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If you want to browse the CMANO db but dont want to have to pay for it, you can always go down to your local college library and look at the paper copies.  
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wisemanofhyrule posted:If you want to browse the CMANO db but dont want to have to pay for it, you can always go down to your local college library and look at the paper copies. What's a library?
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Yooper posted:The choice becomes a few newer planes who can field the silver bullets, or a whole shitload of older packages that lack the gently caress-off BVR ranges? Each supplier will offer options. Some better than others. Of particular interest is the re-emergence of failed experimental packages. Good planes that simply weren't good enough to get made beyond the prototype. Well, it's hard to argue with R&D dollars, and now some of those planes are coming back. I mean if you invest all that money in a carrier based F-117, it'd be a shame never to build one, right? hey, is there any reason we can't ship one of our nighthawks over to the 3d printers after this specific callout? Isn't it old enough to be printable, or do things get funky with the legality of modernization kits? Yooper posted:As to the 3dP, I'll do some more digging. I like the concept, I just need a better way to equate one plane to the next. A better plane needs to cost more, but with the basic tools I have available it's a huge pain. How does one quantify one radar versus another? Or a set of loadouts? Unfortunately I've got no good way to do it yet. Some planes are just better than others, and not necessarily the more complex ones. So yah. more thought needs to go into it. Exclusivity is something I wanted to bring up as well. I think it might be worth paying for 'we own it' on the eagles - because anything we 3d print is going to be cheap for other people to buy, and unleash against us. It might be worth getting it for the eagles and flankers, just to protect our investments of pricey fighter craft, but more importantly I like the bargaining chip idea to trade access to a 'cream of the old cheap crop' around to other outfits or for story purposes. How much is it going to cost to keep the Akef's to ourself?
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CourValant posted:What's a library? It's like Blockbuster, only for books. And to preempt the next question: Blockbuster is like Netflix, only you
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TheParadigm posted:hey, is there any reason we can't ship one of our nighthawks over to the 3d printers after this specific callout? I think the thought is we can't 3D print the fancy skin stealth materials.
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pthighs posted:I think the thought is we can't 3D print the fancy skin stealth materials. Yeah, that exact question came up earlier in the thread, and Yooper posted:We are unable to 3d print specialty alloy coatings unfortunately.
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TheParadigm posted:hey, is there any reason we can't ship one of our nighthawks over to the 3d printers after this specific callout? Isn't it old enough to be printable, or do things get funky with the legality of modernization kits? As Darthbob brought up, they can't print specialty coatings (no stealth aircraft). The Akef's will be locked down for our use.
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quote:"49 seconds" Tried something different this time! Chunky Monkey fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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Nov 22, 2017 03:03
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Happy Thanksgiving, my fellow Hired Goons.
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Operation Sunglasses at Night going live in approximately 2 hours. Crews are on the flight lines and pounding the local coffee to stay awake for the late op. DT5 is in Sofia. Each agent is using her special skills to attempt to waylay the artillery in someway. There's a very good chance they will divert the artillery. But there's even odds that something bad will happen... Yes, it's short notice, but it's either tonight or next weekend.
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Well, I'm apprehensive. Unless that airfield strike goes perfectly, we are likely to lose some of our CAP, hopefully not too much. Also ready for the DT5 wildcard... e: currently live! TheDemon fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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Nov 26, 2017 01:59
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That damned monument just cant catch a break.
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Ikasuhito posted:That damned monument just cant catch a break. "Is the Communist monument on fire?" "...It could be more on fire." - Conversation overheard on Hayard-Gunnes comm network
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Operation Sunglasses at Night Summary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkP0l_rxLec Video uploading now  Losses None The siege of Sofia was something that, until today, had impacted few lives. The only thing most people noticed was the absence of COKE products on the shelves and in the coolers. Today all of that changed and the sudden awareness of the conflict boiled over. COKE is happy. A bitter rival, Molson-Coors-Taco Bell not only failed to hold the embargo but also shelled the entirety of Sofia like it was Sarajevo 1995. The public relations coup is amazing. COKE marketing wet themselves with excitement as they printed banners proclaiming their commitment to help rebuild Sofia. They've even brought in the band 4-Non Blondes for a special Bulgarian relief tour. The new COKE commercial shows footage of the bombing with the words "Hey hey, what's going on?".  The major news, beyond footage of a burning Sofia Communist Monument, was the impact of the 4th Industrial Revolution. In the skies over Bulgaria a major air war raged, and no one really noticed. The impact was simply in pilots. The planes themselves cheap. 3D printers and robotics have crowdsourced an aged fighter into an almost robotic death machine. Already the rumblings over a new type of warfare are upon us. Unfortunately it's drawing new money, new mercs, new opponents, new competitors into the PMC market.  But through it all is the human scale of it all. Sofia is no longer under siege. The artillery has been pulled away. MCTB has learned. Now instead they are beefing up the presence of precision munitions and attack helicopters. They aren't willing to give up, not yet, not now, not with so much at stake. The wheels of capitalism need grease and the shareholders must be appeased. While they don't demand blood, they demand profits. MCTB has shifted gears and has entered grudge gently caress mode. Not only did we beat them but we embarrassed them. MCTB is no longer a possible employer. Once again, peace sells, but who's buying? I'll be out of town next week for work. Central Mississippi here I come! Bac brought up the idea of two smaller missions run back to back instead of one big one. I like the idea. Our "Pick 2" will mean that both get run instead of just one. On the flipside plan #2 will have fewer planes to work with... Thoughts on it all? Ideally I'd run more missions, and this would simplify things.
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I'd like to alternate between the two, one big mission, then two small missions.
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We sure are good at escalation. It's practically our calling card. Mission wise I don't mind trying a double mission or two but I don't think I'd like it to be all the time. TheDemon fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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I think two small missions are good - particularly if they're squadron size. Ie, one could be CAP/Escort, another could be CAS/suppression. Also yay our first mission in a bit with no losses! But also more future competitors. Which hopefully we can buy out!
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No losses and Maximum Deniable Warcrimes. A good day.
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Can we adopt the statue? Also I'm amused that 'hundreds of civilians dead' is a neutral event.
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Dr. Snark posted:No losses and Maximum Deniable Warcrimes. A good day. quote:They've even brought in the band 4-Non Blondes for a special Bulgarian relief tour. But at what cost? Think of all the poor people having to dealing with them.
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I'm not sure what the time compression on this was, but it feels safe to assume that the shelling of Sofia lasted 45 minutes or more.
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The amount of artillery being fired... At some point there should have been a sanity check on the fire, because after the first couple of salvos there should have been so many people on the horn yelling at them...
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My take on it is they had a procedure in place to only respond to a few designated people and not question the targets. Those designated few would be personnel who were either killed at the command center, were off the clock, or were dealing with the incoming aircraft. MCTB could say they were sabotaged. But the public could rightly say that wouldn't explain, say, an hour of firing at the wrong target.
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I wasn't aware we hit a MCTB command center. But regardless, with violence like this, a (supra)national authority is going to try and shut it down sooner rather than later.
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We hit the targetting center for the guns. I meant this as more of a misguided opsec thing. Like the artillery men could accept direct orders from their superior, the targetting center, and the local commander. But if those people are too busy or dead to call and if the gunners aren't willing to question orders...
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RandomPauI posted:We hit the targetting center for the guns. I meant this as more of a misguided opsec thing. Like the artillery men could accept direct orders from their superior, the targetting center, and the local commander. But if those people are too busy or dead to call and if the gunners aren't willing to question orders... Hell, this is old towed artillery, the gunners only get a set of numbers (elevation, azimuth, charge) with no idea what the target is. The fire control/command post, which we hit, is where they know what they're shooting at (in the form of coordinates). This is usually computerized, and depending on the system they might have to manually check the coordinates against a map. I bet they had a list of "no-shoot" coordinates/areas and when Chana went in she switched that one in for the airport target list, and killed off the people who would know to check the map. So the MCTB artillery would think they're shelling the airfield and any reports from the city saying otherwise is obviously COKE disinformation and confused civilians. They didn't exactly have assets in place to verify, we made sure of that.
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quote:~ Hundreds of civilians dead This is a good basis for a HG morale patch.
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Nuramor posted:Enemy expenditures: 1199 rounds of 130mm artillery I didn't count total number of emplacements, but assuming 8 emplacements with 4 guns per, and an average rate of fire of 1 shell every ten seconds, Each gun would have fired an average of 37.5 shells, taking a total of 6 minutes and fifteen seconds to empty out their reserve.
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  This prior op has placed MCTB firmly into the "We don't like the Hired Goons" camp. Eventually they are going to bring it to us. So start thinking about it. Depending on who we poo poo on next, they might just help out... Arsenal AD has dropped standings a bit, they were unhappy to see Sofia bombed, even thought MCTB is taking the blame. Things are heating up elsewhere. The first Schmohz zeppelin campaign went off without a hitch. Well, actually, a half dozen F-5's duked it out with some Viggens over the Adriatic. Then, the last man standing, was shot down by an AAMRAM from some unknown assailant. The Schmohz execs are quite pleased and plan on doing it again. Sales are up!  DT5 feels really sorry about the whole mix up. However they say that these things happen, such is war. Next time they pledge to work doubly hard to make sure that no unfortunate mix ups occur. Jack concurred then started talking about his Birken bag allowance. gently caress if I know.     We're going with two missions this time. We'll run OP #1 first then OP #2 will have to use the planes that weren't used in the first OP. This includes the S100 and the Prowler. Two reasons here, one, to simplify the missions, and two, the pick up the pace. Once upon a time we did one mission a week. I'd like to get back to at least one mission every 2 weeks.  DON'T VOTE YET Discuss the choices, ask questions, plan a bit. I'm out of town until later in the week but will have sporadic wifi access. Yooper fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Wait, what pissed Unicum off? Did they also not like Sofia getting shelled? This is today's chart.  That's where we were last time.
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Davin Valkri posted:Wait, what pissed Unicum off? Did they also not like Sofia getting shelled? I must've screwed something up. Mission #1 was MCTB hiring us to strike UNICUM. So instead of COKE showing -1, it should be UNICUM. COKE should now be a +1.
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Molson and Coors are pisswater anyway, gently caress 'em  And to think, I never got to experience a Taco Bell fried chicken shell taco 
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I'd appreciate doing a couple of non-warcrimes missions, and zepline/bda sound the most likely to not result in civilian casualties.
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Molson is pretty good gas station beer, Coors is rear end. Welp, guess I need to buy other poo poo now. Also, war crimes best crimes.
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LostCosmonaut posted:Molson is pretty good gas station beer, Coors is rear end. I'm English so my standards are a bit higher than most American beers are capable of achieving. Lienenkugel's various fruited ales are actually pretty good though, and Iron Spike's (brewed right in the town a few mile from me) oatmeal stout was a revelation
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Couple Thoughts: 1) i'm thinking that we should do the Bridge Strike + one of the A2A ones. Trying to divide assets between two different A2G missions seems to be asking for a massive headache, especially with regards to figuring out how much SEAD to give each of them. Also, i'm very wary of what kind of gear might pop up on a 5/5 Risk mission, and think they should be considered All-In type endeavours. 2)Question For Yooper: does the number of Plane/SAM icons on a card indicate quantity while the Risk level serves as an indicator of quality?
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Nick Esasky posted:Couple Thoughts: That's a good way to describe it, yes.
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