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Ugly In The Morning posted:Finally got to see John Wick 2, and in the scene where he's got the shotgun out, he fires 11 times without reloading. That seems like an oversight for a realistic movie, but Wick had a shell on the carrier for a ghost load. That's a decently obscure shooting technique, but of course a movie starring a ridiculously good 3-gun shooter would have it. I also really liked the sequence just before that: https://youtu.be/HsDV7nNftAM?t=2m22s At the beginning you see Wick reloading exactly four shells, and one of the mooks jumps out of frame into cover towards the right. Wick moves forward, and I still remember that when I was watching it for the first time, I was thinking "Wait, isn't there a guy still hiding at the right?". And yes, at that exact moment that guy we saw hiding earlier jumps out at Wick. Then Wick fires the last three shells, aims at the last guy, and at that moment I thought "Wait, shouldn't that gun be empty?". And of course that's exactly when he pulls the trigger and it goes click. It's a really effective framing that lets the viewers follow the action easily and guides their expectations towards what's about to happen. That entire shootout start to finish is full of really dense and fast sequences with lots of movement, but you never once feel lost as to what's going on.
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Perestroika posted:I also really liked the sequence just before that: https://youtu.be/HsDV7nNftAM?t=2m22s Yeah, the John Wick movies treat reloading as an actual part of the action sequence instead of just something they have to show so people don't bitch about realism. Having him pin the guy with the shotgun as he reloads was a great touch.
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Nov 18, 2017 23:57
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We had a pretty long thread in CD about JW2 and the crazy lengths the filmmakers went to over all the little details. Here's an interview with the director and stunt co-ordinator talking about things like how they spent months just messing around with mirrors in a rented warehouse blocking out the fight scene in the mirror maze. I also made some effort posts about the significance and the symbolism of the artworks that were prominently featured in the film.
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Nov 19, 2017 00:07
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I don't know how subtle it is but Justice League does a good job of addressing why Batman vs Superman ended the way it did (spoilers for both movies): At the end of BvS, Superman sacrifices himself to kill Doomsday by stabbing it with a kryptonite spear. A lot of people wondered why Wonder Woman couldn't have done it since she isn't, you know, affected by kryptonite, was standing right there and is usually portrayed to be in the same weight class as Superman, power-wise, or at least in the same ballpark. Justice League shows that she's not even close. JL's villain, Steppenwolf, can basically fight Flash, Aquaman, Batman, Cyborg and Wonder Woman to a stalemate but Superman runs him over like a freight train whenever he's not distracted saving civilians. Dianawouldn't even have gotten close to Doomsday or been strong enough to shove that spear through him.
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Polaron posted:I don't know how subtle it is but Justice League does a good job of addressing why Batman vs Superman ended the way it did (spoilers for both movies): At the end of BvS, Superman sacrifices himself to kill Doomsday by stabbing it with a kryptonite spear. A lot of people wondered why Wonder Woman couldn't have done it since she isn't, you know, affected by kryptonite, was standing right there and is usually portrayed to be in the same weight class as Superman, power-wise, or at least in the same ballpark. Justice League shows that she's not even close. JL's villain, Steppenwolf, can basically fight Flash, Aquaman, Batman, Cyborg and Wonder Woman to a stalemate but Superman runs him over like a freight train whenever he's not distracted saving civilians. Dianawouldn't even have gotten close to Doomsday or been strong enough to shove that spear through him. Nah, it’s lovely they short-change WW.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Nah, it’s lovely they short-change WW. Agreed considering in her movie she fights an actual loving god. Also Steppenwolf is defeated the first time by Zeus (and everyone I guess). So gods can’t take on Steppen and Diana can kill gods. JL is so bad.
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Nov 19, 2017 07:31
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Notably though she defeats Ares in her movie by redirecting his own power back at him with her bracers, and not through her own strength.
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Nov 19, 2017 07:33
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Now can someone explain how they kill Doomsday by pushing the spear already embedded in his chest through him, so the kryptonite is outside his body?
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Nov 19, 2017 11:00
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Because it was a poorly written movie?
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Because it's a King Arthur reference.
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Polaron posted:I don't know how subtle it is but Justice League does a good job of addressing why Batman vs Superman ended the way it did (spoilers for both movies): At the end of BvS, Superman sacrifices himself to kill Doomsday by stabbing it with a kryptonite spear. A lot of people wondered why Wonder Woman couldn't have done it since she isn't, you know, affected by kryptonite, was standing right there and is usually portrayed to be in the same weight class as Superman, power-wise, or at least in the same ballpark. Justice League shows that she's not even close. JL's villain, Steppenwolf, can basically fight Flash, Aquaman, Batman, Cyborg and Wonder Woman to a stalemate but Superman runs him over like a freight train whenever he's not distracted saving civilians. Dianawouldn't even have gotten close to Doomsday or been strong enough to shove that spear through him. Every character in every fictional work is precisely as powerful as they are depicted during any particular scene. A character being shat on in a particular scene isn't due to any particular statistics attached to some "real" or "true" version of the character; it's because some writer wanted to poo poo on that character.
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Nov 19, 2017 12:30
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Somfin posted:Every character in every fictional work is precisely as powerful as they are depicted during any particular scene. A character being shat on in a particular scene isn't due to any particular statistics attached to some "real" or "true" version of the character; it's because some writer wanted to poo poo on that character. Now thats entirely unfair. Sometimes it's because they want to inflate the importance of one instead.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:We had a pretty long thread in CD about JW2 and the crazy lengths the filmmakers went to over all the little details. Here's an interview with the director and stunt co-ordinator talking about things like how they spent months just messing around with mirrors in a rented warehouse blocking out the fight scene in the mirror maze. I'm reading through that thread now so I don't know if you mentioned it, but is there an explanation for why the sommelier is wearing this?
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Nov 19, 2017 14:33
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Praseodymi posted:I'm reading through that thread now so I don't know if you mentioned it, but is there an explanation for why the sommelier is wearing this? Well poo poo, that's ..... weird. From googling it seems that at least one other character in the movie was wearing it as well.
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Nov 19, 2017 14:46
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RagnarokAngel posted:Now thats entirely unfair. Do the comedy option some day - every superpowered hero in the group is taken out by the evil god, then the team's equivalent of Black Widow or Hawkeye beats the baddie.
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Nov 19, 2017 15:54
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BioEnchanted posted:Do the comedy option some day - every superpowered hero in the group is taken out by the evil god, then the team's equivalent of Black Widow or Hawkeye beats the baddie. That's Squirrel Girl's raison d'etre.
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Nov 19, 2017 18:29
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RagnarokAngel posted:Now thats entirely unfair. Yeah, when hes around for more than 2 scenes in the sequel he'll get his rear end handed to him along with everyone else.
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Was rewatching Riddick tonight and noticed that when they shot the dog with the tracking round, the console they used to follow its movements had options like "shock" and "detonate" on-screen, uses that are never touched on again in the movie. I really appreciate when movies have actual, seemingly functional UI and uses for their gadgets. Definitely adds to the world-building and immersion.
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FreshFeesh posted:Was rewatching Riddick tonight and noticed that when they shot the dog with the tracking round, the console they used to follow its movements had options like "shock" and "detonate" on-screen, uses that are never touched on again in the movie. Quantum of Solace has a great moment for this, when bond is spelling Dominic Greene's surname for his mates in HQ. He gets to "g....r....double e" and the fancy schmancy computer briefly flickers "grw" before switching to "gree". Very nice detail.
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Nov 20, 2017 12:57
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I animate a lot of mock-up UI for business presentations and stuff, and that kind of poo poo is my absolute jams. Tiny details like that make everything seem so much more grounded.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Well poo poo, that's ..... weird. Looking at it closely, it seems like maybe it's meant to evoke that image but without literally being the same(i.e. I think the swastika has been left out of the one in the movie, but I can't be 100% sure with the shots I'm seeing from a GIS). So maybe a way to subtly imply that this dude must have done some pretty bad poo poo to end up as the full-time sommelier of the Continental? It makes sense that the place would be full of mass murderers and war criminals, it's a club where the members are the most effective killers in the world.
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Aleph Null posted:That's Squirrel Girl's raison d'etre. Squirel girl once beat doctor doom by chewing through his power lines. 
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Agent355 posted:Squirel girl once beat doctor doom by chewing through his power lines. Hasn't squirrel girl beaten like every major baddie?
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Her superpower is being slightly stronger than her opponent, so I imagine she has.
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Basebf555 posted:Looking at it closely, it seems like maybe it's meant to evoke that image but without literally being the same(i.e. I think the swastika has been left out of the one in the movie, but I can't be 100% sure with the shots I'm seeing from a GIS). So maybe a way to subtly imply that this dude must have done some pretty bad poo poo to end up as the full-time sommelier of the Continental? It makes sense that the place would be full of mass murderers and war criminals, it's a club where the members are the most effective killers in the world. Antipartisan actions on the ostfront were probably a lot more hazardous in a world where everybody in nyc is an assassin. Suddenly stop and frisk seems like a good idea
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DandyLion posted:Hasn't squirrel girl beaten like every major baddie? She's beaten Thanos and Ultron for sure. And I think she once averted an attack by Galactus.
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Jedit posted:She's beaten Thanos and Ultron for sure. And I think she once averted an attack by Galactus. She's good buddies with Galactus and he gave her an open invitation to become his herald if she ever felt like it.
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Squirrel Girl sounds like the most ridiculous superhero in the best kind of way. It's like they realized how silly her gimmick is and thought gently caress it, let's go all out and make her the best ever.
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The important thing with Squirrel Girl is that her first tactic is to talk to the adversary in question and see why they're doing what they're doing and try to resolve the situation through constructive dialogue first. She's the best and it's legit one of Marvel's best books.
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Taeke posted:Squirrel Girl sounds like the most ridiculous superhero in the best kind of way. It's like they realized how silly her gimmick is and thought gently caress it, let's go all out and make her the best ever. Before her recent comic, she wasn't interesting at all. She was a joke character, but her joke wasn't funny. The new comic is really good though.
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at&t girl is playing her and I think that's really good
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All I've seen of her solo comic is really awful art.
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Aphrodite posted:Notably though she defeats Ares in her movie by redirecting his own power back at him with her bracers, and not through her own strength. Her bracers aren't actually magic. At least it was never mentioned in the movie. They seem to act more as a focus for her. Remember the whole point of the WW movie was she's the weapon, not the sword. Making it "her bracers defeated him" kind of undermines that.
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Something I like in Stranger than Fiction is how the characters reactions to the situation contrast incredibly sharply - the doomed character embraces his death with a deterministic perspective after realising that it is the perfect ending, not only to the story but to his very life, one that will never be surpassed, his goofy comical Ally coldly orders him to let things happen, acting like he has no personal stake, like he sees Harold as nothing more than a character without whom a great story will collapse and the author, distanced by her status as a hermit and otherwise cold and frustrated at her failure to kill him early in the movie has a massive existential breakdown when faced with the idea of actually killing someone, especially someone she has grown to personally like. I also like that she asks The Question - Has This Happened Before? How Many Times Have I Killed Someone? The contrast is key even in their conversation during the ending - when she admits that she couldn't go through with it, Jules Hilbert's reaction is to question that with "Because he's real?" with his tone implying that that isn't a good enough reason for him. It's a very interesting interplay.
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BioEnchanted posted:Something I like in Stranger than Fiction is how the characters reactions to the situation contrast incredibly sharply - the doomed character embraces his death with a deterministic perspective after realising that it is the perfect ending, not only to the story but to his very life, one that will never be surpassed, his goofy comical Ally coldly orders him to let things happen, acting like he has no personal stake, like he sees Harold as nothing more than a character without whom a great story will collapse and the author, distanced by her status as a hermit and otherwise cold and frustrated at her failure to kill him early in the movie has a massive existential breakdown when faced with the idea of actually killing someone, especially someone she has grown to personally like. I also like that she asks The Question - Has This Happened Before? How Many Times Have I Killed Someone? The contrast is key even in their conversation during the ending - when she admits that she couldn't go through with it, Jules Hilbert's reaction is to question that with "Because he's real?" with his tone implying that that isn't a good enough reason for him. One of my favorite movies. There's so much to analyze and so much subtle mastery built into the movie. Its also one of those mirrored movies I believe.
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How do you mean a Mirrored Movie? I've never heard of that term.
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BioEnchanted posted:How do you mean a Mirrored Movie? I've never heard of that term. I'm surely mislabeling it, but its where the first half of the scenes are played in reverse order in the second half (in a general fashion). For example, First scene of the movie opens with a shot of the watch ->last scene ends with a shot of the watch. Second scene a shot of the apple in front of bowler man painting, second to last scene shows him eating an apple dressed like the bowler hat man...etc.
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I'm pretty sure the term is chiastic structure and it's pretty cool.
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pogothemonkey0 posted:I'm pretty sure the term is chiastic structure and it's pretty cool. Awesome, I was looking for this term!
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