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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I still have no idea why Hextall took away most of Hakstol's lovely toys but gave him this one back. Lehtera is so bad yet coaches love him Was he brought in purely as a faceoff guy or something? I swear i remember that justification popping up with someone recently and it was weird as hell.
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I didn't understand why the Flyers did that trade then and I really don't get it now.
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bewbies posted:I didn't understand why the Flyers did that trade then and I really don't get it now. The flyers pay Jori less money over a shorter time than they would have Brayden Schenn. Losing Brayden sucked but I think Hextall was primarily focused on clearing cap space. E: I think Brayden did well with a change of scenery too. He was awesome on the PP but completely god awful at 5v5, to the point that it was a legitimate detriment to the team as a whole.
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DJExile posted:The flyers pay Jori less money over a shorter time than they would have Brayden Schenn. Losing Brayden sucked but I think Hextall was primarily focused on clearing cap space. Hextall likely only traded Schenn because of Nolan Patrick. I would agree on the change of scenery. I watched the Flyers last year, and a lot of Blues games this year, and Schenn looks like a different player. Yes he is playing with Tarasenko, yes he did have shittier line mates for a lot of last season, but Schenn spent time playing with Giroux and Vorachek and looked worse then than this year with the Blues. In general, its probably part of whatever curse is on the Flyers. Constant goalie controversy, players always play better after they leave for other teams, etc.
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Brayden Schenn is a shitbag and I'm glad he's out west.
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Duckman2008 posted:Hextall likely only traded Schenn because of Nolan Patrick. Didn't he move Schenn before they knew the draft order?
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Please tell us more about shitbags and your antipathy for them, Tom Wilson fan 
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DJExile posted:Didn't he move Schenn before they knew the draft order? No he was traded at the draft. It was a classic "shake things up" deal though and Patrick shouldn't have figured into that at all. At his peak he's probably a Brayden Schenn type, so it's not like Schenn would've blocked him. The Flyers got a decent return in the form of 2 1st rounders, so it was more a shift to a rebuild when they got a good futures offer for a guy who appeared at the time to have settled into that 50-60 point 2nd line centre role.
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DJExile posted:Didn't he move Schenn before they knew the draft order? Def after. https://www.nhl.com/news/flyers-deal-brayden-schenn-to-blues-for-jori-lehtera-picks/c-290097928
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Eric the Mauve posted:Please tell us more about shitbags and your antipathy for them, Tom Wilson fan Except I routinely call Wilson a shithead and say how much I hate him?
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Mind_Taker posted:Except I routinely call Wilson a shithead and say how much I hate him? Sorry, you're a caps fan, you have to like every player on your team and own their dirty behavior and claim it as acceptable
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i dont know what he's done in regular season games since but if i was a caps fan i'd probably hate schenn after that 2016 playoff series too, he ran around like an idiot the whole time and earned himself a 3 game suspension after the end of it also haven't the flyers as a whole been poo poo at 5v5 under hakstol? i got the impression last season at least that they relied waaaay too much on their power play to score
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Pornographic Memory posted:i dont know what he's done in regular season games since but if i was a caps fan i'd probably hate schenn after that 2016 playoff series too, he ran around like an idiot the whole time and earned himself a 3 game suspension after the end of it I think for a few years recently Giroux has almost exclusively been a power play specialist and poo poo at even strength. Don't know how much that is Hakstol and how much was Giroux's body falling apart.
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Pornographic Memory posted:
5v5 was a mess for a few reasons last year. Giroux wasn't healed from hip issues, the goaltending was a disaster which forced forwards to play super conservative in that low-to-high system to help out a mediocre-at-best defense, and some guys were just snake bit.
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Washington has Alex "Genocide is cool actually" Ovechkin so we don't need to focus on Wilson anyway.
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Mind_Taker posted:Except I routinely call Wilson a shithead and say how much I hate him? Doesn't matter, he plays for your team so if you support them you support shitbaggery  (I'm not salty at all about the Matt Cooke years, why would you imply such a ridiculous thing)
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i not only rooted for a team employing steve ott, i enjoyed the presence of steve ott on said team
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https://twitter.com/abc7/status/935063174566633477 Lmao, how loving tone deaf do you have to be to think this is a good idea right now?
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Aphrodite posted:Washington has Alex "Genocide is cool actually" Ovechkin so we don't need to focus on Wilson anyway. Probably more than half of NHLers supported/voted for Trump so I guess you have to hate all of these players for their lovely political views. Me? I enjoy watching Ovechkin sock dingers.
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bewbies posted:I didn't understand why the Flyers did that trade then and I really don't get it now. Hextall has been pretty savvy on trading and drafting after inheriting this mess and needing some years to clean it up. There wasn't really anything he could do to rush the defense along, but he made some savvy moves and has definitely strengthened the team's prospect pool for years to come. Even if Schenn is good now, I feel like those two firsts along with Nolan Patrick are going to be more important than having another good center on a team that has won 8 of 23 games this year.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Doesn't matter, he plays for your team so if you support them you support shitbaggery Because you have first-round pick Ryan Reaves in the lineup right now and Tom Sestito lurking?
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Mind_Taker posted:Probably more than half of NHLers supported/voted for Trump so I guess you have to hate all of these players for their lovely political views. Way ahead of you.
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Zodijackylite posted:Hextall has been pretty savvy on trading and drafting after inheriting this mess and needing some years to clean it up. There wasn't really anything he could do to rush the defense along, but he made some savvy moves and has definitely strengthened the team's prospect pool for years to come. Even if Schenn is good now, I feel like those two firsts along with Nolan Patrick are going to be more important than having another good center on a team that has won 8 of 23 games this year. It's this, yeah. For all the mess that the start of this season has been, Philadelphia is still very much ultimately playing the long game here.
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DJExile posted:It's this, yeah. For all the mess that the start of this season has been, Philadelphia is still very much ultimately playing the long game here. It's a good long game. The team still has some fan-favorite top players in Giroux, Voracek, and Simmonds to enjoy in the meantime, but every move has been savvy. There's no false start like Buffalo getting Eichel then making big acquisitions, when they lucked into Patrick they doubled down by getting two more first rounders. I'm impressed by Hextall's GMing in general.
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Yeah my complaints with Ron are pretty limited so far, I'd like to see the kids come up sooner but there's a bit of a logjam right now anyway, and if the biggest beef I have with the guy is that he's a little too patient, I can't really hate that in the big picture.
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DJExile posted:It's this, yeah. For all the mess that the start of this season has been, Philadelphia is still very much ultimately playing the long game here. What do they have in terms of forwards besides Nolan when looking at the long term? It strikes me that they may be in one of those awkward positions where when all their young talented D is matured enough, their current star forwards will be declining and so they'll get stuck in an inbetween spot instead of ready to make the jump to being a contender.
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Mind_Taker posted:Probably more than half of NHLers supported/voted for Trump so I guess you have to hate all of these players for their lovely political views.  imo
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Malkin out tonight? Probably saw Weise and Lehtera in for Weal and Leier and was like “I don’t even need to be in the lineup to get at least 3 pts off of these fuckers”
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Levitate posted:What do they have in terms of forwards besides Nolan when looking at the long term? It strikes me that they may be in one of those awkward positions where when all their young talented D is matured enough, their current star forwards will be declining and so they'll get stuck in an inbetween spot instead of ready to make the jump to being a contender. It's pretty good looking right now. The Phantoms have been doing really well lately and recent call-up Danick Martel was (maybe still is?) leading the AHL in scoring. Odds are Wayne Simmonds will be allowed to walk after next season and you'll see more of the youth forwards come up.
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Shawn Cotureier posted:Malkin out tonight? Malkin has missed a few in a row now with some upper body injury. So you get to face the power of Riley "second line center" Sheahan.
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Ginette Reno posted:Malkin has missed a few in a row now with some upper body injury. So you get to face the power of Riley "second line center" Sheahan. Thought Jake and Bake was rocking 2C duties? or Sheahan 2c and jack 3c? Whatever gently caress it. Trade RNH to Pitt Oilers for some duct tape
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Aphrodite posted:Washington has Alex "Genocide is cool actually" Ovechkin so we don't need to focus on Wilson anyway. Have you ever considered that he may actually be Alex “my family and friends will be murdered by the KGB unless I publicly endorse Putin” Ovechkin? Check out Icarus on Netflix. Russia is hosed up and terrifying. Anyway, Tom Wilson is cool.
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https://twitter.com/SWhyno/status/935265627257831425?s=17 also landeskog got 4 games
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Technically Jagr was out of the league for three years tho
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Howe was out for a while too. But it doesn't say continuous.
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I feel like you could trace it in other ways. Howe > Gretzky > Jumbo Joe Not sure if Gretzky and Joe would have played each other, though they were both active at the same time. e: Ray Bouque played to 2001, and his rookie year he would have played against Howe. So basically anyone who came in as a regular fairly young and is ~36 to start the season would potentially be a 5th in line. Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Aphrodite posted:Way ahead of you. You hate everyone though.
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