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The Muppets On PCP posted:lol i forgot gibson's thrown all their money into the home stereo market because that's totally booming and consumer electronics isn't one of the lowest-margin industries on earth Holy poo poo, that was all in like the last 5 years too. What the hell were they thinking? Every analyst in the company must've been shrieking "NOOOOOOOOOO" at the top of their lungs.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 01:55 |
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Anime Reference posted:Holy poo poo, that was all in like the last 5 years too. What the hell were they thinking? Every analyst in the company must've been shrieking "NOOOOOOOOOO" at the top of their lungs. Shortly before they got fired by jusciewhatever
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 01:58 |
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My favorite story about Gibson is when they hired some marketing person to come help them with their image because they were failing horribly, then that person had a meeting with CEO Henry and started asking basic questions like “so, what is your current marketing strategy, and what do you envision your future marketing looking like?“ to which Henry smugly smiled and scoffed and said something like “yeah, I bet you’d like to know that wouldn’t you.” Bitch your company hired this marketing person because your marketing strategy has obviously sucked horribly to the point you need outside help. How delusional do you have to be to look at the marketing professional you just hired to fix your image and openly taunt them about how great your image and marketing is. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:There's a home stereo market? at the super high end like mcintosh and poo poo not teac and onkyo and philips
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:20 |
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Also all the money is in regular rear end cables that you can sell at a 95% margin because audiophiles are gullible idiots I assume, I don't really know what the margins on the other stuff are like, probably healthy though
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:21 |
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Anime Reference posted:Holy poo poo, that was all in like the last 5 years too. What the hell were they thinking? Every analyst in the company must've been shrieking "NOOOOOOOOOO" at the top of their lungs. i'd like to think at least one person there saw the coming baby boomer mass extinction and tried to do something about expanding their sources of revenue, but when filtered through henry juszkiewicz it became "hey let's buy up a bunch of stereo companies nobody's bought anything from in 20 years"
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 02:36 |
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GreatGreen posted:My favorite story about Gibson is when they hired some marketing person to come help them with their image because they were failing horribly, then that person had a meeting with CEO Henry and started asking basic questions like “so, what is your current marketing strategy, and what do you envision your future marketing looking like?“ to which Henry smugly smiled and scoffed and said something like “yeah, I bet you’d like to know that wouldn’t you.” That's some solid Art of the Dealing right there.
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Anime Reference posted:Holy poo poo, that was all in like the last 5 years too. What the hell were they thinking? Every analyst in the company must've been shrieking "NOOOOOOOOOO" at the top of their lungs. When companies get into trouble the heads decide that DO SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'RE NOT DOING is the answer, because acknowledging the current faults of the company (or realizing you need to scale the company down to be profitable) are unthinkable to them.
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# ? Nov 22, 2017 19:18 |
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Diversifying is not in and of itself a bad thing (as far as I know, I'm hardly some financial whiz) but diversifying by investing heavily into an industry that's due for a crunch even more severe than yours seems extraordinarily dumb.
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Anime Reference posted:Diversifying is not in and of itself a bad thing (as far as I know, I'm hardly some financial whiz) but diversifying by investing heavily into an industry that's due for a crunch even more severe than yours seems extraordinarily dumb. Totally agreed, but with them it's: 1) When companies do it as a knee-jerk thing without thinking. I mean maybe Gibson thought that over, but it seems like they just picked stuff based on mining their loyal (and shrinking) older and richer diehard fanbase despite that showing diminishing returns 2) When they don't actually address the original part of the company failing. At best the other divisions can prop up an ailing guitar division, but it'd be a lot smarter to fix the guitar problem. I don't know whether to feel bad for them being painted into a corner of having to release the exact same guitars every year or be pilloried for changing. Maybe that's the market they cultivated, but still, that's dumb. Still at the very least they should understand that CNC machines in China make pretty drat good guitars, so if they want to sell American-made, great, they just have to not put everything on such a stupid upsell for the features. All of their new ideas are behind a $3000 paywall because of AAAAAAAAA MAPLE TOPS and other cosmetic bullshit and tonewood and they're wondering why people aren't buying bog-standard guitars at three times the price as a similar competing model.
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# ? Nov 23, 2017 00:25 |
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You forgot about the part where despite the $3k paywall the quality control is infamously lovely these days and you might well get a guitar that can't stay in tune through a song because somebody cut the nut wrong.
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If they're worried about diluting their brand they could just do what Fender does and have, y'know, other brands. According to Wikipedia their only instrument-building subsidiaries besides Epiphone are Kramer and Steinberger, neither of which are doing jack or poo poo ATM as far as I can tell.
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stillvisions posted:When companies get into trouble the heads decide that DO SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'RE NOT DOING is the answer, because acknowledging the current faults of the company (or realizing you need to scale the company down to be profitable) are unthinkable to them. when they're seriously in trouble they start expanding really quick to use whatever cash on hand (or they just get leveraged all to hell if we're talking about venture capital) to buy up assets that they can use during or to stave off bankruptcy it's why sears is still lumbering along despite nobody having shopped at one since 1997 because they own an ungodly amount of real estate The Muppets On PCP fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Nov 23, 2017 |
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Anime Reference posted:If they're worried about diluting their brand they could just do what Fender does and have, y'know, other brands. According to Wikipedia their only instrument-building subsidiaries besides Epiphone are Kramer and Steinberger, neither of which are doing jack or poo poo ATM as far as I can tell. They tried selling them direct through musicyo.com which no longer exists. I had bought a Kramer Vanguard(Rhodes style V) through them it had the quad humbuckers which were pretty stupid looking back on them. I ended up selling it to guitar center for more than I bought it for because the guy thought it was "cool".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEh4WdsJ8EE&t=80s
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# ? Nov 23, 2017 03:57 |
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GreatGreen posted:How delusional quote:Henry Juszkiewicz The Cakewalk forums have a few posts that ask for Cakewalk to be open sourced. Alas, if there's no developer there who's going to really quickly make a copy of whatever's in their version control system and releases it Snowden-style, this is not ever going to happen, because: quote:Henry Juszkiewicz
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# ? Nov 23, 2017 09:06 |
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Gibson be like
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# ? Nov 24, 2017 03:01 |
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From a Reverb listing.
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 11:06 |
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Ribbed... for uh... his pleasure?
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 15:01 |
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Did somebody try to make a shredder out of a Peavey T-60?
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 15:42 |
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Why scallop bass why whyyyyyy
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 15:44 |
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Anime Reference posted:Did somebody try to make a shredder out of a Peavey T-60?
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 15:46 |
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Wow, I didn't even notice it was a bass. Why in God's name... I know Billy Sheehan does it but Billy Sheehan is a deeply silly man and should not be emulated.
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 15:48 |
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Also I like how it's trying to blend in with the floor out of shame
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 15:49 |
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That sucks but what doesn’t suck is buying that and starting a one man bass tribute to Yngwie Malmsteen.
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 15:58 |
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Kilometers Davis posted:That sucks but what doesn’t suck is buying that and starting a one man bass tribute to Joey DeMaio.
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 19:29 |
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Dude who commissioned this should've bought a Gretsch instead.
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 21:50 |
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Anime Reference posted:Dude who commissioned this should've bought a Gretsch instead. So did a jazz trio that only does Liberace covers order that?
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 21:56 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:So did a jazz trio that only does Liberace covers order that? I was thinking irony-poisoned alt-country guy, that seems like the sort of thing you'd sport while wearing a Nudie suit.
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 22:00 |
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Anime Reference posted:I was thinking irony-poisoned alt-country guy, that seems like the sort of thing you'd sport while wearing a Nudie suit. You'd need a sequined cape and 16 rings on your fingers
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 22:36 |
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Anime Reference posted:Dude who commissioned this should've bought a Gretsch instead. gotta admit cladding a guitar in laminate kitchen countertop samples from home depot is a novel approach
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# ? Nov 26, 2017 23:54 |
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The whole body is pick guard at that point so now that other pick guard is there for extra protection.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 03:35 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RanUlnKcvmI&t=150s Unsuccessful gimmicks are the best.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 06:03 |
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Rugoberta Munchu posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RanUlnKcvmI&t=150s Take off the mask Henry, we know it's you
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 21:45 |
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Jesus Christ. I'm the shallow cutaway that prevents access to anything higher than the 17th fret.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 21:57 |
GreatGreen posted:Jesus Christ. It's like someone didn't understand what cutaways are for. That's a mirrored BCR Warlock shape. Why mirrored? It would have been quite funny if it was playable, but flipping the shape means the top frets are out of reach. It's not like with the Ibanez Iceman/Fireman.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 22:53 |
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That thing was built from scratch by a guy over at the tdpri forums. http://www.tdpri.com/threads/1959-warlock-les-paul-reverse.556998/ It's a pretty nice build just an unfortunate shape. This is coming from someone who owns a warlock guitar and bass.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 23:24 |
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kjetting posted:It's like someone didn't understand what cutaways are for. Maybe it's left-handed and they don't understand what pickguards are for. Or why knobs are placed where they are. Or, uh... which way up you typically string a guitar.
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Does anybody here have any experience with Chibson guitars, or Chinese knockoff Gibsons? I figured if anywhere, this would be the thread for it. I’ve heard that if you’re willing to replace the crap electronics and do a bit of setup work, you can get a really solid framework of a guitar for cheap, but I’ve never really spoken to anyone who has played one.
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