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Re: trans women in sports, muscle mass, distribution and density in trans women has the same variation and range as in cis women after a year of HRT. All the scaremongering and complaining about trans women out-competing cis women is simply transphobia, or at the very least fear borne of ignorance. Like taitale said, bone structure (so height basically) is about all that differs. There aren't many sports where height gives you an advantage - basketball and volleyball are about all I can think of, and even then it's not like the tallest players are necessarily the best.
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Nov 24, 2017 12:44
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The structure of the pelvis is an obvious counter example.
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Nov 24, 2017 13:26
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bike tory posted:Re: trans women in sports, muscle mass, distribution and density in trans women has the same variation and range as in cis women after a year of HRT. All the scaremongering and complaining about trans women out-competing cis women is simply transphobia, or at the very least fear borne of ignorance. Like taitale said, bone structure (so height basically) is about all that differs. There aren't many sports where height gives you an advantage - basketball and volleyball are about all I can think of, and even then it's not like the tallest players are necessarily the best. Oh, no poo poo? Well then I was very loving wrong.
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Nov 24, 2017 13:26
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Ratios and Tendency posted:The structure of the pelvis is an obvious counter example. Because so many sports hinge on the width of one's pelvis.
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Nov 24, 2017 13:38
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Maybe they're going to introduce a caving section to spice up the marathon at the next Olympics?
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Nov 24, 2017 13:41
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Slavvy posted:Oh I see what you're getting at. Yeah some sort of parity system would be good but how do you determine that? Weight is out because men are still more able for a given bodyweight. Not to mention for a huge amount of effort you would still be left with largely male only and female only brackets/events because the gap between the strongest/fastest woman and the bottom of the field in men is still sizeable. Yeah, but there's also the fact that in a bunch of sports where raw muscle mass is less important- like shooting, for example- women are absolutely able to mop the floor with men. In every single one of these sports the women's events have been deliberately changed so that the scores are no longer comparable with men's scores; usually this happens almost immediately after a woman starts to dominate a gender-mixed division. Don't get me wrong, men tend to dominate the sports that men dominate at, but there are a lot of less muscle-dependent sports where women are equally capable of wrecking poo poo.
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Nov 24, 2017 13:53
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is this hate speech
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Nov 24, 2017 17:41
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Anticheese posted:Because so many sports hinge on the width of one's pelvis. The only thing I can think of is snowboarding, because of the binding placement, and I am not 100% sure it would give you an advantage, and I am not 100% sure there is enough variation in hip width for it to matter. I've seen some men with some pretty wide hips and some women with some pretty slim hips.
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Nov 24, 2017 20:06
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athletics is all about basically being on the utmost top or bottom deviation for size and performance, and having a rich family or sponsor to raise you as a sports animal see : the movie "blades of glory" like aint no descendants of the shetland islands winning the sprints
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Nov 24, 2017 20:35
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quote:Dave Witherow lives in Dunedin. They should have run the piece with this image: 
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Nov 24, 2017 20:38
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bike tory posted:Re: trans women in sports, muscle mass, distribution and density in trans women has the same variation and range as in cis women after a year of HRT. All the scaremongering and complaining about trans women out-competing cis women is simply transphobia, or at the very least fear borne of ignorance. Like taitale said, bone structure (so height basically) is about all that differs. There aren't many sports where height gives you an advantage - basketball and volleyball are about all I can think of, and even then it's not like the tallest players are necessarily the best. Still it's good to have longer legs for running, bigger hands for catching etc
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Nov 24, 2017 21:13
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bike tory posted:Re: trans women in sports, muscle mass, distribution and density in trans women has the same variation and range as in cis women after a year of HRT. All the scaremongering and complaining about trans women out-competing cis women is simply transphobia, or at the very least fear borne of ignorance. Like taitale said, bone structure (so height basically) is about all that differs. Huh, I had no idea. I'm a little surprised that testosterone has such an impact on the maintenance of muscle mass (and not just growth). Somfin posted:Yeah, but there's also the fact that in a bunch of sports where raw muscle mass is less important- like shooting, for example- women are absolutely able to mop the floor with men. In every single one of these sports the women's events have been deliberately changed so that the scores are no longer comparable with men's scores; usually this happens almost immediately after a woman starts to dominate a gender-mixed division. This is extremely not cool.
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Nov 24, 2017 21:52
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Slavvy posted:This fuckwit needs a smack in the head what the gently caress. I wonder how he'd feel if people went around calling him Dah- vey Wither-Ow.
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Nov 24, 2017 22:04
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re: the earlier education conversationRNZ posted:...more than half the cases involved children with recognised behaviour problems. Twenty-three of the reports came from secondary schools, 79 from special schools, and 321 from primary schools. I know a bit about the Special Needs side of schools. As much as I love to hate the guy, I can't put the blame on Key it was well before his time, if you want to you could perhaps blame Ruth Richardson or even Roger Douglas. I suspect though that it was just a continuation of New Zealand's deinstitutionalisation from the 70's onwards. In as much as I recall, special needs classes started integrating the late eighties or early nineties which definitely involved some schools shutting down. The whole situation is complex and involves more time and money than the system has available or is willing to allocate. Given the existing structure or lack thereof, there are huge benefits for people who are on the high end of the spectrum if they can get educated alongside those who don't have special needs. Government support starts to disappear as soon as they leave the school system, many will end up joining the workforce in some capacity through groups like IHC. In the 90's the class sizes were about ten to fifteen students with a teacher who was experienced and to some degree had specialised in that area of education. Teachers in general also had access to a lot more teacher aid. Given the condition of our schools, social services and mental health system I would guess the situation will probably get worse before it gets better. Or it will just get worse as we continue our current trend of attempting to emulate the worst parts of the US system. Sadly there just isn't a lot of political capital involved especially when other issues are a lot more visible. The consequences of current policy will be something for a future government to deal with, just as we are dealing with issues stemming from policies that were put in place twenty to thirty years ago.
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Nov 24, 2017 22:31
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Ha, he's a friend of my dads. If he's the one I'm thinking of he is a hermit sort of character, many tottering stacks of yellowed newspaper.
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Nov 24, 2017 22:36
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echinopsis posted:athletics is all about basically being on the utmost top or bottom deviation for size and performance, and having a rich family or sponsor to raise you as a sports animal No it's not? Look at the height difference between Usain Bolt and that American dude who came second all the time. Like sure, no 5 foot dude is going to win the 100m regardless of his training, muscle and technique, but there is significant size variation is most sports. voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Nov 25, 2017 |
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Nov 25, 2017 00:46
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Nov 25, 2017 05:06
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Old man still tweeting at cloud.
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Nov 25, 2017 05:28
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My money's on it being a fake account
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Nov 25, 2017 05:30
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That's what I said but then he got a blue tick and elected to president of the US.
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Nov 25, 2017 05:45
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Hahahah
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Nov 25, 2017 07:10
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bike tory posted:No it's not? Look at the height difference between Usain Bolt and that American dude who came second all the time. Like sure, no 5 foot dude is going to win the 100m regardless of his training, muscle and technique, but there is significant size variation is most sports. Bolt was considered too tall for 100m and his coaches put him in 200 and 400 until he basically told them he was gonna enter the 100
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Nov 25, 2017 07:54
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In a shocking turn of events a rich old white man running a farm supplies company might be a bit racist and crazy. https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/99247542/sir-william-gallagher-claims-treaty-of-waitangi-coverup
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Nov 26, 2017 04:36
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Pretty cool how Labour winning triggered all the brain worms in these racist fucks.
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Nov 26, 2017 05:42
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what a loving worm
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Nov 26, 2017 05:52
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I am really conflicted - on the one hand, how is this news? I mean some old dickhead says racist stuff and it gets in the news? Why bother? But also, he is knighted and the public should know he is a racist gently caress. But why have such a nice photo? A lot of people will probably agree with what he says, he is afterall a successful knighted business man.
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Nov 26, 2017 05:56
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"A lot of people were squirming in their seats because the speech was so non PC. It certainly ruffled a lot of feathers." Our country is so racist that anonymous witnesses are too cowardly to name a spade.
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Nov 26, 2017 06:07
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Yeah, they weren't squirming because it was racist garbage, it's because he said the quiet part loud.
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Nov 26, 2017 06:33
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I guess a corollary of National being in power (and the culture that JK set within the party, to be fair to him) is that these racists kept their poo poo to themselves, but now the corks out of the bottle and they've got nine years of pent up bigotry to vent. The media def need to be asking themselves why they're publishing this hateful poo poo though. It's almost nostalgic for me, thinking back to my early political memories of National/Nat supporters bashing Maori. National are also saying beneficiaries will sign up for university courses just to get more money as students, which is really reminiscent of the line they ran when WFF was brought in of "people will have babies just for the cash".
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Nov 26, 2017 08:45
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I feel we need to bring attention to it and call it out when we see it. Otherwise it festers away hidden beneath the surface. Especially when it involves factually incorrect information which can be easily shot down.
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Nov 26, 2017 08:51
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Despite being a member of parliament, Nick Smith doesn't understand how our parliament works... http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/nick-smith-claims-national-won-the-election.html
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Nov 26, 2017 11:47
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Varkk posted:I feel we need to bring attention to it and call it out when we see it. Otherwise it festers away hidden beneath the surface. Especially when it involves factually incorrect information which can be easily shot down. Yeah but is there anything in the news article shooting it down, or is it just repeating his words verbatim?
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Nov 26, 2017 16:10
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ledge posted:Despite being a member of parliament, Nick Smith doesn't understand how our parliament works...
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Nov 26, 2017 18:31
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They are just going to keep hammering the election results because they want the narrative of the stolen election no matter how blatantly false it is to both undermine the governments current work, drive the base for the next election for another run at FPTP in a MMP system. They have killed all their "Friends". The lies become reality within their minds if it goes on for long enough and reality for us if we engage such absurdity in good faith. It's American right wing politics horror show. The response must be cutting them off with "gently caress of you lying dumb shits", not to engage them in polite conversation. The government is half way there by just ignoring them and just doing their job which is just fine, less energy wasted on them the better. Anybody get the mobile test civil defence signal? Been a heck of a long time since the last test and it made quite the racket.
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Nov 26, 2017 18:35
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It popped up on my phone but it didn't make any sound. Good to know I'll probably die in my sleep.
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Nov 26, 2017 21:05
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Same, even though the FAQ said it would over ride silence etc settings due to the emergency nature of the notifications.
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Nov 26, 2017 22:20
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Mine vibrated a whole bunch, but I feel that given I sleep through earthquakes on the reg, it should probably go a bit further and make some loud noises.
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Nov 26, 2017 22:55
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Oh he knows. It's a lot less "lol incompetence" and more that they're unhappy about the election result so they're trying to spin a line questioning its legitimacy. National's behaviour since their loss is honestly scaring me -- they're going deep down the Republican rabbithole and we do not need this country's politics to be any more like the US. Speaking of which, saw this the other day and it made me think along the same lines. quote:National's being accused of spamming Parliament, its MPs lodging more than 6000 parliamentary questions in the last month.  Thank gently caress for MMP.
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Nov 26, 2017 23:05
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/99254200quote:Undoubtedly, 6000 written questions in a month is a lot. looks like National have got some catching up to do!
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What I get out of this is we need to fire all the politicians and hire a bunch of diablo powerplayers to min/max the administrative system and go from there.
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