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This series was about perfect, the only single thing I felt fell flat was the :eyeroll: gun control guy. Like, yeah I get that they needed him to be a strawman to counter what the other prominent character was saying about "are freedoms" but yeesh. Nobody in politics self-identifies as "part of the anti gun movement" because the "anti gun movement" exists only in NRA scaremongering propaganda. Taking home "Gee, now guns are pretty cool and I need to rethink my life" was like watching a STDH fwd:fwd:fwd acted out.
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moths posted:This series was about perfect, the only single thing I felt fell flat was the :eyeroll: gun control guy. Yeah he was the only element that left a bad taste in my mouth mostly because of how much of a goddamn conservative strawman he is. A US politician at that level calling themselves 'anti-gun' would be booted out of office in even the bluest of states. Which is sad in of its own right but, 
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Not really getting the "slow burn" criticism at all, but I'm only 1/3 of the way in so maybe it does slow down too much but some of my favorite scenes so far have been when guns weren't firing. the give and take between Frank and Micros was really good. Seems like if there was more fast paced ultra violence, a certain segment of viewers would bitch that it was Rambo or some poo poo. And, again, god drat. This show is violent as hell, People honestly think there's not enough action and graphic violence. My God.
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Nov 21, 2017 02:13
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I usually only notice a slow burn if I'm bored (so some parts of Jessica Jones and all of Iron Fist), and I was never bored watching Punisher. The pacing was fine to me. It's definitely not what I was expecting/dreading it to be (a nonstop murder express heading to the bullet farm), and honestly I'm glad that Frank only goes all murdery once every couple episodes, and when he does, he's so savage it's hard to feel like his behavior is glorified.
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It's not a slow burn it's just that people expect The Punisher to kill a dozen people every episode and that's not what this show is
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Nov 21, 2017 02:33
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If you’re an NYPD detective, I recommend hanging out by the waterfront, where on any given day you can catch about a dozen shady deals going down.
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As Nero Danced posted:I usually only notice a slow burn if I'm bored (so some parts of Jessica Jones and all of Iron Fist), and I was never bored watching Punisher. The pacing was fine to me. It's definitely not what I was expecting/dreading it to be (a nonstop murder express heading to the bullet farm), and honestly I'm glad that Frank only goes all murdery once every couple episodes, and when he does, he's so savage it's hard to feel like his behavior is glorified.
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Nov 21, 2017 03:02
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achillesforever6 posted:Bernthal's war cry is loving terrifying in how primal it is War roar. It's hard to call it a cry or even a scream. Dude is just straight up roaring and it's a pretty solid sign that something is about to go horribly wrong for someone else.
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zoux posted:If you’re an NYPD detective, I recommend hanging out by the waterfront, where on any given day you can catch about a dozen shady deals going down. I thought this too. That spot under the bridge seems like a pretty good place to stake out too.
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Nov 21, 2017 03:17
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I'm just thinking about the amount of punishment laid down on Frank over the last third of the season and it's ridiculous. Also, the only real continuity error I noticed was when Frank was just oozing blood out of his mouth and nose for this whole quiet scene, quickly followed by a scene where his face and shirt are barely red instead of saturated with several pints of blood.
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Nov 21, 2017 03:20
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loving hell, episode 12 is fantastic. Rawlins chewing the scenery is incredible. edit: I thought I was on episode 13 before. That was actually episode 12. RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Nov 21, 2017 |
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Nov 21, 2017 03:21
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RareAcumen posted:loving hell, episode 12 is fantastic. Rawlins chewing the scenery is incredible. Yeah this show has not 1, but 2 climaxes in the narrative.
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The only substantial continuity error I caught was when Karen didn't have her purse gun in the room, then did in the standoff..
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moths posted:The only substantial continuity error I caught was when Karen didn't have her purse gun in the room, then did in the standoff.. Go back and check. I missed it too first time round but she grabbed one of the Anvil guard’s pistols just before the Senator shoved her into Lewis.
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That makes sense - I think what threw me was the detective calling it hers in the debriefing.
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Karen seems like a really terrible person who uses a bombing to chase personal glory, put herself in the spotlight again, give a terrorist a speaking platform, and put a lot of people in danger while being deluded that she's fighting for a noble cause somehow. She's been the only character that I really disliked, and it really goes to show you how much better Punisher is than Daredevil in the character department.
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I’m rewatching DD S2 because I just want more Punisher right now and the family photo that Karen finds is clearly of a blonde woman with two little girls, so they changed his family between that series and this one
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Runaways is really good so far. If nobody cares about  , since I'm strickly phone posting atm, I could throw up a thread. Or should it fall into one of the Marvel generals? Is there even more than one any more?
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moths posted:That makes sense - I think what threw me was the detective calling it hers in the debriefing. I seem to recall she corrects him on it? Him or Frank.
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Nov 21, 2017 09:57
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Show really does pick up and start paying off in episode 9.
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site posted:It's not a slow burn it's just that people expect The Punisher to kill a dozen people every episode and that's not what this show is Yeah, it's the first Netflix Marvel series that fills out the 13 episodes well, every other show would have been better with the story tightened up.
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God drat. Punisher is the best Marvel show. It didn't drag towards the end like the rest of them, the main characters, side characters, and antagonists were all compelling with the exception of a couple minor characters and one from daredevil. I love that they avoided the trite "it's morally wrong to kill, what separates us from them" type stuff. Frank castle was a broken psychopath from the start and didn't drop it to suddenly become righteous midway through. They did spare the final villain, but death would have been a mercy for him.
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Woden posted:Yeah, it's the first Netflix Marvel series that fills out the 13 episodes well, every other show would have been better with the story tightened up. I maintain that DD season 1 did it almost as good only feeling like it dragged near the end because I hate third-act breakups
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esperterra posted:Runaways is really good so far. If nobody cares about Oh poo poo, forgot that had started. Really enjoyed the first couple of years of the comic before it turned to trash.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Oh poo poo, forgot that had started. There a thread yet? I want to post somewhere that i think amy acker is being typecast as Marvel mutant mother, but apparently it's not her it's a different actress? this is the fun stuff we can discuss when we get a thread.
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BSam posted:There a thread yet? I want to post somewhere that i think amy acker is being typecast as Marvel mutant mother, but apparently it's not her it's a different actress? Yeah, like what the heck is Runaways even?
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RareAcumen posted:Yeah, like what the heck is Runaways even? Kids have super powers, parents are part of some type of cult.
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notthegoatseguy posted:Kids have super powers, parents are part of some type of cult. I'm really gonna need more than that. Didn't DC have a group with the same name or was that just in the Young Justice series?
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RareAcumen posted:I'm really gonna need more than that. Didn't DC have a group with the same name or was that just in the Young Justice series? Kids find out their parents are actually a super villin group called "the pride". The pride controls a ton of criminal activity. In the comic they range from mutants (hulu might have trouble using that word), aliens, time travelers, wizards, and assassins. The kids runaway and try to stop their parents. Its actually a very good comic, but I am worried the show will not touch on some of the crazier comic stuff that makes it good. Molly was the fan favorite of the book, a kid around 8 or 9 with super strength. It looks like they aged her up for the tv show so Not sure how well it will work. My big worry with the show is typical marvel rights. A few of the stories use marvel properties that I am not sure hulu has access to. I think I read they are going to avoid some of the arks and maybe even change the kids around a little.
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So I'm like halfway through Defenders and its ok but I'm really chomping at the bit to get going on Punisher. Does anything happen in the latter half of Defenders that I would want to know about going into Punisher? From the trailer it seems like Punisher could be a completely stand alone story, which is what I'm hoping for.
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Basebf555 posted:So I'm like halfway through Defenders and its ok but I'm really chomping at the bit to get going on Punisher. Does anything happen in the latter half of Defenders that I would want to know about going into Punisher? From the trailer it seems like Punisher could be a completely stand alone story, which is what I'm hoping for. Frank's on his own, Defenders is just info you might wanna know if you plan on sticking through DD3, JJ2, IF2(?), and LC2.
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you really don't need to watch all that trash to get into punisher
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RareAcumen posted:Frank's on his own, Defenders is just info you might wanna know if you plan on sticking through DD3, JJ2, IF2(?), and LC2. Oh yea I'm definitely not just dropping it, I just wanted to know whether there's like crucial plot stuff that happens that would make me confused going into Punisher if I skip it. So I'll just start Punisher and kinda watch them together depending on my mood. I'm enjoying having all the characters together playing off each other but the overall story with The Hand isn't really doing it for me.
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One thing I'd like to see in Punisher S2 is for them to take a page out of the Garth Ennis MAX run and split the narrative between Frank and the villain of the piece. We got a little of that in this season, but I'd really like them to flesh out the bad guy a little more.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Frank's hair- back when he wasn't a broken man- is terrible.
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It’s amazing how much of the season the punisher spends with a bowl cut or flat bangs. But it relates to the shows promise that he’s not an ultimate badass you to relate to and look up to all the time.
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RareAcumen posted:I've said it before and I'll say it again, Frank's hair- back when he wasn't a broken man- is terrible. It took me way too long to realize this isn't the Always Sunny thread and that this post isn't about Frank Reynolds.
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Bernthal has great hair too so it's obviously something they thought fit with Frank's character. It makes sense, why the gently caress would a single minded murder machine give a poo poo about his hair style. Just keep it short enough so that it doesn't get in my eyes while I'm murdering, thanks.
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I'd kind of like a one or two episode mini series of Frank running into The Hand. So used to dealing with the worst Iron Fist and the Devil of Hell's Kitchen that they don't know what to do when the murder bellowing starts. Edit: As for actual season two speculation, I'm going to go with the arc that starts off with the world's dumbest man digging up Frank's family and pissing on them on TV. Gyges fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Nov 21, 2017 |
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