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maxallen posted:But why is my question - especially for the Browns, when Schiano has an NFL record (and it sucks) I would say Haslam is completely incompetent and that’s a good why.
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He can not be a great coach and still not deserved to be witch hunted on the back of some flimsy hearsay.
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Sir Thats Gross posted:gently caress Haslam. Also, to crate dig on some Haslam hate - gently caress him and his Webb School attending rear end. Canceling the Catholic-Webb football game was a bitch move. (Go Irish) gently caress Webb Demon Of The Fall posted:I would say Haslam is completely incompetent and that’s a good why. I’m just curious what his justification is. Because Schiano has a history as a disciplinarian or what?
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Sumlin is not the coach to win a natty with. A&M's problem is that they think they should be a Top X program every year despite not winning poo poo ever. And Johnny Football is not a generational talent c'mon. He was bailed out by Mike Evans every other pass attempt. If you want to make the (objectively false) "Johnny Football wasn't that great" case, a much stronger place to start would be his ridiculous 2012 offensive line that had four first-rounders on it. I also agree that A&M fans have unreasonable expectations, but I don't think it's asking too much that maybe we should have at least a top 25 finish somewhere in the past four years. Just because they're wrong about most things doesn't mean they were wrong to want to move on from Sumlin. General Dog fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Looks like Tennessee fans have moved on from Chris Petersen already https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/935149249846706176
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https://twitter.com/petethamel/status/934993190574227456 Well so much for that option. There's also this: quote:Rutgers: Head coach Chris Ash and Rutgers signed an updated five-year contract taking him through the 2022 season before their season finale against Michigan State over the weekend, per a report from NJ Advance Media. Ash’s salary terms remain unchanged and he will make $2.2 million in 2018. The report adds that Ash coached the first two seasons on a signed Memorandum of Agreement while NCAA sanctions were hovering over the program, so this represents his first official contract. Coaching on MOUs for a year or so isn't entirely unheard of but 2 whole years is a new one on me.
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The Tennessee disaster started right before I went go trail run yesterday. During the run idiot me couldn't stop checking twitter and this thread, so I ended up falling real bad around 3.5 miles. My left hand (which I caught myself with) can barely close (it hurts to type this). I will officially say yesterday was the most insane day. It even beats Kiffin leaving. Someone could write a book about the last 10 years at Tennessee (including Pearl and the Lady Vols), and most would consider it fiction. I don't think he ever was an option. Tennessee doesn't want to buy his ridiculous buyout after paying Jones. nate fisher fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Yeah odds are Campbell is staying at Iowa State for at least another year.
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SourKraut posted:12 hours later and I’m still pissed that ASU fired Todd Graham. gently caress Ray Anderson and Michael Crow. I don't think Graham should have been fired, but it makes sense for what they want from the program. His ceiling is about 10 wins, and he won't be consistent. The program is trending up though so do you fire him now or next year when they finish with 7-9 wins? If he isn't the guy you want and the buyout doesn't scare you then now is the best time to dump him.
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I'm assuming Tennessee has some sort of FOIA deal going, so it'd be interesting to make a FOIA request on any and all communications from the athletic department about Schiano after it is all said and done, just to see what sort of a shitshow this is internally
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What if Tennessee had kind of a collective coaching system where all the players took votes on what plays to run, with different seniors being in charge of various other administrative and recruiting aspects of the program from month to month, as elected by the players. Just grab someone from the history department to sign off on poo poo for legal purposes. I'm talking a real camp nowhere/accepted type situation.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Rice fired David Bailiff They were pretty bad this year, even for Rice. Their win total since 2014 went from 7 to 5 to 3 to 1.
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General Dog posted:They were pretty bad this year, even for Rice. Their win total since 2014 went from 7 to 5 to 3 to 1. It’s time for Todd Graham to Come Home
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KKKLIP ART posted:I'm assuming Tennessee has some sort of FOIA deal going, so it'd be interesting to make a FOIA request on any and all communications from the athletic department about Schiano after it is all said and done, just to see what sort of a shitshow this is internally I can sort of sympathize with them not seeing this coming. Schiano was a high profile assistant when the McQueary testimony was unsealed last year and it was seemingly met with shrug and quickly forgotten.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:What if Tennessee had kind of a collective coaching system where all the players took votes on what plays to run, with different seniors being in charge of various other administrative and recruiting aspects of the program from month to month, as elected by the players. Just grab someone from the history department to sign off on poo poo for legal purposes. I'm talking a real camp nowhere/accepted type situation. Guarantano sitting on the sideline with an Xbox running Madden. Just runs Ask Madden before every series
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Lol 1 day ago Tennessee tried to commit PR suicide and we all got to watch I think Tennessee (the fans at least) won the battle yesterday, but in end this battle will cost them the war. Joey Freshwater posted:Guarantano sitting on the sideline with an Xbox running Madden. Just runs Ask Madden before every series Check out his twitter likes. It wouldn't surprise me if he ends up transferring. He was a big Rutgers fan (his dad played for them).
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Henchman of Santa posted:Rice fired David Bailiff  I remember when they won CUSA
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DJExile posted:Yeah odds are Campbell is staying at Iowa State for at least another year. Not saying I think this will happen but it’ll really suck for him if they go back to being Iowa State next year nate fisher posted:The new rumor is Tennessee has reached out to Tee Martin and Jeff Brohm. Cutcliff has a good job, unless he’s really eager to retire I don’t know why he’d agree to this MourningView fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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MourningView posted:Cutcliff has a good job, unless he’s really eager to retire I don’t know why he’d agree to this just to do this. I feel like we've reached out to him in the past and he's turned it down (or maybe it was the other way around) but yeah I can't imagine it happening unless he sees himself retiring in the next couple years.
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nate fisher posted:The national media is bashing Tennessee fans, while local media is like fans did the right thing. The only person in the national media not bashing the fans is Andy Staples (who use to live in Knoxville). I'd at least like to believe that it's because you have to cover the allegations of covering up child sex abuse with stuff about 'double hearsay' and whatnot, or else you're the target of a libel lawsuit. It wouldn't be a surprise to me if they're afraid of opening themselves up to something like that by giving Tennessee fans a pass for protesting a hire based on relatively weak allegations. It's a lot easier to say "well Tenn fans hated this coach so they covered themselves by claiming this" or just ignoring the Sandusky allegations. I'd like to believe that. Unfortunately yeah they're probably all in the sports bubble and ignoring the fact that that poo poo is loving serious and toxic and needs to be kept under Yucca Mountain. E: That SI article is really good maxallen fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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The real question is who told Trumpist the propaganda minister Sarah Sanders to smear Schiano.
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MourningView posted:Not saying I think this will happen but it’ll really suck for him if they go back to being Iowa State next year Their schedule really doesn't look bad for next year, especially the 2nd half. It seemed like they did well this year in spite of a ton of injuries too, so I can't imagine they regress too hard.
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maxallen posted:gently caress Webb An opinion all Knoxville, especially private school Knoxville, goons can agree upon. Didn’t we reach out to Cutcliffe in 2012? Or did I make that up?
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nate fisher posted:The national media is bashing Tennessee fans, while local media is like fans did the right thing. The only person in the national media not bashing the fans is Andy Staples (who use to live in Knoxville). Andy Staples is hands down the best journalist left in college sports. He's the only one I've worked with that actually knows the business end of things and understands the nuances of the fanbases, and how those two factors have to be managed to be successful. Ergo, his takes on things are genuinely insightful. Meanwhile, literally every other national media person, save for Marty Smith at ESPN (he also gets it), tries to treat college like the NFL in terms of coaching hires and program character. Almost too much like a business instead of a reflection of the program itself, if that makes any sense. But this mess at Tennessee is without precedent. At the end of the day, hiring a coach needs to be as much about finding someone with a good plan for success, as much as a marketing ploy to find someone fans will actually support, leading to tickets, merchandise and licensing sales. The AD there properly hosed this up.
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zimbomonkey posted:This feels like a really underwhelming hire tbh. Florida didn't need a big splashy hire. At this point they need someone who can right the ship and give them an actual semblance of an offense for the first time in years. Mullen can give them that.
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mcmagic posted:The real question is who told Trumpist the propaganda minister Sarah Sanders to smear Schiano. Clearly a long con to free up Schiano for Arkansas.
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A lot of people (myself included) are still holding our breath for now, but general consensus is that unless he publicly commits to UCF in the next couple of days, Frost is coming to Lincoln. Probably stating the obvious here but ^  ^ If for some reason he has a change of heart, yeah, it sounds like Campbell would be at the top of the list.
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an adult beverage posted:Reports of Bucs OC Todd Monken to Mississippi State. Seems like a good hire for them. I can't remember if there were any circumstances RE: his departure from Hattiesburg. Whatever happened to Hagetaka, our resident Southern Miss goon
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zimbomonkey posted:This feels like a really underwhelming hire tbh. He was one of the first names everyone brought up when the job opened so I dunno how you never heard the possibility. And go look at what Mississippi St. was before he got there.
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Stephen A Smith is having an aneurysm on air talking about Schiano and Tennessee. It’s a similar narrative I’ve read other places of “y’all ruined a man of good character’s reputation with this debacle.” The pandering to coaches by national sports media really knows no bounds. It’s part of the business, I guess.
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zimbomonkey posted:This feels like a really underwhelming hire tbh. Pretty sure it's actually one of the most sensible hires of the last five years.
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zimbomonkey posted:This feels like a really underwhelming hire tbh. Nah. Most programs would kill for Mullen and they’ve been very productive with lesser talent. Dude can coach QBs too. I’d never guarantee anything, but this is the closest thing to guaranteed offensive production outside of Chip Kelly. And he’s loving young too. Potentially great long term hire. It isn’t splashy, but I’m jacked.
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