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slidebite posted:The 146 is my favorite wee wittle jet Have you see the Dornier 328JET? It's better. But not British.  It's like a sleeker baby 146.
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Brovine posted:Have you see the Dornier 328JET? It's better. But not British. Dorkjet. Sagebrush posted:also yeah i would kill for a DCS F-106 so we could have a cool 3-way between the MiG-21 and its contemporaries Genie EVERYTHING.
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Brovine posted:Have you see the Dornier 328JET? It's better. But not British. Um yeah but it only has two donks so can only be half as good as the 146.
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BalloonFish posted:We Brits may have made some ugly military jets but we did turn out good-looking civils (mostly off the de Havilland drawing board): The Comet, the V-1000, the Trident, the HS-125, the VC-10, plus work on Concorde Even the 146 is well-proportioned with a good nose. The exception is the BAC 1-11, which is too fat and has the engines mounted too low (the F28 is much prettier). One of my favourite parts of going to Duxford is the row of 50s-70s British airliners they have on display:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_at_the_Imperial_War_Museum_Duxford#Duxford_Aviation_Society e: here's an album of the photos i took last time i was there https://imgur.com/a/SD9Jw Gibfender fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Nov 24, 2017 |
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Sagebrush posted:the Lightning is a big beautiful fighter jet that don't need no man I think the thing about the Lightning is that they look better the more of them there are in formation.
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Previa_fun posted:I think the thing about the Lightning is that they look better the more of them there are in formation.  Checks out. And there's always the proposed "Sea Lightning" with partial variable-geometry wings: http://www.gengriz.co.uk/sealightning2.htm 
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Brovine posted:Have you see the Dornier 328JET? It's better. But not British. I am sorry my good man, but perhaps you did not notice that it has two less babby engines. Therefore it by definition can't be better. 
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slidebite posted:I am sorry my good man, but perhaps you did not notice that it has two less babby engines. Therefore it by definition can't be better. I was going to quote you the An-148  But I cannot defeat your argument Also, Cubana is apparently buying An-148s 
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Previa_fun posted:I think the thing about the Lightning is that they look better the more of them there are in formation. The Lightning has that wonderful early jet age whizbang Buck Rogers look to it, same as the Century Series. BIG HEADLINE posted:
I wanna photoshop this so they're making a run in the Death Star trench.
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Nebakenezzer posted:I was going to quote you the An-148 underwing engines like some kind of a scrub  
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slidebite posted:I am sorry my good man, but perhaps you did not notice that it has two less babby engines. Therefore it by definition can't be better. There may be less of them, but the entire thing is more babby. Also, surprisingly loud.
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The awesome thing about the EE Lightning is that it was England's first supersonic fighter, and it did Mach 2. Not like the USA with the Century Series starting out barely breaking the speed of sound with the F-100 and then incrementing a few tenths of Mach at a time, just... with all the unknowns of supersonic design and flight, let's just jump balls-out straight to Mach 2. I also find it cool that it was so strung out for performance that it's fuel load was so absurdly low that it carried fuel in the flaps.
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Britain's first supersonic fighter, and not only could it reach Mach 2, but even the first prototype could supercruise just above Mach 1, and later versions could reportedly hit 1.3 without the afterburner. Not too bad for a design that predates the Warsaw Pact
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e.pilot posted:underwing engines like some kind of a scrub The An-72/74 and An-148/158 are two of my favourite planes, aesthetically, for reasons I can't quite explain. They're just really cute, goofy looking airplanes.
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e.pilot posted:underwing engines like some kind of a scrub Needs too much runway. 
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FuturePastNow posted:Needs too much runway. Bitch please Wikipedia posted:The An-72 has STOL capabilities: its takeoff roll is 620 metres and its landing run is 420 metres.[5] This aircraft was designed to be used on unprepared surfaces: its robust undercarriage and high-flotation tyres allow operations on sand, grass or other unpaved surfaces. http://www.beriev.com/eng/Be-200_e/Be-200_e.html posted:Take-off distance (water/land), m (The Be-200 is also loving awesome. It's like the ex-Soviets never ask whether something should be done, only if it can be done)
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dupersaurus posted:Best looking British plane Nah man, nah. Mossie's great and all but DH.88.    
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Sagebrush posted:Britain's first supersonic fighter, and not only could it reach Mach 2, but even the first prototype could supercruise just above Mach 1, and later versions could reportedly hit 1.3 without the afterburner. Not too bad for a design that predates the Warsaw Pact Also had a pretty fantastic climb rate, it was one of the best fighters for intercepting Concordes at cruise altitude.
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Sagebrush posted:Britain's first supersonic fighter, and not only could it reach Mach 2, but even the first prototype could supercruise just above Mach 1, and later versions could reportedly hit 1.3 without the afterburner. Not too bad for a design that predates the Warsaw Pact  but the difference between the Lightning and Arrow is that the Arrow never made it to proper production and AFAIK Englishmen don't lament how a Mk.X version could have loving flown to the moon and back, and would still be an active top of the line aircraft today.
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Gibfender posted:
I'd love a de Havilland Dove. It's like a leisure Mosquito.
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Sam Hall posted:Nah man, nah. Mossie's great and all but DH.88. Posting pics from Crimson Skies universe is cheating
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Gibfender posted:One of my favourite parts of going to Duxford is the row of 50s-70s British airliners they have on display: Yeah, the flight-line at Duxford is great. I have a 'thing' for the VC10 - I think it's one of the best-looking airliners (perhaps best-looking aircraft) ever made. Although the Britannia that's next to the VC10 at Duxford is a close runner. ' if you go to Brooklands you can go around the Sultan of Oman's personal VC10, which is 62 tons of marquetry wood, brown velour and gold lamé curtains and probably another four tons in Sony Trinitron TVs.
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I haven’t been to Duxford in years. Which is dumb, because it’s less than half an hour away. Thanks for reminding me to get my butt in gear and go!
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MikeCrotch posted:Posting pics from Crimson Skies universe is cheating Game idea: IL-2 engine, Crimson Skies-ish universe. 20s and 30s blimps and racers, pirate factions, alpine and tropical terrain, carriers as lairs, etc. Ground troops, think Mad Max does Duesenberg. If someone has a big fortune to invest on software development, we could make a small fortune out of this.
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Ola posted:Game idea: IL-2 engine, Crimson Skies-ish universe. 20s and 30s blimps and racers, pirate factions, alpine and tropical terrain, carriers as lairs, etc. Ground troops, think Mad Max does Duesenberg. If someone has a big fortune to invest on software development, we could make a small fortune out of this. Just poo poo out a kickstarter. Way, way worse (and less practical) ideas have been funded.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I wanna photoshop this so they're making a run in the Death Star trench. Right genre, but wrong film:  
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Ola posted:Game idea: IL-2 engine, Crimson Skies-ish universe. 20s and 30s blimps and racers, pirate factions, alpine and tropical terrain, carriers as lairs, etc. Ground troops, think Mad Max does Duesenberg. If someone has a big fortune to invest on software development, we could make a small fortune out of this. I'll buy 5 copies and or the stupidest Kickstarter level I can afford.
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slidebite posted:The same for No, we have the TSR-2 for that  You come across the occasional bitter Comet or Trident enthusiast as well, because they were going to rule the world and then we gave all the secrets to  BOEING Brovine posted:I haven’t been to Duxford in years. Which is dumb, because it’s less than half an hour away. Thanks for reminding me to get my butt in gear and go! The 'it's just down the road, I can go any time' syndrome is a devil. I went to Duxford every couple of years when I lived in Portsmouth (3.5 hours)and the Shuttleworth Collection (similar) but never went to Brooklands (1 hour). Then I moved up to Peterborough (1 hour from Duxford) and in the seven years I've been here I've been to there once and never to the Shuttleworth. But I've been to Brooklands about half a dozen times.
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Itzena posted:Right genre, but wrong film: I forgot how bad the fighters in that movie were. Chris Roberts is real bad at Space Opera.
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Jonny Nox posted:Chris Roberts is real bad at Space Opera. Chris Robers is really bad at lots of things Ola posted:Game idea: IL-2 engine, Crimson Skies-ish universe. 20s and 30s blimps and racers, pirate factions, alpine and tropical terrain, carriers as lairs, etc. Ground troops, think Mad Max does Duesenberg. If someone has a big fortune to invest on software development, we could make a small fortune out of this. I'm interested in the terrain. Mediterranean-ish? I've never played Crimson Skies, but I'm picturing lots of aircraft, somewhat customizable like in Interstate '76.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Chris Roberts is really bad at lots of things Getting dumb nerds to give him lots of money is not one of those things!
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Nebakenezzer posted:Chris Robers is really bad at lots of things Yes, definitely upgradeable, customizable planes. Crimson Skies had small isolated levels, a volcano type island, Hollywood and some other stuff. I would like something like GTA where there are big changes over small distances, like alps on one side of the map and jungle on the other. Just something that is cool as hell to fly over. And arcade/simulation difficulty setting so you could either just play it like GTA/Crimson Skies or you could mess with carb heat and magnetos and fly by dead reckoning in poor visibility over the pirate jungle, nervous about the engine quitting.
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Ola posted:Yes, definitely upgradeable, customizable planes. I heard the latest Zelda game sorta redefined the genre, so let's make it like that* *has played neither of the games in question, is still thinking about Interstate '76 mechanics Somebody message Rope Kid, I might be a good Video Game exec
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Jonny Nox posted:I forgot how bad the fighters in that movie were.
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Ola posted:Game idea: IL-2 engine, Crimson Skies-ish universe. 20s and 30s blimps and racers, pirate factions, alpine and tropical terrain, carriers as lairs, etc. Ground troops, think Mad Max does Duesenberg. If someone has a big fortune to invest on software development, we could make a small fortune out of this. I would pre-order this game and all DLC so loving fast...even if you just did the Crimson Skies rebuilt on the IL-2 1946 engine it would be amazing.
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Itzena posted:And now you know that they butchered a Lightning for every one of those props, too. Is there no end to Croberts' crimes?
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Sam Hall posted:Nah man, nah. Mossie's great and all but DH.88. Beat me to it Only £5000 new in 1934
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Ola posted:Game idea: IL-2 engine, Crimson Skies-ish universe. 20s and 30s blimps and racers, pirate factions, alpine and tropical terrain, carriers as lairs, etc. Ground troops, think Mad Max does Duesenberg. If someone has a big fortune to invest on software development, we could make a small fortune out of this. Soo... Tale Spin, the video game?
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boxen posted:Soo... Tale Spin, the video game? The Sea Duck will always be my favorite fictional plane.
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