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Most people said it’s pretty mediocre and closer to Banjo-Tooie/DK64. It’ll certainly feel like a sack of poo poo compared to Mario now that that’s out.
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Uh... huh. I keep wanting to like this game since the original Xenoblade Chronicles was a breath of the freshest air, but I just can't get behind everything I see/hear about it. The pacing of all of that dialogue felt off, felt bored. Like nobody had their lines memorized so they were just reading off paper but they knew they already had the job and couldn't be fired. Which is particularly concerning because I've got a strong itch for a portable JRPG and Octopath isn't out yet. I hope the game is secretly super self-aware of its tropiness and they've just been playing it really straight for the promos. But hope may be too generous a word.
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Nov 27, 2017 21:14
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Lodin posted:I still think the game is missing a robot that shouts stuff like: Oy yah rotter! I swear on me mum, I'll 'ave your 'ead in and eat yah, yah mangy oval office! Yeah, Xord was pretty great
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Nov 27, 2017 21:18
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spit on my clit posted:i think the consensus was "it's more like banjo tooie instead of banjo and kazooie", but i dont recall playing either of them because that was so many years ago. Yeah, same here. I initially picked the Wii U version for my backer reward and then changed it to the Switch. I still want it, Playtonic. Gimme my colorful N-64 era platformer! Saying it's more like Banjo-Tooie than Kazooie isn't even a turnoff for me. Both those games were two of my favorites on that system. 
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Nov 27, 2017 21:33
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Ya I like banjo tooie probably more than kazooie
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Nov 27, 2017 21:35
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I didn't like the fact that practically every world in Tooie wasn't possible to 100% on your first visit iirc. It was definitely more common than in Kazooie, where you'd have to revisit either freezeezy or gobi for a single jiggy after getting the move from the other world
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Hammer Bro. posted:Uh... huh. It sounds like they hired decent VAs and then gave them literally 0 direction to work with. At least you always have the option to play with the Japanese VAs anyway.
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Waltzing Along posted:Didn't it already come out and was bad? Yooka-Laylee had problems that could've easily been fixed but felt like they were kept in there for nostalgia reasons to feel more like old school platformers. The thing is a lot of that stuff is just... archaic now and shoulda been updated. The big problem I had with the game was not having a mini-map and if I remember right didn't have a map at all. I found that really frustrating and in general found the "go find things to do with no direction" gameplay pretty unfun. Mario Odyssey in contract had a very "go out and do whatever you want" feel to it, but had a map, had hints if you wanted them, and had a clear direction for the main game. The music in Yooka-Laylee was good though. Also the powerup vendor girl was loving horrifying
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Nov 27, 2017 21:47
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protip: play jrpgs with japanese audio when possible
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Nov 27, 2017 21:47
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Kawabata posted:protip: play jrpgs with japanese audio when possible Nah
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Nov 27, 2017 21:48
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protip: always play/read/watch literally any entertainment product in the original language when possible
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Nov 27, 2017 21:49
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Kawabata posted:protip: always play/read/watch literally any entertainment product in the original language when possible No
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Nov 27, 2017 21:49
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Dragonball Z is objectively better in english 
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Nov 27, 2017 21:50
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Kawabata posted:protip: play jrpgs Andrast posted:Nah
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Nov 27, 2017 21:51
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British voice acting is integral to the Xenoblade experience and if it isn’t good then the game isn’t worth playing
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Nov 27, 2017 21:52
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Macaluso posted:Dragonball Z is objectively better in english Better than AIDS maybe maybe
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Nov 27, 2017 21:54
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Everyone who ever complains about voice acting or dubs is a knob. Just watch things in God's language, English
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we have a fan of dubbing and terrible localization guys Andrast posted:British voice acting is integral to the Xenoblade experience and if it isn’t good then the game isn’t worth playing it's not you're playing the second hand version of a story with an objectively worse voice acting and narration than the original; in the rare, best cases it's not strictly worse but only "different" than what the creative director intended; in a minuscule percentage of those rare cases you could get better voice acting but localization will still be subpar
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Nov 27, 2017 21:56
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Kawabata posted:we have a fan of dubbing and terrible localization guys Nah
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Nov 27, 2017 21:57
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I find it hard to appreciate good voice acting when the characters all sound like they are speaking gibberish to me.
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Nov 27, 2017 21:57
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Kawabata posted:we have a fan of dubbing and terrible localization guys Again: no
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Nov 27, 2017 21:57
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Motto posted:Nah compelling argument guys
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Kawabata posted:we have a fan of dubbing and terrible localization guys When you play mario do you only listen to the odyssey theme in its original japanese
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Nov 27, 2017 21:58
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CuddlyZombie posted:When you play mario do you only listen to the odyssey theme in its original japanese not playing it atm but if I could I would
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Nov 27, 2017 21:59
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Kawabata posted:compelling argument guys This thing has been argued to loving death and nobody wants to read it
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Nov 27, 2017 21:59
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Macaluso posted:Dragonball Z is objectively better in english nonsense, shrill dying grandma goku best goku
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Nov 27, 2017 21:59
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Macaluso posted:Dragonball Z is objectively better in spanish
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Kawabata posted:not playing it atm but if I could I would I can respect that
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Nov 27, 2017 22:00
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Kawabata posted:you're playing the second hand version of a story with an objectively worse voice acting and narration than the original; in the rare, best cases it's not strictly worse but only "different" than what the creative director intended; in a minuscule percentage of those rare cases you could get better voice acting but localization will still be subpar this sounds almost as bad as when people were making GBS threads their pants about a "TOTALLY SUBPAR TRANSLATION" for Persona 5 when it was loving fine. I'm sure Kafka's translations weren't completely what the author intended either but guess what, I actually would like to enjoy the loving Metamorphosis
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Nov 27, 2017 22:00
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I can think of at least one JRPG series where the original writers liked the localized version of the main character more than the original Japanese and rewrote her in the sequels to be more like the NA version
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Nov 27, 2017 22:02
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Kawabata posted:compelling argument guys Just stop We don't a poo poo about "bad" anime voiceovers, it's already cringey and dumb as hell, it's not gonna be any better in it's ""pure" (lmao) presentation
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Nov 27, 2017 22:03
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A lot of arguments in favour of Japanese VA and stilted overly-literal translations are about getting the "original, intended" experience, but those things won't actually give you that. Listening to a language you don't understand will never give you the same experience as someone who does. Reading stiff, stilted English will not give you the same experience as someone reading the fluent Japanese it was translated from. Localization exists to try and give you the most analogous and polished experience possible in your own language. You can have your preferences and sometimes localization is done poorly, but decrying the practice is dumb.
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Nov 27, 2017 22:04
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I mean honestly to me a bigger hurdle with games is just the story being bad rather than the dub. Like I could of played Fire Emblem Fates with the original Japanese audio and it wouldn't of improved much given the writing would still be ludicrous.
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DLC Inc posted:this sounds almost as bad as when people were making GBS threads their pants about a "TOTALLY SUBPAR TRANSLATION" for Persona 5 when it was loving fine. I'm sure Kafka's translations weren't completely what the author intended either but guess what, I actually would like to enjoy the loving Metamorphosis It was lacking compared to some of Atlus USA's other efforts. There were typos and bits of stilted wording throughout the game. However, it was overall still pretty understandable. It just wasn't the tire fire a lot of people were making it out to be.
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Nov 27, 2017 22:05
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The English might be terribly done but on some level I like to know what's going on when I'm playing games and I don't speak Japanese and gently caress reading subtitles so idk I guess I'll just keep the language set to English
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Nov 27, 2017 22:05
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gently caress the original authors intent. Localize that poo poo for me, a local. Original author can sit and spin.
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DLC Inc posted:this sounds almost as bad as when people were making GBS threads their pants about a "TOTALLY SUBPAR TRANSLATION" for Persona 5 when it was loving fine. I'm sure Kafka's translations weren't completely what the author intended either but guess what, I actually would like to enjoy the loving Metamorphosis P5's localization was genuinely oddly subpar for atlus (the yakuza game they helped with and utawarerumono are way better on that count), but P5's writing isn't particularly good to begin with so I can't call it a loss.
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DLC Inc posted:this sounds almost as bad as when people were making GBS threads their pants about a "TOTALLY SUBPAR TRANSLATION" for Persona 5 when it was loving fine. I'm sure Kafka's translations weren't completely what the author intended either but guess what, I actually would like to enjoy the loving Metamorphosis you can't always do that with books obviously but with movies/games you can with subtitles on some people hate subtitles and I get that but most anime things dubbed by american VAs sound like the entire cast is composed of 17 yo marines, to each his own I guess KingSlime posted:We don't a poo poo about "bad" anime voiceovers, it's already cringey and dumb as hell, it's not gonna be any better in it's ""pure" (lmao) presentation which is why listening to hundreds of "YEAH" and "COME ON" in the same episode/hour of gameplay makes the experience aggressively worse
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Nov 27, 2017 22:06
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the ~Authorial Intent~ was for the audience to actually, you know, understand the game. Localization is good.
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Watch cartoons/games in whatever language you want. Live action dubs are universally terrible.
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