworth who suggested Thor losing his hair and hammer. They let Waititi make make it much more comedic and left all the other things up to him.

This was much smarter than keeping with what they were doing, which was semi-successful, but not blowing anyone away. I don't think they get enough credit for what they've done with their later movies in having the directors and actors give input and put their own twist on things.

I think they really should have ditched the darker parts of the script, since the comedic elements Waititi put in there is better, but I guess they needed Asgard to be blown up to put Thor where he needs to be in Infinity War.

And since Whedon is not making Infinity War, at the very least the events of Ragnarok will actually matter in that movie.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

Blazing Ownager posted:

There's a difference between being befuddled or not following something, and following it just fine and realizing it is full of absolutely horse poo poo, leading to stupid conclusions.

You can FOLLOW The Happening, it doesn't mean it's not dumb as gently caress.

Right, you followed BvS so well, you assumed Lex thought Superman was actually god.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The talk about BvS reminds me of when people were confused about motivations and plans in the Nolan movies where nearly all the dialogue is people explicitly stating and elaborating on their motivations and plans.

Does having Batman in movies make people stop paying attention to dialogue that isn't 'BAM' and 'POW'?

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
We haven't had a nice pile-on like that since, I dunno, Tezzor? I feel like I should have a cigarette.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

Blazing Ownager posted:

Why. The gently caress. Was he doing. Anything.

Why do you post like you got rejected from writing for Cracked?

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
lol

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"


the fact that some people treat liking a movie that most people don't like as if you're shoving your dick inside a horse or something is hilarious. "i went and saw these people talking about a movie and get this - they liked it! what sort of crazed mad men like this movie that most people don't like? don't they know that broad public opinion says that it sucks? they must be lunatics."

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

this is a rough personality type to be saddled with

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

Blazing Ownager posted:

At least it's not tattooed across the head of my avatar

That can be fixed

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

Christ, Celticpredadtor is a a loving coward

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:




Magneto is left wing.


Doesn't he usually want to commit genocide for explicitly blood and soil reasons? How is that not right wing?

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




BvS had a bad plot that was full of things that didn't make sense together, and chopped all over the place so badly that it became impossible to follow. I hadn't seen any of the inspiration for the movie before seeing it, I don't read comics, so afterwards went and looked up DKR and a few other things. Suddenly I could see all these references that BvS, and Nolan's TDKR had used and shared, but where the latter carefully picked things that worked with each other and adjusted them to fit his plan, Snyder just seemed to just lift the visuals and abandon the context, leaving a series of things that didn't fit jammed together in a pile of nonsense.

BvS looked really pretty, but the plot was a dumpster fire.

hump day bitches!
Apr 3, 2011


-Medium Hot Take : The more I watch the Nolan batman movies the more I think they are overrated movies with zero subtlety. The whole final third of DKR is a dumpster fire.

hump day bitches! fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Nov 20, 2017

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

more like blazing self-ownager

e: oh i see the obvious joke has been made. it's me, i'm the blazing self-ownager.

sub supau fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Nov 20, 2017

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

sponges posted:

Christ, Celticpredadtor is a a loving coward

Lmao, sorry, I'll talk about how much I hate BvS and MOS over here so we can all do this little song and dance we've been doing for the past few years.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


sponges posted:

Christ, Celticpredadtor is a a loving coward

https://twitter.com/dril/status/247222360309121024

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


hump day bitches! posted:

-Medium Hot Take : The more I watch the Nolan batman movies the more I think they are overrated movies with zero subtlety. The whole final third of DKR is a dumpster fire.

They definitely have zero subtlety as far as basic themes, but they're also really funny and are still pretty much the only Batman story where Batman accomplishes or learns anything.

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games
I agree with BO.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






CelticPredator posted:

Lmao, sorry, I'll talk about how much I hate BvS and MOS over here so we can all do this little song and dance we've been doing for the past few years.

Right, detailed analysis of the films that puts the lie to many criticisms which can be coherently argued beyond personal taste is "this little song and dance", definitely not appealing to populist shitposting in the forums septic tank.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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hump day bitches! posted:

-Medium Hot Take : The more I watch the Nolan batman movies the more I think they are overrated movies with zero subtlety. The whole final third of DKR is a dumpster fire.

The final third of TDKR is where the film Nolan wanted to make starts to diverge from the film audiences wanted to see (TDK again).

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Burkion posted:

...you don't understand David Lynch movies?

I'm not joking, what are you talking about?

They're odd at times but they're not incomprehensible. Christ man, come on. I mean it seriously what the hell.


Jason X is not that complicated a narrative

People think the weird stuff is some kind of secret code to decipher in otherwise straightforward films, when really it's just Lynch likes to their in weird stuff cause the world is weird.

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Crisis on Infinite Subforums

Jutsuka
Jun 5, 2011

I think the biggest problem people have with not understanding Luthor's hatred of Superman is that Clark Kent is a white christian farm boy from Kansas instead of an Arab Muslim. I also think that's why so many people, predominantly white American males, have difficulties identifying with Snyder's Superman and consider him to be "too alien."

Jutsuka fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Nov 20, 2017

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007







This is brilliant, it's the forums equivalent of bitchy teenage girls gossiping only it's incredibly insecure nerds raging at another board and pretending that this makes them better.

Electromax
May 6, 2007
Maybe just ignore this guy already?

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

sponges posted:

You are dumb as gently caress Blazing Ownager

He's really not and he's making good points. I agree with him about BvS and Lynch. Mullholland Drive is one of the worst "it's so hosed up, it must be genius" films I've ever seen - weird for the sake of being weird - and it's loving horrible. See also, Eyes Wide Shut and, for that matter, Naked Lunch since someone brought up Videodrome.

I like weird movies and I enjoy being intellectually challenged but when art gets into "you're just not smart enough to get it" territory, I check out. It's like certain aspects of modern art where someone squirts toothpaste in a shot glass or puts different colored bowling balls in a fishtank filled with 7-Up and if I call bullshit, I'm the plebe.

I have had BvS explained to me, and I even got a lot of it. I just thought it was poorly conveyed and the movie loving sucked. People saying "it's all right there!" are basically calling the majority of people saying "I don't see it" stupid even when they clearly point out the problems they have.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
It's hilarious that Justice League chat got completely tapped out pretty much instantly so we went back to our roots and had a multi-page argument over BvS instead.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Hey, this time Snyder's done it so bad that we're throwing Lynch, Cronenberg and Kubrick in after him. We're mere posts away from someone making a derogatory reference to 'postmodernism', that being the act of making any film where the message isn't "let us have faith".

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Charlz Guybon posted:

Doesn't he usually want to commit genocide for explicitly blood and soil reasons? How is that not right wing?

He hated Nazis ergo: he is left wing I guess. It's loving stupid but that's the explanation apparently. Magneto is RW as gently caress; advocating for the master race, enlisting disaffected youth, brainwashing people and calling for mass genocide of "lesser" people.

Anxiously awaiting the thread's dissertation on how Doctor Doom is a democratic socialist and Galactus is a Ghandi metaphor.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Electromax posted:

Maybe just ignore this guy already?

I saw over 100 posts overnight and thought maybe there had been some actual comic news, like an Infinity War trailer or something. Nope. Just more of the same poo poo.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

It's hilarious that Justice League chat got completely tapped out pretty much instantly so we went back to our roots and had a multi-page argument over BvS instead.

Yeah...something about that movie, man. I guess to its credit it DOES spark intense debate, so that's something. It doesn't make it good but even I agree it's worthy of discussion and was at least interesting. Gummo was interesting but I'm not sure I'd say it was great.

JL looks to be about what the trailers suggested it would be and I can't say I'm surprised. I'm really interested to see where DC goes next to be honest, because I have no loving idea what I might try if I were in charge. I know we're getting Aquaman, Flash, WW2 and Shazam but I'm not sure what I'd DO with those properties to try and make sense of this mess.

Maybe do what the comics do and have Flash or someone just do a hard reset.

Serf
May 5, 2011


they should make a We3 movie, but like, do it right. just go all-in on an r-rating.

Jutsuka
Jun 5, 2011

BiggerBoat posted:

He's really not and he's making good points. I agree with him about BvS and Lynch. Mullholland Drive is one of the worst "it's so hosed up, it must be genius" films I've ever seen - weird for the sake of being weird - and it's loving horrible. See also, Eyes Wide Shut and, for that matter, Naked Lunch since someone brought up Videodrome.

I like weird movies and I enjoy being intellectually challenged but when art gets into "you're just not smart enough to get it" territory, I check out. It's like certain aspects of modern art where someone squirts toothpaste in a shot glass or puts different colored bowling balls in a fishtank filled with 7-Up and if I call bullshit, I'm the plebe.

I have had BvS explained to me, and I even got a lot of it. I just thought it was poorly conveyed and the movie loving sucked. People saying "it's all right there!" are basically calling the majority of people saying "I don't see it" stupid even when they clearly point out the problems they have.

You seem very insecure and defensive about others finding meaning in, and drawing enjoyment from, films you don't like.

thatbastardken
Apr 23, 2010

A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

BiggerBoat posted:

.

Anxiously awaiting the thread's dissertation on how Doctor Doom is a democratic socialist and Galactus is a Ghandi metaphor.

I mean...they're both famously hungry...

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Jutsuka posted:

You seem very insecure and defensive about others finding meaning in, and drawing enjoyment from, films you don't like.

I find it more fascinating that people get so defensive when someone says they didn't like BvS or MoS.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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It's absolutely fine if you didn't like MoS or BvS.

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Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

I posted this in the JL thread too.

Apparently DC co-publisher Jim Lee said JL is a “step in the right direction”. https://screenrant.com/jim-lee-justice-league-right-direction-dceu/

It’s interesting that in his Instagram post that he mentioned everyone except Affleck/Batman.

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