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Inept posted:Yeah there's no way to actually make sure an email is being opened on the same computer as the browser. coinbase uses standard 2fa with a 6 digit code via sms iirc and requires you to do it again after logging in to withdraw funds etc. there's no way this isn't monumental user error and/or an employee at the daycare if they'd walked in and dropped $10k in cash into a donation box, and that went missing, they'd be just as hosed poverty goat fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Nov 21, 2017 |
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poverty goat posted:coinbase uses standard 2fa with a 6 digit code via sms iirc and requires you to do it again after logging in to withdraw funds etc. there's no way this isn't monumental user error and/or an employee at the daycare If you can get your target to go to your fake website and provide you information, it's not that hard to bypass most 2 factor devices aside from hardware tokens that get plugged in to USB/bluetooth https://breakdev.org/evilginx-advanced-phishing-with-two-factor-authentication-bypass/ https://github.com/ustayready/CredSniper
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Inept posted:If you can get your target to go to your fake website and provide you information, it's not that hard to bypass most 2 factor devices aside from hardware tokens that get plugged in to USB/bluetooth so, user error then
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scammer over phone, who is currently trying to log in posted:Okay, I'll be happy to help you. in order to keep your account secure, we're going to send you a security code. when you receive it, tell me what it is
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poverty goat posted:so, user error then quote:sounds like someone at the preschool is doing a bunch of cocaine Person says they gave the preschool a scammer number. Couldn't be they got scammed, must be employees doing drugs and blaming the bitcoins Also this, SMS codes are garbage and usually don't time out for 10 minutes or more
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Who What Now posted:Good luck liquidating it. It's really not very hard to liquidate. Kraken.com
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That loving idiot just googled "coinbase support" and called whatever number showed up in the results. Didn't check that it was from Coinbase's site, probably didn't even click on the loving search result. It's so bad that if I didn't believe people were monumentally stupid I'd assume this was some kind of insurance scam, but I don't know any org that would actually insure cryptocurrency. God, I hope that's not a thing.
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Get your crypto current insurance here! For just US$ 50/month, we insure any amount of cryptocurrency against any kind of event. Claims will be paid in insurancecoins, which are the same as US$*. ^^ Not a scam, send me your monies right now! Refer your friends for 15% kickback**. *) insurancecoins not convertible to anything else. **) kickback paid out in insurancecoins
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sir i would like to buy some of your insurancecoins
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GPUs are cheap again, ROI ~6 months at current price/difficulty. When I mined for 1.5 months earlier this year my ROI was 4 months. Then I sold everything but the motherboard/cpu/ram on ebay for 1.5x my cost after fees & shipping, but these prices have me eyeballing getting back into the mining game 
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Spudalicious posted:GPUs are cheap again, ROI ~6 months at current price/difficulty. When I mined for 1.5 months earlier this year my ROI was 4 months. Then I sold everything but the motherboard/cpu/ram on ebay for 1.5x my cost after fees & shipping, but these prices have me eyeballing getting back into the mining game You're including electricity too right?
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Spudalicious posted:GPUs are cheap again, ROI ~6 months at current price/difficulty. When I mined for 1.5 months earlier this year my ROI was 4 months. Then I sold everything but the motherboard/cpu/ram on ebay for 1.5x my cost after fees & shipping, but these prices have me eyeballing getting back into the mining game dont mine a coin man, it's autism work.
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H2SO4 posted:That loving idiot just googled "coinbase support" and called whatever number showed up in the results. Didn't check that it was from Coinbase's site, probably didn't even click on the loving search result. You can basically buy insurance for whatever you want. BitPay insures their bitcoins, but a year or two ago when they lost 2 million bitcoins due to their CEO's credentials getting stolen the insurance company didn't pay out because the insurance agreement only covered the physical theft of bitcoins. Classic
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Ham Sandwiches posted:No poo poo, it turns out that the "exchanges gonna rip you off and keep getting hacked" people are 100% dumb and making ridiculous arguments, just as I have been pointing out for months!
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IIRC that was right before I discovered that a major exchange had been hacked every month since June, and when I posted about it Ham Sandwiches didn't bother posting here for a whole week and later denied that those hacks ever happened (but the internet still remembers)
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Is this about the recent thing where Mods on r/bitcoin ran bots to downvote and upvote bot comments to drag money into Bitcoin cash? *edit* this thing? https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7eil12/evidence_that_the_mods_of_rbitcoin_may_have_been/
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Personally I thought that Bitcoin: Civil War was only okay, I was a much bigger fan of Bitcoin: CARL MARK FORCE IV
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Is there any way to get this poo poo (SALT, Ltc, Bitcoin, Etherium, Dogecoin, whatever the gently caress coin) off of an exchange, onto a physical usb drive, and lock it in a safe? Or is all of this bullshit still tied up in the "exchanges" where your butts are only so good until the exchange gets hacked and all you're left with is no butts and a massive poop emoji?
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Avalanche posted:Is there any way to get this poo poo (SALT, Ltc, Bitcoin, Etherium, Dogecoin, whatever the gently caress coin) off of an exchange, onto a physical usb drive, and lock it in a safe? Or is all of this bullshit still tied up in the "exchanges" where your butts are only so good until the exchange gets hacked and all you're left with is no butts and a massive poop emoji? yeah, you can get your coins off an exchange and store the address and private key on your computer, on a USB stick or on a piece of paper. this is what "wallet" software actually does. it's a stupendous pain in the arse, though, so people use exchanges as (shoddy) banks (run by incompetent crooks).
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Yeah theres offline wallets like Electrum (sp?). They may have backdoors or something though, who knows
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Surprise Giraffe posted:Yeah theres offline wallets like Electrum (sp?). it's ok! being your own financial institution chief security officer is totally easy and straightforward and it's on the wiki posted:Tomb is a simple tool to manage encrypted storage on GNU/Linux. Among its features are bind-hooks to set up a tomb's contents in the place where other programs expect them, for example in our case mount -o bind the .bitcoin directory in a user's home. your mom will totally be at home with this procedure (to be fair, they replaced this loving shitshow of a page with a simplified version a couple of weeks ago. the trouble is that you do still actually have to know an absolute shitload of technical detail to store bitcoins securely.) divabot fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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divabot posted:it's ok! being your own financial institution chief security officer is totally easy and straightforward quote:Time-locked wallets EVERY aspect of this thing seems thought through for about 75%, the rest is just hand-waving.
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QuarkJets posted:the insurance agreement only covered the physical theft of bitcoins.
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QuarkJets posted:Personally I thought that Bitcoin: Civil War was only okay, I was a much bigger fan of Bitcoin: CARL MARK FORCE IV I'm seriously disappointed there's still no Coen Brothers-ish movie based on the escapades of the Bitcoin community. Seems like there's a lot of material to mine there. (Pun intended).
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cryptonuts please post more pictures of your bank accounts so you can have a sense of worth before they get hacked
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Tiberius Christ posted:cryptonuts please post more pictures of your bank accounts so you can have a sense of worth before they get hacked 
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FogHelmut posted:You're including electricity too right? Yep, I use cryptocompare tools which let you specify power consumption and $/kwh, and it takes current difficulty/price into account, but not future difficulty increases or price shifts. Which means that when ETH skyrockets to $8k that mining rig that had ROI of 6 months will be more like 6 days! 
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I want to short bitcoin. It was 10,400 in cad bucks last night. I watched that movie where autist Christian Bale phones some companies and they're like "Nobody bets against realestate!" And then he made a bunch of money while air drumming to Creeping Death.
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jonathan posted:I want to short bitcoin. It was 10,400 in cad bucks last night. I watched that movie where autist Christian Bale phones some companies and they're like "Nobody bets against realestate!" And then he made a bunch of money while air drumming to Creeping Death. You're going to run into the same issues that they did where the people you're betting against will manipulate the market for as long as possible. Although at the same time I'm dying laughing just thinking about that comment where a Bitcoin proponent said trying to cash out 1.5 million would crater the market.
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I prefer buying local and risking getting stabbed buying (empty) usb drives from strange nerds. Shop local, don't support your big box Bitcoin stores
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jonathan posted:I want to short bitcoin. Do not do this.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Although at the same time I'm dying laughing just thinking about that comment where a Bitcoin proponent said trying to cash out 1.5 million would crater the market.
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Uranium 235 posted:it wouldn't. on GDAX, selling $1.5 mil of bitcoin right now would drop the price from $8158 to $8120 So its essentially a low volume penny stock?
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Uranium 235 posted:it wouldn't. on GDAX, selling $1.5 mil of bitcoin right now would drop the price from $8158 to $8120 How do you get that number and does it take into account what other people do when they see $1.5 million sold? Not a smart rear end question, I'm actually curious. This whole thing is fascinating to me
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Uranium 235 posted:it wouldn't. on GDAX, selling $1.5 mil of bitcoin right now would drop the price from $8158 to $8120 except the order book is full of spoofer bots, so any orders down or up will jump away from you with any volume
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COMRADES posted:Do not do this. this is funny because why not just put all your money and max out as many loans as possible going long?
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You should do neither of those things.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:How do you get that number and does it take into account what other people do when they see $1.5 million sold? Not a smart rear end question, I'm actually curious. This whole thing is fascinating to me
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Daily volume for BTC/USD is in the billions, there is a buyer and seller for each of those transactions, so no, selling $1.5 million in BTC would not crash the market. edit: actually since BTC transactions are public, there are probably "whalewatchers" who would notice if someone with thousands of coins was mass selling them and that could lead to a chain reaction crash, but again I think 1-2 million is too small relative to bitcoin daily volume GastonEatTheEggs fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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GastonEatTheEggs posted:Daily volume for BTC/USD is in the billions, there is a buyer and seller for each of those transactions, so no, selling $1.5 million in BTC would not crash the market. Is that for all crypto exchanges or just one?
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