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Fangz posted:Wouldn't the allies have learned quickly to jam those missiles if they were rolled out in a big way? Probably? It's not like they hadn't done that for other systems. I would guess that it would depend on the Allies getting some information on their method of deployment and maybe some tech (or test with jammers on the next bombing run)
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Incendiary soap would probably make you very clean. It is difficult to see how setting a bat on fire improves its ability to be a bat.
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OwlFancier posted:Incendiary soap would probably make you very clean. It is difficult to see how setting a bat on fire improves its ability to be a bat. But it does improve ability to be a bomb!
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:I know this is late but the "rational west" is nonsense https://medium.com/@sallylepage/in-2017-uk-water-companies-still-rely-on-magic-6eb62e036b02 lol, I was thinking of "surely the (now literally disproven) idea of cutting the budget to prosperity will save us" but this is good too
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OwlFancier posted:"The people's flag is deepest red, it's shrouded oft our martyred dead. And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold, their heart's blood dyed its every fold." Naw, anarchist originally took the black flag because it signals struggle and sorrow. It was used by all other kinds of socialists as well back in the 1860s when the anarchists started coming into their own.
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Nebakenezzer posted:The Germans had one major problem with missiles: guidance. Aside from visually guiding it in, they had no method for targeting a warhead. They managed to deploy a few other technologies like wire guidance and even (in a experimental prototype) a primitive TV picture that could be sent along the guiding wire to the aimer in the aircraft, but figuring out a method for autonomous guidance was beyond Nazi electronics. (My impression is that the Nazis were not very advanced in electronics compared to other major belligerents, please correct me if I'm wrong.) All of the solutions Germany pursued were MCLOS, which just isn't going to work for a missile trying to hit something moving relatively quickly way the hell up there. That said, I'm fairly sure they had all of the elements necessary for an actual COLOS system ala Nike. By ~1943, they had: - bigass early warning radar - monopulse acquisition and guidance radar(s) - computer capable of performing interception calculation - way to link data between radars and computer - solid rocket booster in the 200-300 kN class - method of actuating flight surfaces on the interceptor As I said above, the only missing element there is a commo device on the interceptor; I have no idea if this was feasible. They didn't need a prox fuze - Nike Ajax/Herc were both command detonated, which worked well enough even against jet bombers. In any case I think my point is the tech was within reach had it been a priority but let's V-2 instead, that'll turn the tide.
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In before someone posts a picture of a fire keese I know you fuckers.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Not true, as some could be remotely detonated, and another allegedly used two proximity fuzes. They wouldn't have been as accurate, that's for sure. I can't even begin to wonder how hard it must be to try to remotely detonate a missile 7 thousand meters up without any help. Interesting! Do you know how the prox fuses worked? In addition to what you said about remote detonation, I imagine "remote detonation via signal" was just an embossed invite card for some hilarious Allied fuckery
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Nebakenezzer posted:Interesting! Do you know how the prox fuses worked? Photosensitive, much like Schrag Musik. And acoustic. Also this is cool 
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What is that, and does it come from something bigger?
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xthetenth posted:What is that, and does it come from something bigger? How flak works, in slow-mo. Found it on wikipedia, not sure if theres a larger version
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So it's basically a time delayed canister shot?
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OwlFancier posted:So it's basically a time delayed canister shot? More or less. Really it's the same basic principle as artillery on the ground - burst a shell to send fragments everywhere - only you have to use a fuse to detonate it at the same altitude as your target.
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Huh I always figured that they had something in the shells to make those black clouds and the idea was that it hosed up the engine if it got sucked in.
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Nope. Shell splinters that gently caress poo poo up. Ever see those old pictures of WW2 aircraft just peppered with holes? Here's one from the inside of a Halifax bomber.  Note how irregular the holes are in size and shape. edit: here's one of flak damage to a B29 that shows it off quite well: 
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"What the fuuuck?"
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OwlFancier posted:"What the fuuuck?" Is he....naked? Did the shelling wake him up or something?
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feedmegin posted:Is he....naked? Did the shelling wake him up or something? B29s tended to operate in the pacific. The pacific frequently gets kind of warm. The bomber is on the ground. Big aluminum tubes heat up in warm places also.
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It does look like it's still in the air and he's just sticking his head out because some bastard keyed his whip.
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There goes the security deposit.
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:I know this is late but the "rational west" is nonsense https://medium.com/@sallylepage/in-2017-uk-water-companies-still-rely-on-magic-6eb62e036b02 gently caress's sake.
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OwlFancier posted:"What the fuuuck?" Side note: poo poo like that was the entire reason Flak Jackets were invented- to keep that guy's torso from looking like that plane's fuselage. Prior to Kevlar, the only way to get that protection was to load steel plates into a vest, which, while being too cumbersome and heavy to be effectively used by ground infantry, wasn't a significant issue for aviators.
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simplefish posted:Just popping in to say, if anyone likes Napoleonics and easy-to-read novels, I just finished my first Sharpe book (of Sean Bean teledrama fame), and I really appreciated the author putting in an afterword about the historical context, what was real and what was fiction, and why the fiction is still plausible. I enjoy this series too, with the sole caveat that I wish he’d stop shoehorning awkward romances into them. I’m only here to sperg about musketry, no time for love I’ve only read the first 5 books or so (chronologically, not order of release) so maybe he does stop, I don’t know
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No romance will be as weird or awkward as the Hornblower telly series adaption one.
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http://www.somethingawful.com/awful-movie-database/sharpes-piss-pot/
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That’s pretty peak parsons Mods name change to sergeant blaaargh please
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Ainsley McTree posted:I enjoy this series too, with the sole caveat that I wish he’d stop shoehorning awkward romances into them. I’m only here to sperg about musketry, no time for love
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HEY GUNS posted:honestly, maturin's goony attempts at love in the o'brien series really ring true to me They way to a woman's heart is to murder her other lovers, right?
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sullat posted:They way to a woman's heart is to murder her other lovers, right? A DUEL IS NOT MURDER, SIR. GOOD DAY.
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sullat posted:They way to a woman's heart is to murder her other lovers, right? Worked for David
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I laughed so much, my girlfriend said "I love you, but can you please shut up" 
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bewbies posted:I liked the Saxon Stories a lot, although I haven't read like the last 3 or so. those are good, as are sharpe, especially for airplane reading - i get them on my iPad from the public library
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WW2 Data The last of the large projectiles is up! That marks the end of the large projectiles used as next week we return to 20mm cartridges in many various types and models. So be sure to catch these last large rounds before we move on!
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 tag urself, i'm the...uh...dahlgren gun?
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I'm the creaters made from artillery shells.
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gently caress efb Can we both be creaters?
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I'd imagine there are a lot of shells to go around.
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Siivola posted:I'd imagine there are a lot of shells to go around. Oh thank God. I'll be one of the smaller ones.
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I'm aganist a direct hit from a artillery shell.
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:I know this is late but the "rational west" is nonsense https://medium.com/@sallylepage/in-2017-uk-water-companies-still-rely-on-magic-6eb62e036b02 jesus christ
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