Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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Mirificus: Oct 29, 2004; Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

# ? Nov 25, 2017 07:34

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VictorianQueerLit: Aug 25, 2017

Mirificus posted:

"A game can not be bad if it's being actively developed"

# ? Nov 25, 2017 07:39

BluesShaman: Apr 25, 2016; She wore Blue Velvet.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 07:41

BluesShaman: Apr 25, 2016; She wore Blue Velvet.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 07:43

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

BluesShaman posted:

Please don't doxx me. I am not proud of it.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 07:43

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

The absolute lack of any gameplay mechanics in the patch they released as a buggy pile of garbage a year behind schedule is the most compelling evidence of all that CIG has some amazing things held back. If you believe they don't, I'm going to need you to present evidence of the nonexistence of secret gameplay immediately.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 07:44

AbstractNapper: Jun 5, 2011; I can help

trucutru posted:

You have to be a special kind of person to truly invest the kind of effort (and money) these guys have invested in a non-existent game, for whatever reason they do. And when they break they do it in unexpected ways, which is actually why Roberts should be a bit more careful about the fan-base he has carefully groomed, some of those guys could be actually dangerous.

I very much agree with all of what you've said, and this paragraph in particular.

One thing that stuck to me from FTR's video is his early comment about how Crobberts is supposed to realize the backer's dream game and not his own. I mean the guy literally believed there is no problem with that statement for 6+ years. And he still believes that that's how it should be, which is why he melts down.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 07:49

Sarsapariller: Aug 14, 2015; Occasional vampire queen

Helpful Citizens posted:

I've been losing hair from bugs I've encountered so far in my 3.0 PTU experience, so I'd like to share and aggregate from others, all of the bugs we've run into, and how to avoid them.

1. After installation, you try to boot up the game and it errors out in the Amazon Lumberyard screen. It says "Couldn't find user information. CrashHandler will exit."
Problem: I believe this is because you tried to change the installation directory during download. I got this because I switched from my windows drive to my storage drive.
Solution: I had to re-download the game. It wouldn't allow me to verify the game's files, and any changes I made to "library location" failed to solve the problem.
2. Upon entering the game, and trying to play the Persistent Universe, the screen goes black, with no loading screen at all.
Problem: The game is actually loading it, there's just no loading screen. This black screen can last a VERY long time, like 20 minutes sometimes, but eventually you will get in.
Solution: There is none at this time.
3. Game crashes because your computer runs out of memory.
Solution: Don't run anything in the background of your computer. Open task manager (CTRL + ALT + DELETE) and close extraneous processes.
4. General server desync.
Problem: The SC servers are being stress tested and are failing the test. Even during the midnight hours when no one in your region is playing, there will still be desync until the developers fix the problem. This particular issue is causing SEVERAL other issues you will encounter.
5. Mobiglass won't stay open, or stay closed.
Problem: The desync is causing it (I believe) and spamming inputs, making it repeatedly open, close.
Solution: Do NOT keep smashing F1 to close the mobiglass. Just be patient and it will open eventually, or if you have to, press it 1-2 times, not 10-20. When closing the mobiglass, click the X on the top right instead of pressing F1.
6. Doors won't open, the context menu won't come up
Problem: I've encountered this several times, especially when the desync is bad. Try looking at the open-pad on the door holding F from several different angles, and if that fails try another door. Also make sure that you have armor, and an undersuit equipped because you can't go outside in a T-shirt. If that fails, you are poo poo out of luck.
7. I went to go sit down on a bench, and now I can't get up because there is no option.
Problem: You sat on the bench, now you're hosed.
Solution: You can't even kill yourself on this one (ALT + Delete). You have to go back to menu, then sit through that agonizing load-in (if there's even room for you in the server).
8. The caterpillar ramp didn't drop all the way down because I was standing under it, it booped of my head then stayed there.
Solution: Make sure you aren't standing under any dropping ramps on any ships, otherwise you can't use that entrance anymore.
9. I took too long to get in my ship that I spawned at Port Olisar and the station spawned another ship INSIDE of mine.
Solution: Run, run far away as quickly as you can. It looks funny, but walking up to observe this catastrophe will crash your game.
10. Quantum travel won't work!?
Solution: You have to have a destination selected via the starmap on the mobiglass, then there can't be any obstructions, and you need to be looking at it, at time of which you must press or hold B. If there is an obstruction while trying to quantum travel at your destination, it will unset your destination, and the target will disappear from your view (like, the blue diamond that has the station, planet, moon name.
11. I started climbing a ladder and now I'm stuck.
Problem: You'll get onto the ladder then it'll be impossible to get off. Well, you can but the game will like yank you back onto it.
Solution: After getting to the top or bottom of a ladder, stop giving input. Your character might stand still and you'll be freed from the clutches of the ladder. If not, try giving no input for just a little bit, then spamming movement keys.
Help
We've all been getting our butts kicked, please upboat this thread, and post any bugs that you've encountered so we can avoid also falling into the traps. If you haven't already, then make sure to report them on the RSI website as this is the entire purpose of the game at this stage.

This is after one day of public availability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4LEPGr4D4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E20cqPumHV4

# ? Nov 25, 2017 07:50

BluesShaman: Apr 25, 2016; She wore Blue Velvet.

Star Citizen: You sat on the bench, now you're hosed.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 07:58

Mne nravitsya: Jul 14, 2017

Combat Theory posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qnc13_DLpk

(its worth the watch)

This was fantastic! Thank you friend. What a meltdown he was having

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:00

Kosumo: Apr 9, 2016

Star Citizen 3.0: You sat on the bench, now you're hosed

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:08

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

Combat Theory posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qnc13_DLpk

(its worth the watch)

Quoting this so I can transcribe it later, this is purest gold right here

For balance I shall transcribe Astro & Boredgamer snippets too, especially the one Toops posted of the doors still not loving working and Astro giving it "the ships will eventually be DCS level of simulation"

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:15

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

SomethingJones posted:

Quoting this so I can transcribe it later, this is purest gold right here

I don't often listen to the youtubes, so this is really entertaining. Thanking you in advance!

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:19

Abuminable: Mar 30, 2017; Now, aside from the Abuminable, business goes on as usual.

SomethingJones posted:

Astro giving it "the ships will eventually be DCS level of simulation"

That would fit perfectly on this glide path to the worst game ever, should it ever be released. SC should be the most tedious, monotonous, unapproachable game ever created. Keybinds need to be created for every muscle in your character's model, with a modifier to contract or expand. No holding W to walk.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:21

Pantsbird: Nov 12, 2017; by Lowtax

Abuminable posted:

That would fit perfectly on this glide path to the worst game ever, should it ever be released. SC should be the most tedious, monotonous, unapproachable game ever created. Keybinds need to be created for every muscle in your character's model, with a modifier to contract or expand. No holding W to walk.

Digital QWOP Simulator. Hold Inner Thought to battle existential dread.

Star Citizen 3.0: You sat on the bench, now you're hosed

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:28

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Watching a stream of someone struggling with their ship, sitting on a Port Olisar pad, and I realized all the stars are heavily twinkling.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:30

NoNotTheMindProbe: Aug 9, 2010; pony porn was here

Looking forward to the Star Citizen branded custom QWOP HOTAS.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:30

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

XK posted:

Watching a stream of someone struggling with their ship, sitting on a Port Olisar pad, and I realized all the stars are heavily twinkling.

It's all the space nipple-gas turbulence in the non-atmosphere.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:33

Kosumo: Apr 9, 2016

It's the only way to master the flight deck internet spaceship launch dance.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 08:34

his nibs: Feb 27, 2016; Welcome to the
Dream Factory; Grimey Drawer

Combat Theory posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qnc13_DLpk

(its worth the watch)

this is great, comments are good

# ? Nov 25, 2017 09:11

Kramjacks: Jul 5, 2007

his nibs posted:

this is great, comments are good

Yup.

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# ? Nov 25, 2017 09:14

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

I'm playing that FailureToReport guy's Twitch streams from last night on my second monitor while doing some work (They're around 7 hours). I can see why he's so loving pissed in that video. This stream is a nightmare.

In this portion of the stream, he continued with still being held hostage for 5 minutes by the new nemesis, the ladder. Then he and a friend managed to meet up at Olisar, after the friend getting killed the first time by the landing pad. This is where I noticed the stars are twinkling like strobe lights. Then they went to Daymar, and spent 30 minutes flying in atmosphere trying to reach a mining colony, when all of sudden the ship just fell out of the sky and started skipping across the ground. They ran out of fuel, and had no idea because there's too much glare and too little contrast to read any of the displays.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/203852320

And they want to add holding people prisoner if they get captured by bounty hunters, or other time delay mechanics? What loving psycho would continue playing this game after the first time they get 45 minutes into a mission, then get jacked out of it and hit with some hour(s) long punishment?

# ? Nov 25, 2017 09:28

Fargin Icehole: Feb 19, 2011; Pet me.

almost 190 million and what do we get? a really janky Tribes 1 mod. This is really something else.

I mean this as a really janky tribes 1 mod that nobody is playing so you join a server with nobody and it still breaks apart

Fargin Icehole fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Nov 25, 2017

# ? Nov 25, 2017 09:40

Spiderdrake: May 12, 2001

XK posted:

And they want to add holding people prisoner if they get captured by bounty hunters, or other time delay mechanics? What loving psycho would continue playing this game after the first time they get 45 minutes into a mission, then get jacked out of it and hit with some hour(s) long punishment?

Just as they imagine their glorious, perfectly princely game will be unveiled just one version after the next they all share a similar delusion.

That delusion is whatever vicious mechanics won't apply to them, the princes of the cult, who will be able to glide through the verse and inflict those punishments on the scummy 'criminals'. Seriously dude, if you can imagine you're going to squeeze fun out of this fecal fire at the jpeg factory, you can imagine that too.

Plus you know, a paid pvp slider that protects you from having a bounty or something.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 09:44

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

These guys are ready to give up after just running out of fuel. What happens with the search and rescue mechanic when you have to stand around and kick rocks for 2 hours waiting for rescue? The injury mechanic when you need to wait for medical treatment? The prisoner mechanic when you need to sit around in custody? The long travel times when your lengthy mission, that you're hours into, needs to be started over? The time delay for ship insurance when you need to wait 90 minutes for your next ship?

Not even the most rabid supporter is going to be okay with any of that, the first time it happens to them. It's the anti-game.

Now they're realizing that with persistence they'd just be stuck there. "This is loving bullshit."

XK fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Nov 25, 2017

# ? Nov 25, 2017 09:53

Solarin: Nov 15, 2007

G0RF posted:

# ? Nov 25, 2017 10:04

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

G0RF posted:

if only thread titles could be gifs

# ? Nov 25, 2017 10:06

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

# ? Nov 25, 2017 10:11

Abuminable: Mar 30, 2017; Now, aside from the Abuminable, business goes on as usual.

Daztek posted:

If CIG drop a ship this week that tickles my fancy, I'm back in. That looks amazing.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 10:21

Solarin: Nov 15, 2007

Sarsapariller posted:

This is after one day of public availability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4LEPGr4D4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E20cqPumHV4

boy this one has Chris 'immersion means no loading screens' Roberts written all over it:

quote:

2. Upon entering the game, and trying to play the Persistent Universe, the screen goes black, with no loading screen at all.
Problem: The game is actually loading it, there's just no loading screen. This black screen can last a VERY long time, like 20 minutes sometimes, but eventually you will get in.
Solution: There is none at this time.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 10:33

alf_pogs: Feb 15, 2012

im so glad body horror stays in

# ? Nov 25, 2017 10:52

Spiderdrake: May 12, 2001

XK posted:

Now they're realizing that with persistence they'd just be stuck there. "This is loving bullshit."

So you're saying they were having lasting fun before the lovely mechanics crept up on them?

# ? Nov 25, 2017 10:53

AbstractNapper: Jun 5, 2011; I can help

G0RF posted:

Click to experience death by door.

Hundreds of people testing this, and this poo poo happens seconds after waking up from your wankpod.

Priceless.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 10:53

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Spiderdrake posted:

So you're saying they were having lasting fun before the lovely mechanics crept up on them?

More like they were having a miserable time, and then realized that misery might not go away via reloading the game.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 11:03

Raskolnikov: Nov 25, 2003

XK posted:

More like they were having a miserable ~~time~~ life, and then realized that misery might not go away via reloading the game.

Fixed

# ? Nov 25, 2017 11:08

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

AbstractNapper posted:

Hundreds of people testing this, and this poo poo happens seconds after waking up from your wankpod.

Priceless.

Door are hard, ok? This is never-seen-before stuff, a quantum leap in computer games. Besides, what part of "alpha" don't you get? how many AAAA games have you developed?

# ? Nov 25, 2017 11:51

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

ManofManyAliases posted:

Non taken, since I'm not Toast. I am, however, testing and reporting bugs in 3.0 - the very same that Smart said would never be released.

Good job, maybe pick something up during the sale, I think CIG need help there too.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 11:53

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010; Can't post for 2 hours!

3.0, just like the bug numbers, is just a number that they can arbitrary change and that doesnt really mean anything.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 11:58

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

Abuminable posted:

I watched the entire video. He made some great points, but the problem with FTR is his bipolar behavior. He's done, done, done with SC... until he's not -- and then we're back to a lovefest all over agin.

It's funny in part because as a backer, he's 4 years late in figuring out that Chris Roberts is a liar and acting like this is a revelation. Not that I disagree with most of his points at all but his gimmick voice is really painful to listen to.

# ? Nov 25, 2017 12:01

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Solarin: Nov 15, 2007

I can't believe that terrible moon texture and lighting is the best they could do after all this time

# ? Nov 25, 2017 12:02

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