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Hbomb who did the Thunderf00t impersonation in the Sargon petition video? The mimicry is uncanny.
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Calaveron posted:Isn't the babadook thing just based off a Netflix genre goof and it's actually super homophobic to make It and Babadook homosexuality metaphors
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Nov 23, 2017 06:51
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business hammocks posted:I’m sick to death of the superhero genre and especially the marvel brand. I don’t understand how that poo poo hasn’t gone off a cliff yet. Weirdly enough it's Fox that's starting to actually shake up the formula a bit. Deadpool and Logan were both very good superhero movies that worked with new ideas for the genre, and regardless of how The New Mutants turns out it's at least a dramatic departure from anything Disney or Warner Bros. has tried. I feel like a big part of the reason superhero movies are getting tiresome is that it's all done by just three studios, all of whom are huge and thus very risk averse, and also have huge marketing budgets so even if you never bother to see Justice League you're still gonna have the trailers, commercials, and cross-branding promotions with M&Ms shoved in your face for weeks if not a couple months. It gets even worse when the fans actually like a movie and start churning out memes and now your chosen meme site is getting flooded by lovely gifs and stupid memes of a movie you've never seen but have now probably digested at least a couple hours worth of advertising for.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:your chosen meme site What the crap
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Mr.Radar posted:Dan Olson dives into Elsagate: For some reason I found him reading the full titles aloud every time really funny. Also the more I hear the more it seems like internet advertising is a massive scam but it's keeping everyone's lights on so whatever?
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Nov 23, 2017 09:09
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Puppy Time posted:What the crap some people like reddit, some people like 9gag, I don't judge
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Nov 23, 2017 09:11
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Mraagvpeine posted:What are some dead genres that could use some new life? The courtroom drama genre?
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Nov 23, 2017 09:23
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Genocyber posted:The Netflix thing was a goof but I think it was mostly queer people boosting the meme so I wouldn't necessarily call it homophobic. The It one was trying to force the same lightning twice and it just didn't work. The meme was kinda funny, but a lot of the thinkpieces were absolutely, and often unintentionally, homophobic. Like my friends and I all balked at this story which has become sort of an in-joke. It's obviously well-meaning, but it doesn't work its attempt to align queer people with monsters and demons well enough to sand off the unfortunate implications of that.
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Nov 23, 2017 10:12
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To clarify on my earlier Babadook post. Any attempt to align Pennywise with queer identity is 100% whole bore homophobia and honestly very disturbing.
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The superhero genre has had such longevity because, despite the studios’ tendency to repeat the same patterns, it’s actually a very flexible genre. The X-Men films, Logan, and the TV series Legion are all based on characters from the same comic book and yet they’re completely different. I think that having a preexisting stable of characters and ideas paradoxically gives writers the freedom to use those ideas in new ways. It doesn’t always work, and sometimes an experiment completely shits the bed like with Man of Steel, but just having then the brand name ensures it’ll make a profit regardless. I agree that a lot of this potential for experimentation is being wasted by the big studios, but even in the most formulaic movie, the little details can save it and make it worth watching. Those character moments that make you laugh, or make you care about what’s going to happen to the characters even though you know they’ll win in the end. Every movie, and indeed every story starts to look similar if you break it down to a very brief summary of the plot, but plot summaries aren’t what most viewers care about. Whatever your favorite movie is, I can all but guarantee that the reason it’s so good has more to do with the acting and the direction than the broad strokes of the plot. People have been complaining about superhero fatigue for years now, but this doesn’t seem to be reflected at the box office. Studios will stop making them after people stop buying tickets to them (see Universal’s aborted attempt to start their own expanded universe) which isn’t going to be happening anytime soon.
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business hammocks posted:I miss “serious” animated adventure movies, like Don Bluth poo poo and rotoscoped Lord of the Rings with songs about Biblo. I want these so, so much, and if I am ever in a position of power I will abuse it to see more of these get made Arcsquad12 posted:Hbomb who did the Thunderf00t impersonation in the Sargon petition video? The mimicry is uncanny. Libertarian Socialist Rants! Hbomberguy fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Nov 23, 2017 |
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*Clenches fist as a tear rolls down my face* It's the little victories.Measly Twerp posted:Because of EA being a bag of dicks with Battlefront 2, loot boxes are now being investigated by multiple governments around the world, with Hawaii state representative Chris Lee calling the game a "Star Wars themed online casino". Shame about that Neuto Netricy thingo or whatever it's called tho.
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Wasn't is this very thread where someone said to just shut up about lootboxes cause nothing would happen
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Leal posted:Wasn't is this very thread where someone said to just shut up about lootboxes cause nothing would happen It was every thread, because that's always the response to these things: it keeps happening, so some people get tired of hearing it and try to shut it down for whatever reason.
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I own up to it, but it was more over it being rambled over other matters than sneering at its importance.
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SO those weird kids videos. Is it true to that they are made by a procedural AI? I always though that was a creepy pasta thing.
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BigRed0427 posted:SO those weird kids videos. Is it true to that they are made by a procedural AI? I always though that was a creepy pasta thing. They clearly have human made components (the basic modelling, rigging, and animation at a skeletal level), and at that point it's pretty interchangeable whether you have humans hand-pasting the new models into the templates and hitting the render button, or a script doing it. For the ones that have actual scenes (like the elsa spiderman ones), while the scenes are certainly handmade, it's also hard to tell if the scenes are put in order by a human. I guess it comes down to who is making this and how many people they're paying. Because if this is some one or two person project they probably wrote a script, but if they have people on payroll to make new scenes anyway, might as well have them do double duty putting scenes in a vaguely coherent order or drop models into templates in their free time. If it is a script, they probably hand-tag the scenes and use some basic Markov generator on the tags so they come out in an order that you'd roughly suspect (e.g. this scene can only occur in a terminal position). Procedural AI sounds a bit more technically far reaching than the operation is if automatic generation is involved at all. If I had to guess, it's probably a mix. The more complex ones probably have a human copy+paste, but things like the titles and basic finger family vids are almost certainly randomly generated. And there are probably a few in there someone hand-picked because they seemed particularly ridiculous. As Dan mentioned, it's one of those things where it's indistinguishable either way; they're made to optimize ad revenue against a gameable algorithm, not human readable coherency. E: You may also be thinking of a creepypasta series Night Mind did a video on called Hey Kids (NM vid linked) that was probably inspired by exactly these channels. Linear Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Nov 23, 2017 |
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Mr.Radar posted:Dan Olson dives into Elsagate: I get that the titles are mostly there to light up search engines, but why "pregnant"?
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e X posted:I get that the titles are mostly there to light up search engines, but why "pregnant"? Dan actually addressed that in the comments: 
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Terrible Opinions posted:To clarify on my earlier Babadook post. Any attempt to align Pennywise with queer identity is 100% whole bore homophobia and honestly very disturbing. Yep, though I'll give the benefit of the doubt that most of those pushing the meme attempt were only familiar with the new film and maybe the Tim Curry TV special as a distant memory. Because the stuff that happens in the novel manipulating some local homophobes into beating an open gay man to death and then It starts eating his corpse, multiple sexual assault threats to the kids etc. basically make Pennywise the worst possible character to read any kind of Queer identity into it. Hell the reveal at the end Its physical form is a giant alien spider that's been busy laying eggs alone pretty much kills the interpretation. Its a good thing it died off really, if it had caught on the social sites would've been a lot uglier.
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Linear Zoetrope posted:They clearly have human made components (the basic modelling, rigging, and animation at a skeletal level), and at that point it's pretty interchangeable whether you have humans hand-pasting the new models into the templates and hitting the render button, or a script doing it. Where I'm leaning at the moment is that the scenes are human-made, just in the laziest way possible, lots of scripts, lots of copy/paste, but ultimately a human pushing the button. Most of the finished videos seem to be assembled by a bot, since they're clearly themed off keywords like eyes, pregnant, wrong heads, fights, and whatnot. The bot also has to populate hundreds of channels with new videos every day. So humans crank out bad animation into a library of scenes, and a bot assembles the scenes into videos and uploads them to a few hundred YouTube channels.
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FoldableHuman posted:Where I'm leaning at the moment is that the scenes are human-made, just in the laziest way possible, lots of scripts, lots of copy/paste, but ultimately a human pushing the button. Most of the finished videos seem to be assembled by a bot, since they're clearly themed off keywords like eyes, pregnant, wrong heads, fights, and whatnot. The bot also has to populate hundreds of channels with new videos every day. But, does that tech actually exist outside of Google's deepest basement?
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BigRed0427 posted:But, does that tech actually exist outside of Google's deepest basement? Oh, yeah, you can script FFMPEG to randomly stitch videos together, no problem. Auto-uploaders and schedulers you can buy off the shelf.
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Baka-nin posted:Yep, though I'll give the benefit of the doubt that most of those pushing the meme attempt were only familiar with the new film and maybe the Tim Curry TV special as a distant memory. Because the stuff that happens in the novel manipulating some local homophobes into beating an open gay man to death and then It starts eating his corpse, multiple sexual assault threats to the kids etc. basically make Pennywise the worst possible character to read any kind of Queer identity into it. Hell the reveal at the end Its physical form is a giant alien spider that's been busy laying eggs alone pretty much kills the interpretation.
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Generally from what I saw, it was mostly straight allies trying to push the "Pennywise is gay" meme, and getting super loving defensive when LGBTA* people called them out for the poo poo people have mentioned above. Been seeing this with Jeff Goldbloom's character in the new Thor as well, a flamboyant slave-brokering Space Tyrant, totally the best representation queer people are craving. That kind of performative pop-progressivism is tiring.
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SteelMentor posted:Been seeing this with Jeff Goldbloom's character in the new Thor as well, a flamboyant slave-brokering Space Tyrant, totally the best representation queer people are craving. Valkyrie was meant to be bi but the main scene showing that was cut.
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SteelMentor posted:Generally from what I saw, it was mostly straight allies trying to push the "Pennywise is gay" meme, and getting super loving defensive when LGBTA* people called them out for the poo poo people have mentioned above. Iunno, weirdly enough a bunch of the artists I've seen doing the stuff are some flavor of LGBT, it's not great but it's an odd complicated thing.
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Yardbomb posted:Iunno, weirdly enough a bunch of the artists I've seen doing the stuff are some flavor of LGBT, it's not great but it's an odd complicated thing. Which is somewhat curious because in the book when someone catches a glimpse of Pennywise's true form, it's not clearly described beyond the fact that it's actually female, and it's merely presenting itself as a male clown in its "default" form.
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I suspect there's a fair amount of queer kids with a clown/monster fetish uncritically passing the meme around. The internet has gotten really weird.
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Puppy Time posted:I suspect there's a fair amount of queer kids with a clown/monster fetish uncritically passing the meme around. There’s definitely at least one Pennywise dildo model that’s selling well on the internet. Now you can’t ever forget that. You’re welcome.
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endolithic posted:
You could just full stop at "massive scam". It keeps an ever-dwindling number of people's lights barely on because they haven't been hosed over yet. The only people who make serious money off it are the idiots who shovel money into Google (directly or through a hugely complicated and intentionally obfuscated series of ad networks)-- and the scammers who abuse the ad systems to distribute malware via phishing scams and security exploits. It's a zero-sum between Geek Squad making money cleaning malware, and IT people who have to do dozens of free hours of work for family members to unfuck their PCs. It's a shitpile of poo poo that I can't wait to see collapse. In the meantime, I'll keep pumping my money as directly to creators as possible. Which reminds me-- @FoldyDan: PATREON ALREADY?!? =P
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Well, I'm out of Shaun videos and now I'm sad. How often does he usually update?
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Nuebot posted:Well, I'm out of Shaun videos and now I'm sad. How often does he usually update? Pretty rarely, sadly. Or I guess not sadly, because the slow update schedule means he's actually working on making a good product.
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nine-gear crow posted:Which is somewhat curious because in the book when someone catches a glimpse of Pennywise's true form, it's not clearly described beyond the fact that it's actually female, and it's merely presenting itself as a male clown in its "default" form. God if I had the skills I’d photoshop the movie cover to Her and put Mae Whitman on it
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Yardbomb posted:Iunno, weirdly enough a bunch of the artists I've seen doing the stuff are some flavor of LGBT, it's not great but it's an odd complicated thing. And for another perspective, I've only seen it done because it made a lot of people on tumblr mad. Like, well, this.  I was looking for some post that was like 'I'm touching your stuff I'm touching your stuff, now it's all gay forever' but I couldn't find it and I can't remember how it went either. So anyway, I have no idea why anyone's doing anything. It's honestly no different from most fanart in that things that actually happened don't really matter and people will do whatever.
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It started with the bug, then some queer media folks wrote a few "actually yea a story like this can be viewed through a queer lens too and that's fine" usually as a springboard to talk about the fact that historically horror is easily one of the queerest genres to study. Then some wads got all weepy trying to say the dirty gays are ruining their horror movie so naturally the joke became "nope babadook is a lovely gay goth who just wants love". It also helped that goth poo poo is very much in again, especially with lgbt circles so the style fit. Pennywise was a try to keep that joke going but yea it was met with a lot of "uuuuuh babadook is a physical form of sorrow and anxiety causing harm because people aren't working through their poo poo. Pennywise is a literal child predator. Different contexts there."
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lornekates posted:@FoldyDan: PATREON ALREADY?!? =P Either way I hope to make it ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣ.
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FoldableHuman posted:It's coming, it's coming, I'm gonna roll out the 2018 Brand Identity® at the same time, so there's stuff to do. My standards are too high. I've never been an early adopter, so I always agonize over getting it "perfect." This might be an odd and slightly inappropriate question, but I notice you favor raising one eyebrow a lot, is that something you do consciously or are you just unable to raise both at the same time? I only ask because for a while I had a condition that restricted movement on one side of my face (Bell's palsy) and the eyebrow thing reminded me of that time. Oh, also the video about the gaming of the algorithm was really top notch stuff, even for someone who was already pretty familiar with the whole Spiderman/Elsa weird YouTube hole, and I have to agree with whoever said earlier in the thread that I laughed whenever you read out the full title to the videos.
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FoldableHuman posted:Either way I hope to make it ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣ. I have been seeing this word more frequently as of late. It has about it the strange air of a meme I have not yet caught on to...
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