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violent sex idiot posted:the easiest part of the darker side is the ride on the platform with the spikey dudes jumping all around because you can just hang off the edge and watch them jump over you for the entire thing 
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violent sex idiot posted:the easiest part of the darker side is the ride on the platform with the spikey dudes jumping all around because you can just hang off the edge and watch them jump over you for the entire thing
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Nov 23, 2017 16:36
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Edge clinging gets you past lots of stuff, like the rolling rocks at the end of the underground Moon cave that you're supposed to charge through.
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Nov 23, 2017 16:39
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I pastebinned a guide to Darker Side: https://pastebin.com/sv0j8YLf It took me an evening or so to figure out, but most of my deaths were from getting bored and trying to run through quickly and the fireballs handling like poo poo. I found a few ways to bypass stuff that I don't think have been mentioned here. It has nothing on Champion's Road which took me a full two nights and Grandmaster Galaxy which took me weeks.
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Nov 23, 2017 19:05
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I'm honestly not loving the post game stuff much. I feel like 85% of this games difficulty comes from bad camera angles and lovely situational awareness. And there are just areas that desperately need some sort of checkpoint. Doing an entire section over and over because you can't hit the last jump because the camera decides to pan at a weird angle is so grating. The main game has the same problems too but it's just so easy it doesn't matter. As a Mario game I'm feeling at this point that this is one of my least favorite. As an exploration game it's pretty awesome but as a platformer it feels clunky. Still no regrets it's a lot of fun at times but this is never even gonna come close to touching the galaxy games for me.
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Nov 23, 2017 19:49
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So we played through the whole game in two player, meaning that we never needed to learn all the stupid jumping poo poo and were only playing it with a single joycon instead of two. The worst part of the game to me is that so many functions are tied to a single button. I just can't do the challenges in Dark Side that get rid of cappy because we've never learned to play without the two of us! We got every single blue X moon (except skipping and volleyball) and every single purple coin. It was pretty fun! But having to do the koopa races in single player when you're used to playing the other way sure does suck. I guess it's so you don't screw up the leaderboard but I really don't like that an option that's open for the rest of the game now doesn't work because of online leaderboard stuff  The rabbits are SUPER easy to kill when you have immortal cappy flying around though. Which is nice. quote:And there are just areas that desperately need some sort of checkpoint. Doing an entire section over and over because you can't hit the last jump because the camera decides to pan at a weird angle is so grating. Taear fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Nov 23, 2017 |
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Nov 23, 2017 21:30
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Taear posted:So we played through the whole game in two player, meaning that we never needed to learn all the stupid jumping poo poo You're missing out.
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Nov 23, 2017 22:41
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I don't know why you're playing a Mario game if you're gonna call platforming "stupid jumping poo poo"
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Nov 23, 2017 22:48
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I want a linear platformer like 3D World but with the stupid jumping poo poo of this game. I want to double jump dive all over a really hard platforming stage. I wish there were more stages in this game that were those kinds of stages
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Nov 23, 2017 22:54
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Macaluso posted:I want a linear platformer like 3D World but with the stupid jumping poo poo of this game. I want to double jump dive all over a really hard platforming stage. I wish there were more stages in this game that were those kinds of stages This and co-op would be so baller.
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Nov 24, 2017 00:30
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I'd be real disappointed if cappy isn't in succeeding games
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Nov 24, 2017 00:53
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Macaluso posted:I want a linear platformer like 3D World but with the stupid jumping poo poo of this game. I want to double jump dive all over a really hard platforming stage. I wish there were more stages in this game that were those kinds of stages What I really really wanted and was really anticipating was that somewhere in the game there would be a moon that absolutely required the double dive. And I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. It's great to create such an awesome movement system, but when your game doesn't actually utilise it to its fullest, I find it disappointing.
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Nov 24, 2017 00:59
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bef posted:I'd be real disappointed if cappy isn't in succeeding games Cappy will go wherever FLUDD went
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Nov 24, 2017 01:03
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Cappy will go wherever FLUDD went Smash?
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Nov 24, 2017 01:06
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There will probably be an Odyssey 2 at some point.
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Nov 24, 2017 01:31
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I said that as a joke, but I'd honestly be surprised if they DIDN'T put Cappy in Mario's moveset in the next Smash. There's so much you could do.
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Nov 24, 2017 01:39
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I pastebinned a guide to Darker Side: You made Part 3 far harder than you think it is; Just long-jump between the Bowser ramps.
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Nov 24, 2017 01:50
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https://clips.twitch.tv/CrispyVenomousThymeTheRinger Game is great, speedruns are great.
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Nov 24, 2017 02:59
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Waffleman_ posted:I said that as a joke, but I'd honestly be surprised if they DIDN'T put Cappy in Mario's moveset in the next Smash. There's so much you could do. You'd think that but they kept Link in Wind Waker/Twilight Princess form in Smash 4 despite some really cool things they could have done with later game stuff. Also kept Fludd despite Galaxy.
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Nov 24, 2017 03:45
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DACK FAYDEN posted:https://clips.twitch.tv/CrispyVenomousThymeTheRinger I helped develop this clip!
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Nov 24, 2017 04:41
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DACK FAYDEN posted:https://clips.twitch.tv/CrispyVenomousThymeTheRinger Did he discover that? I enjoy Trihex, good guy with a pretty entertaining stream.
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Nov 24, 2017 04:46
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Zore posted:You'd think that but they kept Link in Wind Waker/Twilight Princess form in Smash 4 despite some really cool things they could have done with later game stuff. I was thinking botw link would be cool, his heavy attack could just randomize a weapon and have it shatter each time.
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Nov 24, 2017 05:00
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I'm just hoping going forward in the smash bros and the mario karts they use his champion get up instead of just going back to twilight princess Link
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Nov 24, 2017 05:02
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Calaveron posted:I'm just hoping going forward in the smash bros and the mario karts they use his champion get up instead of just going back to twilight princess Link With Breath of the Wild being as massive of a hit as it was I'd be really surprised if it didn't get brought over to Smash. Twilight Princess Link would only have been replaced by Skyward Sword Link and people were pretty lukewarm on that game.
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Nov 24, 2017 05:06
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PantsBandit posted:With Breath of the Wild being as massive of a hit as it was I'd be really surprised if it didn't get brought over to Smash. Twilight Princess Link would only have been replaced by Skyward Sword Link and people were pretty lukewarm on that game. I mean they'd be leaving behind his signature look of 30 years but drat botw was a massive hit
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Nov 24, 2017 05:09
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Link using all the different weapon types would be cool
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Nov 24, 2017 05:11
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Raserys posted:Link using all the different weapon types would be cool Oh man yeah but they should make it to so that each one breaks after like 3 hits just to draw out as much nerd rage as possible. And you always have a 5% chance to pull out a pitchfork.
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Nov 24, 2017 05:12
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Calaveron posted:I mean they'd be leaving behind his signature look of 30 years but drat botw was a massive hit Breath of the Wild left a lot of signature aspects behind, tbh.
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Nov 24, 2017 05:17
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starting a petition for Link with option for Ancient Armour skin
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Nov 24, 2017 05:50
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DoctorWhat posted:I helped develop this clip! How? Give us some deets.
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Nov 24, 2017 05:50
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PantsBandit posted:Oh man yeah but they should make it to so that each one breaks after like 3 hits just to draw out as much nerd rage as possible. So Robin except with every move?
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Nov 24, 2017 05:51
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Waffleman_ posted:I don't know why you're playing a Mario game if you're gonna call platforming "stupid jumping poo poo" I mean learning loads of button combos to do stuff. It's a single button in two player and it works so much better.
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Nov 24, 2017 09:52
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Taear posted:I mean learning loads of button combos to do stuff. It's a single button in two player and it works so much better. It's not loving Mortal Combat. Jesus Christ. Jump. Throw. Crouch.  stop my brain was full after jump!
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Nov 24, 2017 14:28
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Reality Winner posted:How? Give us some deets. So there's this maneuver called "Roll Cancelling". You hit [B/A]+[Y/X] while rolling, you cancel the roll animation and free your movement while retaining full rolling speed. The hat throw animation Roll Cancelling invokes means you can't "bonk" against walls. Now, walls are just polygons that push Mario away. Sufficiently thin walls could be clipped through with enough speed if not for the "bonk" animation serving as a safeguard against high speed motion. So by doing a Ground Pound Roll, which produces a max-speed roll, and then Roll Cancelling that roll at point-blank, you can clip through certain walls. Speedrunner trying to optimize movement around the corner featured in the clip accidentally clipped through while using a roll cancel to take the sharp turn, and immediately set about reproducing it. What I developed was an input method to reliably Roll Cancel as soon as the Ground Pound Roll begins, without using Camera Mode to pause-buffer. You use X to start the roll, then roll your thumb to [Y+B] immediately. This makes the clip more consistent. DoctorWhat fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Nov 24, 2017 |
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Nov 24, 2017 14:47
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DoctorWhat posted:Now, walls are just polygons that push Mario away. Sufficiently thin walls could be clipped through with enough speed if not for the "bonk" animation serving as a safeguard against high speed motion. 
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Nov 24, 2017 15:35
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The Bloop posted:It's not loving Mortal Combat. Jesus Christ. Or, I can just press the right button on the second remote and do an extra high jump. I meant the dive, roll, triple jump (that never seems to work) and all sorts of other stuff all bound to the same button so you end up doing the wrong one. It's amazing being able to just ignore it all.
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Nov 24, 2017 15:58
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I agree. Having a second person play the whole time is much easier than learning a simple 3 or 4 button sequence in a game designed for kids.
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Nov 24, 2017 16:17
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RCarr posted:I agree. Having a second person play the whole time is much easier than learning a simple 3 or 4 button sequence in a game designed for kids. They're also the same controls used for the past twenty years in every 3D mario game since Super Mario 64. The only change is the cap-throw extra jump.
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Nov 24, 2017 16:20
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Taear posted:triple jump (that never seems to work)
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Triple jump does seem easier than it was in SM64. Though the issue always is it's easy to do when under no pressure but really hard when you are. I have been wondering what from this game might get referenced in future games. I'd be surprised if the next Mario Kart and Smash Bros didn't have a New Donk City stage. And possibly a playable Pauline in Mario Kart. (might have a New Donk scooter and/or taxi as car frames) It does seem like they've been trying to increase the female representation in Mario games (see also Toadette's appearance, a first for a 'main' series Mario game) so they probably had that in mind. And maybe a moon-themed Rainbow Road, though that might get spoilery.
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