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The reason is that's how he is in all the toys and we don't wanna get the kids confused as to what they want.
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What happened to the days when you'd give Megatron a hat so kids would have to buy Megatron With A Hat?
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Das Boo posted:What happened to the days when you'd give Megatron a hat so kids would have to buy Megatron With A Hat? or The Batman having alt. costumes specifically to advertise the toys. or just doing toy variants that doesn't have poo poo in the show - I sure remember a TMNT toyset with April having a tiger-mutation toy, when I'm sure that's an event that never happened in the cartoon. Watch as someone here proves me wrong.
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Macaluso posted:So apparently there's a Trolls holiday special on TV tonight? Why did no one tell me? Pick?? I saw ads for this and wanted to see it but I was busy fighting with my family.
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Argue posted:The guitar isn't magical; the guy in the office quite explicitly says that it's because he's cursed, since on Dia de Muertos, he took from the dead instead of giving them something. Not as bad as me somehow not quite catching what Héctor's name was until like halfway through the film, at least.
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Robindaybird posted:or just doing toy variants that doesn't have poo poo in the show - I sure remember a TMNT toyset with April having a tiger-mutation toy, when I'm sure that's an event that never happened in the cartoon. There's hundreds and hundreds of different TMNT action figures, I'd be amazed if every single one of them had a corresponding TV episode http://www.tmnttoys.com/
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Nov 25, 2017 16:20
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The Trolls Holiday Special still has that extremely bizarre style of humor I enjoyed in the first Trolls film. I'm always amazed though at bad/awkward rhymes in a production that takes tens of thousands of manhours though. Like you couldn't hire a lyricist or something to go over it?
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Argue posted:Just saw it; it was really good. While some beats were predictable, they were done well, and I'd say it was the best movie they've put out since their golden age from a few years ago when they had a winning streak which was broken by Cars 2. It didn't have any of the problems I was worried about based on the most recent couple of Pixar films (was worried it would be bland, or that they'd include a lot of unnecessary slapstick). Honestly, the Frozen short was Luckily, the movie itself was really great! The underlying concept of travel between here and the underworld was really fresh and well executed (aside from the eyeroll-inducing customs scenes.) Some of the Mexican-themed stuff was laid on kind of thick. But the music was lovely, and the ending was really touching. It's not on the level of Up, but it definitely has its place in the Pixar film canon. Just remember to show up about a half hour late.
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Guy Mann posted:Last time I went to Guitar Center a few weekends ago the front of the store right near the entrance was dominated by a big stack of Coco-branded guitars. That was the only real promotion I'd seen for the movie, but as someone without kids and who goes out of their way to not see ads I'm hardly the best judge.
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I don't see how the Frozen special would be an indicator of the quality of anything coming out of Pixar, as Frozen is a WDAS production and not a Pixar one.
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Waffleman_ posted:I don't see how the Frozen special would be an indicator of the quality of anything coming out of Pixar, as Frozen is a WDAS production and not a Pixar one. A combination of two factors: 1. A movie that is "too popular" is now a bad movie and 2. Things are worse now than they used to be. ... proves that all of us are getting old and crotchety 
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Waffleman_ posted:I don't see how the Frozen special would be an indicator of the quality of anything coming out of Pixar, as Frozen is a WDAS production and not a Pixar one.
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Pick posted:A combination of two factors: I honestly wonder if people complained about "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (which most of my friends consider a stone-cold classic) or "The Small One" back in the day. They're each about twenty minutes long as well and ran ahead of a feature. (Just got back from "Coco", and I adored it. And screw the haters, I loved "Olaf's Uncontrollable Christmas" too.)
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Rahonavis posted:I honestly wonder if people complained about "Mickey's Christmas Carol" (which most of my friends consider a stone-cold classic) or "The Small One" back in the day. They're each about twenty minutes long as well and ran ahead of a feature. I guess people have shorter attention spans and also how loving dare you put a 20 minute long video before the already 90 minutes long movie I've already committed time to watch
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Coco was lovely but also to me just reaffirms that Pixar is never ever breaking out of their comfort zone
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I thought Coco was excellent. Predictable in some ways but I thought they did a great job with the themes of family heritage and remembrance that aren't usual topics for these kinds of movies. I think it was a story that really has resonance coming out of a Hispanic cultural milieu and it was so much more effective than if it had been another caper set in Medieval Notfrance or whatever. I thought it was really touching and the stakes were REALLY interesting even if the structure of the story was nothing new. I think it's top tier Pixar for sure.
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Calaveron posted:I guess people have shorter attention spans and also how loving dare you put a 20 minute long video before the already 90 minutes long movie I've already committed time to watch
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Nov 26, 2017 03:49
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Coco is fantastic, probably my second-favorite Pixar production after Ratatouille. Also, with respect to the short KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I would be totally A-OK with this if it wasn't loving trash.
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Got back from Coco. It is, indeed, fantastic. Possibly the most genuine and personal that a Pixar movie has felt since Up. Only caught a bit of the Frozen short, read a book for most of it, it does feel far more childish than the movie and even the previous short.
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I saw Coco last night and enjoyed it very very much. You can see where it's going pretty easily but the movie is good enough that it doesn't matter. I have never seen Frozen so I don't have anything to say about the short, other than that it wasn't very short. Coco is worth sitting through it.
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I don't really have anything new to add, but I also really enjoyed Coco. One thing that's kinda weird that I've noticed Pixar likes to do is as the technology has gotten better, their texturing has gotten a lot more realistic even when they designs themselves aren't. I usually notice it on the environments. I noticed it especially on the great grandmother in this. Not Pixar, but I noticed the same thing in How to Train Your Dragon 2 back when I saw it. I'm not really sure what to think about it. It didn't really jump out at me until the end when you get a close up of the great grandmother's hands, but looking at screencaps online it's definitely everywhere. I'm not sure how I feel about it aesthetically. I'm leaning toward it being good, but just different than what I'm used to. I feel like Disney made that Frozen holiday short for TV and attached it to Coco because they were afraid the movie wouldn't sell on its own merits. It reminded me a lot of the holiday stuff Dreamworks makes and has a similar runtime. I feel like the reaction would be less negative as a TV special. I would've preferred seeing an original Pixar short. ThePlague-Daemon fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Dec 2, 2017 |
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Yeah, it's 20 minutes because it's meant as a bloc for TV. At least in the USA, it was likely repurposed as a draw for Coco. We think that's nuts but who knows. Coco didn't seem that well-advertised out here.
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Also, holiday specials tend to veer way more to a specific (younger) demo than films themselves, because kids can be plopped in front of a TV in a way that they can't be left alone in a theater. That's not always true, of course, but my best examples of them shaking out otherwise are old (such as The Small One, which was a 70s production).
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Frozen short at least wasn’t any worse than I would have expected a Frozen TV Christmas special to be, but it certainly wasn’t any better, either.
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I saw Coco during an early matinee and 3 rows were entirely reserved for various kids' birthday parties. There were multiple kids complaining about hating the Frozen short and at least 3 parents left to ask managers if they walked into the wrong movie. A maybe 7 year old girl saying "Mom, I don't want to watch Frozen anymore," in the most heartbroken voice you could imagine is one of the funniest things I've experienced in a movie theatre ever.
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 I hope it happens like in my country, where they removed the short like a couple of weeks later, after getting too many complains.Edit: The cinemas owners said it was a custom to remove shorts after a few weeks, most think is bullshit they made up just to avoid a backlash, then we had the social media drama of Frozen fans calling everyone who complained ,about the short or said it was mediocre, a bitter unfunny joyless person. Desperado Bones fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Nov 26, 2017 |
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Nov 26, 2017 23:49
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MorgaineDax posted:I saw Coco during an early matinee and 3 rows were entirely reserved for various kids' birthday parties. There were multiple kids complaining about hating the Frozen short and at least 3 parents left to ask managers if they walked into the wrong movie.
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Calaveron posted:I guess people have shorter attention spans and also how loving dare you put a 20 minute long video before the already 90 minutes long movie I've already committed time to watch Over time lots of things stopped needing to be in movies when better places were found to show them. Like how real old movies had weird pointless musical numbers or how so many 80s R rated movies have weird breaks in plots for softcore porn. Shorts before films used to make more sense because were else are you going to show a short?
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Just saw Coco, it was good and made me cry. It was also kind of formulaic, but that's not that much of a sin. Sitting through the Frozen "short" at the beginning sucked though. It would be fine if it was a made for TV special airing on the Disney Channel (which I strongly suspect it was supposed to be), but don't just randomly stick that poo poo in front of another movie. Someone in marketing really screwed up with that idea. Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Over time lots of things stopped needing to be in movies when better places were found to show them. Like how real old movies had weird pointless musical numbers or how so many 80s R rated movies have weird breaks in plots for softcore porn. Also it's a movie for children, which are known to be irritable and have short attention spans. Coco is already 149 minutes, add almost half an hour of Frozen on top of previews and showing up in time to get a seat and you're looking at over two and half hours, plenty of time for kids to get squirmy and irritable.
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Does anyone suspect then a different short was originally intended? Has another, properly Pixar short been announced, or anyone seen any concept work?
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Guy Mann posted:Also it's a movie for children, which are known to be irritable and have short attention spans. Coco is already 149 minutes, add almost half an hour of Frozen on top of previews and showing up in time to get a seat and you're looking at over two and half hours, plenty of time for kids to get squirmy and irritable. Coco is not 149 minutes, I have no idea where you got that number. It is 109 minutes long. (The only Disney or Pixar animated feature that breaks 2 hours is Fantasia. e: Interestingly, a number of Ghibli films do.) Pick fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Pick posted:Coco is not 149 minutes, I have no idea where you got that number. It is 109 minutes long. This looks like a pretty basic "gets an hour and a hundred minutes mixed up" mistake, which is pretty easy to make.
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Base sixty was good enough for the Sumerians, and by Enlil, it's good enough for me.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Sitting through the Frozen "short" at the beginning sucked though. It would be fine if it was a made for TV special airing on the Disney Channel (which I strongly suspect it was supposed to be), but don't just randomly stick that poo poo in front of another movie. Someone in marketing really screwed up with that idea. I mean, makes sense, given how Disney owns it and all, and it has wider reach than Disney Channel does (being not-cable).
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They realized it could not possibly compete with the Trolls holiday special because Trolls KICKS rear end!
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Every single post on twitter I see about Coco is the same: "I loved Coco it made me cry, I hated the Frozen short so much it was 20 minutes long too what the gently caress" Frozen Short isn't very popular it seems
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TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS! TROLLS!
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Pick posted:They realized it could not possibly compete with the Trolls holiday special because Trolls KICKS rear end! I'm watching this right now. And like. 6 minutes in. The uh... bus sequence. Is  edit: well that was cute. Trolls is good. Macaluso fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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