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Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

STAC Goat posted:

I guess the two "glaring" origin differences I notice are probably Gert's parents not being time travelers but rather being "bio engineers" and Molly probably not being a mutant. Both of those make sense since they're not things in the MCU but don't seem terribly significant.

I read that thing about the Yorkes too, but the AV Club's review says they're still time-travelers. But I think that review also called Molly a mutant, which I'm fairly confident won't be the case. So who knows at this point.

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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Runaways is off to a good start. The casting on all the kids and parents is top notch so far! Chase's hair is short af though what is this nonsense??

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 40 minutes!
so I'm watching Channel 0: No End House and I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it

every review is wanking themselves off about how much better and ~existential~ the show is than the channy chan cuh-reeepy spaghetti linguini but like, the whole Solaris thing just loving draaaaags in its own way. Just more in a sci fi indie film that's isn't quite sure what it wants to be way instead of a lovely internet scurry story grimdark edgelord way

it probably didn't help that my intro to it was this super clickbait of a premise article
https://www.wired.com/2017/11/geeks-guide-channel-zero/

like it's not terrible enough for me to hate, and it's certainly not blowing me away like the article suggests I would be

Alan Smithee fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Nov 21, 2017

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Alan Smithee posted:

so I'm watching Channel 0: No End House and I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it

every review is wanking themselves off about how much better and ~existential~ the show is than the channy chan cuh-reeepy spaghetti linguini but like, the whole Solaris thing just loving draaaaags in its own way. Just more in a sci fi indie film that's isn't quite sure what it wants to be way instead of a lovely internet scurry story grimdark edgelord way

it probably didn't help that my intro to it was this super clickbait of a premise article
https://www.wired.com/2017/11/geeks-guide-channel-zero/

like it's not terrible enough for me to hate, and it's certainly not blowing me away like the article suggests I would be

I'll never understand why people place any value whatsoever in reviews. If you think you'll enjoy it just watch it. Of course you're not going to have the exact same reaction as a completely different person. The show was just ok, pretty middling the entire way through. I thought Candle Cove was better, but NEH was a tighter story I suppose, and had a better emotional punch at the end.

Honestly it's probably just ruined for you now.

The only 'review" of a show I really place any value in is 15+ separate people popping into this thread to say WATCH THIS THING WOW! like Future Man, or Ozark, or The Orville. The genre is irrelevant, if there is a consensus then it's usually really good. gently caress individual blog style clickbait writers, it's all trash

bring back old gbs fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Nov 21, 2017

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/36-former-women-staffers-at-snl-release-statement-in-support-of-sen-al-franken/ar-BBFrPbU

:thunk:

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!
Since this weekend was Punisher it took me a few days to get around to watching Longmire S6. Anyone else watch it all the way through?

There's a lot of things this show does well, usually the crime stuff is typically pretty good with Walt being a little too good at his job(compared to everyone else) on occasion.

I was annoyed that Nighthorse was actually guilty of something mostly because it made Walt too perfect. I liked the idea that Nighthorse & the Casino simply became the focus of Walt's anger and grief following the death of his wife. Henry taking over the casino in the end was a little too sunshine and rainbows for everyone. There's a scene in the later half of the season where Walt flat out tells Ferg that Ferg inherited Walt's worst trait which is tunnel vision, and I was hoping that would have a better payoff with him and Nighthorse other than him just endorsing the casino and Henry's ownership of it.

I never bought the Vic/Walt romance angle either. It was believable from her perspective but not really from his. He was never really a vain character that would care about dating someone for their looks either and I didn't really feel like the past two season built the angle enough from his perspective. Though I guess their 'ending' was more about just enjoying their time together.

On the list of other things that weren't built up was positioning Cady as the new sheriff. That was completely out of left field and given her role on the show as being the white link to the Reservation; well there wasn't really a strong enough connection to her solving crimes and such to make the job make sense for her. If we'd had the past 2 seasons since Branch died, building her up as having more of a passion for law enforcement I'd get it but the justification at the end is 'you know the law and can be better at politics than me so you should be sheriff. It felt like it would have made much more sense for her to keep trying to provide legal counsel for people on the Res having done something to rebuild their trust in her.

I guess the girl that Ferg was courting was busy doing Star Trek Disco so they couldn't get in her for a finale scene. Poor Ferg I was always pulling for him to end up with Cady or Vic simply because he was good guy and deserved to get an attractive thin girl and eschew typically TV casting of making sure he was still dating someone in his 'league'.

Overall the ending was a little flat but the stuff in the middle was mostly good. While I typically prefer my shows serial, this one was best when it was just doing the episodic stuff even if there was the same cliche formula of: crime happens, Walt sees something and has people run around while he runs down a lead and handles private matters, Cady shoves her foot in her mouth trying to do good, Vic gets mad/frustrated at Walt for doing something, Henry takes matters into his own hands, Walt has to be reminded he doesn't have jurisdiction on the Res but goes there anyway, Ferg does all the leg and paperwork then looks puzzled as Walt sees all the information and gets a theory...which turns out to be correct.

Basically this would be a good show to play bingo with, but was still enjoyable and boy did they cast the perfect guy to play Walt.

RIP Branch Connally; you were too good for this show.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Somehow The Good Doctor, the show about an autistic doctor based on a Korean drama, is now the highest rated network drama. More than NCIS. It's also a garbage show so no surprise there.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Mu Zeta posted:

Somehow The Good Doctor, the show about an autistic doctor based on a Korean drama, is now the highest rated network drama. More than NCIS. It's also a garbage show so no surprise there.

What was it up against last week?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

precision posted:

I think it's pretty reasonable to dislike Dunham at this point, after absolutely horrible poo poo like the Beckham thing. Like, there's a difference between the old "lmao she fat" and the current "she is white privilege feminism/abused her little sister/kinda seems racist" mindsets.

It's Okay To Dislike A lovely Woman. Starting with season 3, Girls really was a great show though.

lol this thing from her Rolling Stones article

quote:

She found herself sympathizing more with the stray dogs she saw than the poverty-stricken people – maybe because the human suffering was too overwhelming. "Sometimes I think that if we were, at any one instant, to truly comprehend the amount of human suffering happening in the world, we would just die," she says, brown eyes bright. She sounds more than ever like a J.D. Salinger character, perhaps a lost Glass sibling.




She's still processing India; she's still processing everything.

sums it up

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 40 minutes!
Trumpmerica must be trying to figure out the incel children who made him possible

bring back old gbs posted:

I'll never understand why people place any value whatsoever in reviews. If you think you'll enjoy it just watch it. Of course you're not going to have the exact same reaction as a completely different person. The show was just ok, pretty middling the entire way through. I thought Candle Cove was better, but NEH was a tighter story I suppose, and had a better emotional punch at the end.

Honestly it's probably just ruined for you now.

The only 'review" of a show I really place any value in is 15+ separate people popping into this thread to say WATCH THIS THING WOW! like Future Man, or Ozark, or The Orville. The genre is irrelevant, if there is a consensus then it's usually really good. gently caress individual blog style clickbait writers, it's all trash

Ironically I would not have known about it we're it not for the clixkbaity article so they succeeded on that front I suppose

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Iron Crowned posted:

What was it up against last week?

Scorpion and The Brave, and it had double the audience of The Brave in both total viewership and 18-49 share.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Yeah, I'm not a TV scientist, I can't figure out how that happened.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Arist posted:

I forgot how good Search Party is.

I was insta-turned off by how much I hated everyone on it.

spudsbuckley
Aug 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

(and can't post for 5 years!)

Mu Zeta posted:

Somehow The Good Doctor, the show about an autistic doctor based on a Korean drama, is now the highest rated network drama. More than NCIS. It's also a garbage show so no surprise there.

Isn't it just House again?

House was popular as gently caress.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Shageletic posted:

I was insta-turned off by how much I hated everyone on it.

I found the characters to be very compellingly terrible, but it's definitely a your mileage may vary situation.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Mu Zeta posted:

Somehow The Good Doctor, the show about an autistic doctor based on a Korean drama, is now the highest rated network drama. More than NCIS. It's also a garbage show so no surprise there.

NCIS just had too many cast changes for me to continue caring. Maybe the olds felt the same.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

spudsbuckley posted:

Isn't it just House again?

House was popular as gently caress.

Yeah it's House but it changes "being a dick to people is okay if you're smart" to "autism gives you superpowers".

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



spudsbuckley posted:

Isn't it just House again?

House was popular as gently caress.

More like Doogie Howser I think

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006

Mu Zeta posted:

Somehow The Good Doctor, the show about an autistic doctor based on a Korean drama, is now the highest rated network drama. More than NCIS. It's also a garbage show so no surprise there.

No it's not, it's a fair way behind This is Us, but yeah the good doctor is doing surprisingly well

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Davros1 posted:

More like Doogie Howser I think

Doogie Houser

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

PaybackJack posted:

Since this weekend was Punisher it took me a few days to get around to watching Longmire S6. Anyone else watch it all the way through?

There's a lot of things this show does well, usually the crime stuff is typically pretty good with Walt being a little too good at his job(compared to everyone else) on occasion.

I was annoyed that Nighthorse was actually guilty of something mostly because it made Walt too perfect. I liked the idea that Nighthorse & the Casino simply became the focus of Walt's anger and grief following the death of his wife. Henry taking over the casino in the end was a little too sunshine and rainbows for everyone. There's a scene in the later half of the season where Walt flat out tells Ferg that Ferg inherited Walt's worst trait which is tunnel vision, and I was hoping that would have a better payoff with him and Nighthorse other than him just endorsing the casino and Henry's ownership of it.

I never bought the Vic/Walt romance angle either. It was believable from her perspective but not really from his. He was never really a vain character that would care about dating someone for their looks either and I didn't really feel like the past two season built the angle enough from his perspective. Though I guess their 'ending' was more about just enjoying their time together.

On the list of other things that weren't built up was positioning Cady as the new sheriff. That was completely out of left field and given her role on the show as being the white link to the Reservation; well there wasn't really a strong enough connection to her solving crimes and such to make the job make sense for her. If we'd had the past 2 seasons since Branch died, building her up as having more of a passion for law enforcement I'd get it but the justification at the end is 'you know the law and can be better at politics than me so you should be sheriff. It felt like it would have made much more sense for her to keep trying to provide legal counsel for people on the Res having done something to rebuild their trust in her.

I guess the girl that Ferg was courting was busy doing Star Trek Disco so they couldn't get in her for a finale scene. Poor Ferg I was always pulling for him to end up with Cady or Vic simply because he was good guy and deserved to get an attractive thin girl and eschew typically TV casting of making sure he was still dating someone in his 'league'.

Overall the ending was a little flat but the stuff in the middle was mostly good. While I typically prefer my shows serial, this one was best when it was just doing the episodic stuff even if there was the same cliche formula of: crime happens, Walt sees something and has people run around while he runs down a lead and handles private matters, Cady shoves her foot in her mouth trying to do good, Vic gets mad/frustrated at Walt for doing something, Henry takes matters into his own hands, Walt has to be reminded he doesn't have jurisdiction on the Res but goes there anyway, Ferg does all the leg and paperwork then looks puzzled as Walt sees all the information and gets a theory...which turns out to be correct.

Basically this would be a good show to play bingo with, but was still enjoyable and boy did they cast the perfect guy to play Walt.

RIP Branch Connally; you were too good for this show.



Pretty much agree with this after watching it- I think the show's better at being crime drama than soap opera and unfortunately it goes to the latter a bit too often for my taste.

The way Nighthorse was handled was really dumb, too- it was just a big swerve that didn't make sense for him to actually be guilty, making Walt be right about him was just, bleh to me. I thought the ending in general felt like a big rush at the end, pacing-wise.

Honestly this show is better as a police procedural with a little bit going on around it. I would've liked to see what happened with the weed dealer though. He was pretty hilarious.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




So re: Runaways, the Staff of One is still activated by blood, but it isn't literal magic any more, I guess.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Yeah it's House but it changes "being a dick to people is okay if you're smart" to "autism gives you superpowers".

I've only seen commercials for it so far but his manner of speaking just really annoys me and I don't think I could sit through hour long episodes of that.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 40 minutes!
I'm assuming it's like the detective from Hannibal except he uses his powers for healing instead of clinical sociopathy and occasional crime solving dog

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Alan Smithee posted:

I'm assuming it's like the detective from Hannibal except he uses his powers for healing instead of clinical sociopathy and occasional crime solving dog

The thing about Will Graham is that he's tooempathetic and really able to see things from another person's perspective, which sounds like the opposite of autistic. Then again, haven't seen the good doctor so I know nothing about that show.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Woooooooooo!

Good Place renewed for another season.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

muscles like this! posted:

Woooooooooo!

Good Place renewed for another season.

Yes! I had heard the numbers weren't great so I'm very happy to hear it.

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!
Re: Runaways.

So far I'm not in love with the adaptation. Show is focusing way too much on the parents, trying to give them depth and character, but doing so at the expense of building up the kids who should be the main focus. They seemed to cast good teenage/young adult actors so it's a shame they aren't giving them more. Molly seems a bit too old for what the character should be too.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I'm fine with most of the changes so far, but I hope they don't go too far down the road of making the parents overly sympathetic. I'm cool with fleshing them out more in general, though. Other than two of the families being against the rest of them on the DL we didn't get much information about the Pride at all in the comic. It they did the first volume 1:1 it would last like four episodes.

My only real worry is that making the Deans basically Scientologists is going to be a weird way to allude to them being aliens in the comics, then have them be something else in the show. But I don't think they'll change that. Hope not, anyway.

Aged up Molly seems fine so far. It could get weird later if she acts comic Molly's age all the time, but we'll see.

e: i love the scientology angle for the Deans btw esp if their comic origin stays mostly intact

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!
I'd be fine with some back story for the parents but they're going way too far in martial drama. And what's worse is that it feels like it's being done to purposefully extend the source material but is adding nothing to the overall narrative because it's all interpersonal drama that's not related to them being super villains.

Molly is a great character in the comics because she's a cute little kid with superstrength with a big nonsense attitude. This version is too adult and full of teen angst.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Someone make a thread for Runaways.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I was going to, but I can't make threads on mobile and my computer is dead.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

I just now noticed that The Strain had finished it's run. I saw the first season and thought it was ok. There was room for improvement, but nontheless it was entertaining enough and I was curious to see where it was going to go, so I resolved to re-visit when it was done.

In general, how did it turn out? Were there any major increases or decreases in quality or did it potter along at about the same level?

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


gently caress it, making a Runaways thread, someone in the Marvel thread was gonna but they're taking forever

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




'twas I, before I found out I can't from the app I guess. So thanks for putting one up!

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

muscles like this! posted:

Someone make a thread for Runaways.

muscles like this! posted:

With the fall TV season coming up I've decided to do a little experiment. If a show does not have a thread the day of new episodes starting I will make it.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back





Gottem.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Super-crappy Runaways thread thrown together a few minutes before I had to go get dinner is up here:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3841367

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Arist posted:

Super-crappy Runaways thread thrown together a few minutes before I had to go get dinner is up here:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3841367

Thank you!

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Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

You know John Lasseter, creator of Toy Story. Guess why he is stepping down from Disney.

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