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A Wizard of Goatse posted:they're just reshuffling into the Nativist Party and Woke Corporations Party Yup it's trash
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Spinster posted:doomed due to demographics. I keep hearing this. Didn't Trump get 30% of the hispanic vote? Aren't democrat hispanics basically conservatives who just don't vote republican because of immigration?
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spacetoaster posted:I keep hearing this. Didn't Trump get 30% of the hispanic vote? Aren't democrat hispanics basically conservatives who just don't vote republican because of immigration? Yes, same as Romney and McCain did, and in large part yes on social issues no on economic. As newer generations get Americanized iirc they basically just start to look like any other millenial/whatever-kids-are-now-ial also lol quote:On immigration issues, 68% of Hispanic voters opposed building a wall along the entire U.S. border with Mexico, compared with 46% of whites and 82% of blacks, according to NBC News exit polls. When asked about unauthorized immigrants, 78% of Hispanic voters said they should be offered a chance to apply for legal status, compared with 67% of whites and 82% of blacks. A Wizard of Goatse has issued a correction as of 17:39 on Nov 21, 2017 |
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Nov 21, 2017 17:33
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spacetoaster posted:I keep hearing this. Didn't Trump get 30% of the hispanic vote? Aren't democrat hispanics basically conservatives who just don't vote republican because of immigration? I do not anticipate the Republican party in whatever form getting the majority of the Hispanic vote for a while
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Nov 21, 2017 17:39
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The political landscape would be hella more interesting if the dems dropped the gun issue, and if the republicans dropped immigration.
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Nov 21, 2017 17:42
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Nov 21, 2017 17:42
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OWLS! posted:The political landscape would be hella more interesting if the dems dropped the gun issue, and if the republicans dropped immigration. Also abortion.
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Nov 21, 2017 17:43
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scrubs season six posted:lmao idiots are still unironically complaining about obama giving speeches while the GOP has made it impossible to class action banks and is busy trying to pass a tax plan for the 1%. A reminder that the dems couldn't pass a healthcare bill that didn't give a de-facto monopoly to health insurers when they owned the government to the hilt because Joe Lieberman or something.
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Nov 21, 2017 17:44
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Spinster posted:I do not anticipate the Republican party in whatever form getting the majority of the Hispanic vote for a while Not until they soften up more on immigration. And don't count on democrats bringing hispanics into the fold either. Have you looked at hispanic views on stuff like abortion, lgbtqaip, and the 2nd amendment? IF the repubs change stance in the next several years the "demographic shift" that dems keep talking about will be their death. Also, they're moving over to being white too. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/05/22/upshot/more-hispanics-declaring-themselves-white.html?_r=0&referrer I know it's just ancedotal, but all the 2nd generation guys I work with from mexican/cuban/puerto rican/south american families are white, and conservative, as gently caress.
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Nov 21, 2017 17:47
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scrubs season six posted:lmao idiots are still unironically complaining about obama giving speeches while the GOP has made it impossible to class action banks and is busy trying to pass a tax plan for the 1%. I guess Obama just had to bail out wallstreet? Too big to fail and all that? 
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Nov 21, 2017 17:48
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What if it were possible to like or dislike BOTH parties
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Nov 21, 2017 17:49
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Avirosb posted:No one has outlawed 3rd parties. Yeah yeah it's just illegal for communists/socialists to hold office in many states and the Communist Control Act of '54 outright bans Communist parties.
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Nov 21, 2017 17:51
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COMRADES posted:Yeah yeah it's just illegal for communists/socialists to hold office in many states and the Communist Control Act of '54 outright bans Communist parties. Good. 
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scrubs season six posted:lmao idiots are still unironically complaining about obama giving speeches while the GOP has made it impossible to class action banks and is busy trying to pass a tax plan for the 1%. https://theintercept.com/2017/11/14/bank-deregulation-bipartisan-senate-equifax/
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Nov 21, 2017 17:56
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Nov 21, 2017 17:57
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Yeah, but...uh.....what about Trump!?!?
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spacetoaster posted:Yeah, but...uh.....what about Trump!?!? Lol u think trump isnt a neolib vampire
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OWLS! posted:A reminder that the dems couldn't pass a healthcare bill that didn't give a de-facto monopoly to health insurers when they owned the government to the hilt because Joe Lieberman or something. Who else provides health insurance besides health insurers?
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scrubs season six posted:Who else provides health insurance besides health insurers? I dunno, a government health insurer of some kind. Almost like a... Medicare... for all.... 
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Nov 21, 2017 18:03
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scrubs season six posted:Who else provides health insurance besides health insurers? I assume he was referring to the mandate
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"Let's force everybody to buy a product and not give any of the companies making a product any reason to compete on price"
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"Oh and let's not regulate them in any meaningfull way either"
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Blue Train posted:I assume he was referring to the mandate I know, it was just stupidly worded. And in any case the mandate is good and medicare for all didn't have a chance of being on the table.
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Nov 21, 2017 18:06
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scrubs season six posted:I know, it was just stupidly worded. lol ok
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Nov 21, 2017 18:07
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Blue Train posted:Neither parties current climate is sustainable but I expect things to get worse not better death to america
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Nov 21, 2017 18:14
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:What if it were possible to like or dislike BOTH parties what if it were possible to shut the gently caress up itt because the dems are bad lol
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Nov 21, 2017 18:29
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scrubs season six posted:I know, it was just stupidly worded. This is stupidly worded.
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Nov 21, 2017 18:31
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Nov 21, 2017 18:37
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If Chaffee got caught up in some cultural zeitgeist that swept him to the presidency I don't think he'd ever stop making GBS threads himself.
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Nov 21, 2017 18:41
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scrubs season six posted:lmao idiots are still unironically complaining about obama giving speeches while the GOP has made it impossible to class action banks and is busy trying to pass a tax plan for the 1%. Thanks Obama.
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Nov 21, 2017 18:41
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*desperately looks for a way to justify the "d-d-dems did it but they didnt WANT to, their hands were TIED" narrative, constantly ran up the flagpole over the Obama presidency*
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bitmap posted:*desperately looks for a way to justify the "d-d-dems did it but they didnt WANT to, their hands were TIED" narrative, constantly ran up the flagpole over the Obama presidency* I really have never understood how bragging about how weak and ineffectual you are is a good thing.
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Nov 21, 2017 18:48
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Whatever happened to that The Rent is Too drat High party? I think I'd like to subscribe to their newsletter.
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popewiles posted:Whatever happened to that The Rent is Too drat High party? I think I'd like to subscribe to their newsletter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Whig_Party
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spacetoaster posted:I really have never understood how bragging about how weak and ineffectual you are is a good thing. it's a pretty great course of action if your entire plan for a profitable existence is to simply appear to be the principled opposition to a party of grotesque loving vampires, with no designs to actually seize power because under an atom thin mask of propriety you are also a grotesque loving vampire. If you occasionally fall over yourself and accidentally get in power, awesome! You can make a little more money through the influence you will wield by passing exactly the same legislature under a different name.
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Nov 21, 2017 18:57
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obama democrats were only weak and ineffectual in not being able to cut or privatize social security like their donors wanted in the Grand Bargain
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spacetoaster posted:I really have never understood how bragging about how weak and ineffectual you are is a good thing. liberals see weakness, cowardice and lack of convictions as a strength, because being decisive, strong and driven are "authoritarian" qualities
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comedyblissoption posted:Obama didn't prosecute wells fargo for the recent mass account fraud scandal. Obama stopped prosecution of any major financial or real estate institutions for mass fraud that caused the 2008 economic crisis. Obama didn't prosecute anyone for the robo fraud foreclosure scandal following the crisis. Obama gifted the major financial institutions with almost a trillion in unaccountable TARP bailouts and 4.5 trillion in quantitative easing. Obama carried water for these institutions after they gave themselves huge bonuses after getting bailed out. Obama did not nationalize the fraudulent failing banks and hedge funds that were bailed out (this had been done before in previous crisis). Obama ensured that protections for homeowners in the original tarp bill was removed. Obama made sure that the banks could foreclose on over 5 million american families. Obama made sure to implement austerity, a policy favored by banks. Obama in effect enacted policies that allowed fraudulent irresponsible lenders to be made whole on their bad loans and they also got the collateral on top of it. Obama's terrible policies were a large part of trump's win.
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