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Pham Nuwen posted:The Williams Tube: draw out your bits as dots on a CRT, then to read the data, detect the difference in electric charge remaining on the front of the screen after a dot has been drawn (1) vs not drawn (0). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_tube I linked to this one in my boring post above, but I love some of the creative ideas they came up with back then. With the bonus that they were nice and chunky and you could see what was going on with the naked eye (especially in this case). Wish I'd kept that sheet of NCR core memory when I left a previous job. I also only switched away from Windows Phone last week, having been using it on various phones since 2011. I don't miss it as much as I thought I would. Still have the Surface RT though!
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Went to a Microsoft store and apparently their point of sale runs on Windows phone's... Lol they had to try a second phone.
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tater_salad posted:Went to a Microsoft store and apparently their point of sale runs on Windows phone's... Lol they had to try a second phone.
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Nov 22, 2017 12:09
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Me and my company still happily use and deploy Surfaces 
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Nov 22, 2017 12:16
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jojoinnit posted:Me and my company still happily use and deploy Surfaces We have ipads for our techs in the field. One rear end in a top hat caused soo many issues because every photo he took of manufacturer/mod/serial plates was blurry as gently caress. He never wears his prescription glasses and can't tell what we get, if only his drunk brain could just process the idea of 'touch to focus' and letting it go. Nope, he send a stream of randomly blurry photos and MAYBE we can use a combination of them to get the info required. The dickhead was on the wrong street today looking for the second biggest and well known building in the city and couldn't find it.
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Surface != Windows phone.. it wasn't a tablet it was a phone.
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The Fool posted:It's a thing that went away in Windows when 8 came out. MacOS and Linux still support it. It just shows a log of every little thing getting loaded while your computer is booting up, occasionally useful for troubleshooting. Booting in verbose mode is absolutely still in Windows 10, I've seen it in action in more than a few enterprise settings.
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Aubergine Mage posted:I'd give anything for a new Falcon game. Keep an eye on Combat Air Patrol 2. It's supposed to be a pretty good survey sim for the Harrier. I haven't bought it yet because I don't buy early access games (anymore), but from what I've seen it looks decent enough and has a dynamic campaign.
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jojoinnit posted:Me and my company still happily use and deploy Surfaces I had a Surface Pro 3 for work and it sucked hard. The graphics driver crashed frequently from the first day I owned it. It only had one USB port (  ) and no Ethernet port, so I had to carry around a dongle; when work implemented smart-card authentication, I then had to get a different Ethernet dongle which had a USB port on it, so I could plug in my card reader on an increasingly ridiculous daisy-chain.By the time I finally got rid of it, it was about 2 years old. The UI would break within minutes of logging on; I'd have a short window to get Outlook and a file browser and whatever Office program I needed launched, because pretty quick the Start menu wouldn't open any more. Then I'd just have to work fast before it stopped switching between windows. I sent it off labeled hosed, DO NOT RE-ASSIGN so no other poor bastard would get stuck with it. I considered driving a stake through its heart to be sure.
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I have a Surface Pro 4 for work and I like it. It had some roughness with drivers for the first few months, but it's all been fixed now. They are kind of pricey, but the hardware is really good. I do wish that Windows 10 tablet mode was a little more polished.
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Oh yeah, about 50% of the time when I turned it on, it would get to the Bitlocker password screen and decide I didn't have the keyboard connected. No amount of disconnecting and reconnecting the keyboard would convince it, the only solution was to turn it off and try again. The keyboard thing was janky poo poo too, after a month or so the trackpad started getting stuck down on one corner so you couldn't click any more.
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Das Butterbrot posted:Keep an eye on Combat Air Patrol 2. It's supposed to be a pretty good survey sim for the Harrier. I haven't bought it yet because I don't buy early access games (anymore), but from what I've seen it looks decent enough and has a dynamic campaign. This is the exact opposite of what's been said in the combat flight sim thread. Last I was told was that it's very arcadey and has static missions, not a dynamic campaign. Do you have a link to any publicized updates about it that talk about a dynamic campaign and switch flipping cockpits? If you do I'd like to share it with the sim thread. Edit: Harriers are flyable in BMS Falcon now as well. Carth Dookie has a new favorite as of 22:12 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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Lowen SoDium posted:I have a Surface Pro 4 for work and I like it. It had some roughness with drivers for the first few months, but it's all been fixed now. They are kind of pricey, but the hardware is really good. I do wish that Windows 10 tablet mode was a little more polished. Last year my girlfriend got a Surface Book, the really high-end one. She loved it until last month when the keyboard abruptly quit working. (And of course it was JUST out of warranty). It's easy enough to just plug in an external keyboard, but that kind of mars the ultra-portable aspect of it. Usually my instinct would be to take the thing apart and check the connectors, or if that doesn't work, replace the keyboard module itself. But apparently Surface Books can only be worked on by elves with magic fingers, and it's nearly impossible for a mere mortal to have much chance of even reassembling it into a functional machine. User serviceability should not be a tech relic, drat it! 
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The Wurst Poster posted:For reals? I live in eastern Washington and can pick it up myself. What do you want for it? PM'd you.
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Powered Descent posted:Last year my girlfriend got a Surface Book, the really high-end one. She loved it until last month when the keyboard abruptly quit working. I decided not to get a Surface Book when the Best Buy guy was demonstrating the removable top half, and the mechanism jammed when he attempted to release it. Got a Surface Pro 4 instead. Aside from the aforementioned bugs out of the gate, it's a solid machine.
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Powered Descent posted:Last year my girlfriend got a Surface Book, the really high-end one. She loved it until last month when the keyboard abruptly quit working. (And of course it was JUST out of warranty). It's easy enough to just plug in an external keyboard, but that kind of mars the ultra-portable aspect of it. Depending on how she paid for it, a lot of credit cards offer an extended warranty 1-2 years beyond the manufacturers warranty. Worth looking into.
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Also chiming in with Surface Pro 4 love. 3 was a bit shaky but the 4 seems solid. We've also had issues with the Surface book though.
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I'm a happy chappie today. Scored an older HP N40L Microserver for $AUD 190 shipped and it has 4x 2TB drives in it! I've only ever seen them at 300-400 unpopulated. It's worth the price alone for the drives. It's now a bit of a relic and may struggle as a PLEX server when it comes to transcoding but just serving native resolution media and a SAMBA share of all my PS2/PS3 games to load over network means I'm finally going Discless for a lot of my stuff. The seller was kind enough to keep one drive full to the brim with movies and tv shows! Do I dare be evil and see what was deleted off the other 3 drives?
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Yes, then post a list of their embarrassing porn and boring documents. Desktop\Copy of Copy of Copy of cv_v2 (1).doc
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Humphreys posted:
No, you dont want to open that pandoras box, especially if you found something illegal.
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Nov 27, 2017 18:39
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Sometimes not knowing is better. There are things out there you can't unsee. Do it.
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Chairman Mao posted:Sometimes not knowing is better. There's only one way to be safe. Fill them with zeros Fill them with ones Fill them with lead
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Kea posted:No, you dont want to open that pandoras box, especially if you found something illegal. Remember what was at the bottom of pandora's box. Recover that drive. Find the trump pee tape or whatever.
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Remember how there used to be programs that would "shred" your files by overwriting them 7 times or whatever? I don't think it's possible to recover a file that was overwritten once, even today, without million-dollar equipment. (Right?)
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Winty posted:Remember how there used to be programs that would "shred" your files by overwriting them 7 times or whatever? If the drives were encrypted prior to formatting, no dice. Even with as many million dollar computers as you can afford. If the drives weren't encrypted prior to formatting, it'd still be possible to scrape something out of there.
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Nov 28, 2017 00:42
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At a former job we used to do the 21-pass nuclear option on laptops when employees left On encrypted ssd's
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Last Chance posted:If the drives weren't encrypted prior to formatting, it'd still be possible to scrape something out of there. Maybe. No one has ever done it publicly.
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This is the most recent and thorough paper that I'm aware of on the subject. TL;DR - 1 wipe is enough to make data unrecoverable, 3 wipes is enough if you're really paranoid. https://www.vidarholen.net/~vidar/overwriting_hard_drive_data.pdf quote:4 Conclusion
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Winty posted:Remember how there used to be programs that would "shred" your files by overwriting them 7 times or whatever? Not even with million-dollar equipment.
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I wasn't really being serious about the recovery of the drives. I have enough work to do after accidentally quick formatting my current media drive instead of an SD card while drunk. I not only formatted but got to the end of a bare bones raspberry pi image write on it. I'm pretty much screwed as far as getting everything back, but I am having some success...slowly.
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What the original paper actually meant: "Given the low data density of current (early 90s) drives, it might theoretically be possible to recover data but only by reading every single bit manually using an electron microscope." (turns out this theory was wrong btw as mentioned above by The Fool) What idiots think it means: "ZOMG IF YOU DON'T OVERWRITE THE DATA 87363 TIMES THEN SOMEONE CAN JUST RUN A PROGRAM AND GET ALL THE DATA BACK!  "My old boss tried to make us use that bullshit 35-pass wipe on everything, and wouldn't be convinced it was pointless. Then he tried to wipe a drive and when it still hadn't finished 36 hours later he dropped the subject. Sweevo has a new favorite as of 11:51 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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If it were possible, at least one data recovery firm would offer the service for a cloudload of cash.
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Sweevo posted:My old boss tried to make us use that bullshit 35-pass wipe on everything, and wouldn't be convinced it was pointless. Then he tried to wipe a drive and when it still hadn't finished 36 hours later he dropped the subject. What I find even more hilarious was that you never needed to do the 35 pass wipe, even if you thought recovery were theoretically possible, as some of those passes were for disk technology that was already obsolete when the paper was published. Interestingly, the original author has published some epilogues to his paper: https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html
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The belief that it is possible lets data recovery companies charge a cloud load of cash for just analyzing drives though.
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You can buy retired pc hardware super cheaply form my company but first they insisted on wiping the drive by a third party, understandably, and now thye remove them altogether. If the drive isn't removable (like in a Surface Pro), you're out of luck.
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I imagine that if you could find an old cart eraser from a radio station, that would destroy anything on a drive real well. It's just a big electromagnet that sweeps back and forth, that fucker would interfere with the monitor on our AP wire
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mobby_6kl posted:You can buy retired pc hardware super cheaply form my company but first they insisted on wiping the drive by a third party, understandably, and now thye remove them altogether. If the drive isn't removable (like in a Surface Pro), you're out of luck. The place I was working previously requires anything with memory to be destroyed. Not just the memory, anything with memory. Storage is not an issue. It's a public college.
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There are people out there claiming that bits in a harddrive can be something other than 0 or 1. Apparently there is a state between the 0 and the 1 that can contain information about what bit was there up to 35 generations ago. If this were true, the consequence would be that you wouldn't have a 1 terabyte harddrive. you could use these between states to read and write data, and have a 35 terabyte harddrive. Once a bit is written over, it's written over. It's either 1 or 0, there is no memory of what was there before.
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evobatman posted:There are people out there claiming that bits in a harddrive can be something other than 0 or 1. Apparently there is a state between the 0 and the 1 that can contain information about what bit was there up to 35 generations ago. So what you’re saying is that I need to run the hard drive wiper backwards 35 times to get the original 1 or 0 back?
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One issue is bad sectors. Something written there and abandoned could probably be recovered. Depending on what it is.
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