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ArmyOfMidgets posted:finally unlocked darker side, got to the lava forks before calling it for now. Jesus. Next time im just keeping the lizard Lava forks is probably straight up the easiest part though? Just use the joyconstick instead of motion controls
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Nov 26, 2017 20:54
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I just got greedy and tried to do the golden rings on the first try, misjudged when to do the capture and just fell into the lava to die. I'd go for it, but the next few tries I just kinda kept jacking to glide over the segment since I got a good pace anyway. Wanted to do the ledge thing to avoid fighting the colorful critters things but one hit me just before i hung and bumped me off. So that's another break for me.
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Nov 26, 2017 22:36
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Wanted to do the ledge thing to avoid fighting the colorful critters things but one hit me just before i hung and bumped me off. So that's another break for me. i tried the ledge-hang gimmick as well and it never ended well for me. i found the easiest thing to do was just hit the bugs with ya hat, avoid touching the big Bumper Rings entirely. there's never too many that you won't have anywhere to stand, and if you start clearing them out before the first wave hits the platform, you'll have heaps of room to get busy knocking the next wave down. just make sure you don't hit that drat ring.
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Nov 26, 2017 22:41
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alf_pogs posted:i tried the ledge-hang gimmick as well and it never ended well for me. i found the easiest thing to do was just hit the bugs with ya hat, avoid touching the big Bumper Rings entirely. there's never too many that you won't have anywhere to stand, and if you start clearing them out before the first wave hits the platform, you'll have heaps of room to get busy knocking the next wave down. just make sure you don't hit that drat ring. Alright, i'll try that. That ring is freaking intimidating and I just could feel the chain reaction if I tried to throw my hat lol.
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Nov 26, 2017 22:42
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Woah what the poo poo what costume is this
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Nov 26, 2017 23:14
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Caveman
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Nov 26, 2017 23:18
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Oh just looks different when it's tiny. Thanks.
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Nov 26, 2017 23:40
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I got all the Moons expect Volleyball 100. All Souvenirs, Captures and Songs. All purple coin Costumes Dark side and Darker side. Took me ~40 hours Game is good, gonna get that final moon tomorrow and enjoy the joy of it to the fullest. Best Mario game I've played. Wooded Kingdom Theme for best soundtrack 2017
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Nov 27, 2017 01:22
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Taikuri posted:Wooded Kingdom Theme for best soundtrack 2017 It really, really is. I keep thinking I’ll get tired of it but never do.
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Nov 27, 2017 02:45
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had some friends over and somehow they decided the best use of the remainder of the evening was seeing how fast I could speedrun odyssey with no practice got 2:15, this is an insanely speedrun-friendly game
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Nov 27, 2017 06:37
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Between this and BotW I'm pretty sure Nintendo's attitude to speedrunners is 'godspeed, you loving lunatics'.
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Nov 27, 2017 09:15
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I wish streaming and speedrunning had been more prevalent when I was younger. I find watching people speedrun to be boring as hell, but actually doing that stuff myself is fascinating. I've just not got the time any more to actually dedicate myself to it.
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Nov 27, 2017 14:42
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I wish streaming and speedrunning had been more prevalent when I was younger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYmqJl4MoNI Speedrunning is cool, it takes a crazy amount of motor control and reaction time and it makes old games interesting again.
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Nov 27, 2017 17:34
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Capri Sun Tzu posted:You gotta find one with good narration! How best to explain my feelings? I don't like speedrunning as it currently is. You're contingent on having good commentary for a speedrun to be worth watching most of the time. The innate fun of the activity itself is tangential to that. Why do I find that to be the case? Because 99% of the time, you're watching a person effectively just do drills in their room. Every so often a run might get on pace for a WR, but mostly that's not the case. It would be like if someone made me watch a professional swimmer do 200m sprint trials on their own in a pool. I was a So why do I find watching swimming at the Olympics interesting? Well, it's obviously because 8-12 people are doing it at the same time and competing against each other to see who wins, which is exciting. So perhaps unsurprisingly, I find speedrun races to be the most interesting variation of speedrunning. But I also don't think they're all that entertaining. The reasons being that most of the games that get raced are ones which have effectively been "completed," so everyone is just running the same set of strats and it's whoever gets the best RNG or doesn't gently caress up that wins. As WRs are tied not to race performance, but to whatever you do in your room at 1 in the morning, you have no reason to hide pocket strats you've discovered. In an ideal world (for me) WR speedruns would only be counted during races. People would have reason to hold back pocket strats they'd discovered until raceday to try to win and that would breed a lot more excitement, at least for me. Perhaps unsurprisingly the things I've enjoyed most recently are the Mario Maker races I've seen going around. They're genuinely really exciting to watch.
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Capri Sun Tzu posted:
It is the year 20XX No games have been made since the NES I just beat KARNOV in 09:15:42 I don't care that other people like it. It's cool that people like different stuff. I watch GDQ occasionally.
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Nov 27, 2017 17:59
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I like watching races from GDQ events sometimes.
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See I find the races the least interesting speedrun uh... thing. One of my most favorite speedruns was the AGDQ of Tropical Freeze a few years ago. They had commentary for almost every level, it was fascinating. The races on the other hand just feel so boring to me. I'm much more interested in seeing how people go about getting through a particular area of a level fast than actually necessarily seeing it itself if that makes sense edit: Although I'm watching a video of Trihex speedrun Odyssey right now and it's like a work of art (until he bonks his head after a bunch of really smooth jumps and dives  )
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Nov 27, 2017 18:14
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Yorkshire Tea posted:How best to explain my feelings? There's a link to the past randomizer race that's fairly interesting. Because it's randomized each time, you get to see interesting strategies where items are missing or items that wouldn't ordinarily exist at a certain point in the game exist. It's a bit luck reliant, but kinda entertaining as a background thing.
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Nov 27, 2017 18:55
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That's why the only speedruns I like watching are AGDQ ones, they know they're probably not going for a WR or whatever and are just happy to talk about what's going on, or if not someone there is.
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Nov 27, 2017 19:06
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I love Link to the Past randomizer, but even I play it more to be a completionist rather than a speedrunner. I get the fascination with it, though.
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Nov 27, 2017 20:22
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My favorite part of speedruns is when there's something that the player basically has to sit around and wait to be finished, so they fill the time with completely unnecessary showboating. I also like them better when they're of games which still resemble normal play when speedrun. However, these are probably the games that are the least interesting to speedrunners.
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Bongo Bill posted:My favorite part of speedruns is when there's something that the player basically has to sit around and wait to be finished, so they fill the time with completely unnecessary showboating. I also like them better when they're of games which still resemble normal play when speedrun. However, these are probably the games that are the least interesting to speedrunners. I think a lot of the time they’re not trying to showboat but trying to keep their momentum or whatever is a better word for it going. Like how people will run in place at crosswalks
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Nov 28, 2017 06:14
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okay my critiques of the game are as follows: - The themes of the game are a bit of a mishmash (hats, weddings, globe trotting) - The outfits don't really have much purpose - They go for weird, and when they go weird they get weird. But there's not enough of it. There needed to be about as twice of instances of metro kingdom, the t-rex, the forgotten kingdom. - Platforming challenges still needed more.
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Nov 28, 2017 06:39
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Dork457 posted:- The outfits don't really have much purpose Uh you wear the outfits 
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Nov 28, 2017 06:59
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I don't think it's really fair to criticize the outfits for lacking purpose when demonic hat possession essentially serves the same purpose that outfits usually do in Mario games, and there's like 20x more of them. I mostly agree with the other stuff though.
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Nov 28, 2017 07:09
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The only real criticisms of the game are 1) You can't play as Bowser for the whole game 2) That's it
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Nov 28, 2017 07:15
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You change your outfits so Mario won't get too hot or too cold.
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Nov 28, 2017 09:23
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The outfits let you into particular doors in each Kingdom.  e: also they let you look fancy
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veni veni veni posted:Oh ok I see. I was imagining the more traditional definition of a double jump i.e jumping at the peak of a jump for extra air. If you play two player, the other player can double jump you in the traditional way when you're already in the air. It's really handy! I've still got three things that show as ? in the possession menu. One of them is after the meat from Luncheon Kingdom. Anyone know what it might be? It seems strange to have done everything but still be missing a few.
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I gave in and used the talkatoo glitch to get 100 jumpropes. Then I cheesed the volleyball with co-op mode Cappy. I'm missing one Star from toadette but I'm otherwise completely done with planet earth. Back to the moon with me.
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Macaluso posted:The only real criticisms of the game are I got so excited at the end when you got to be bowser and break through all those rocks, cause they kind of looked like the ones in each level (that give you more moons post game), and I figured you'd get to play as him again. Very disappointed.
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mastajake posted:I got so excited at the end when you got to be bowser and break through all those rocks, cause they kind of looked like the ones in each level (that give you more moons post game), and I figured you'd get to play as him again. Very disappointed. There should have been various sections in the postgame that lets you control Bowser to smash poo poo up smartly to get moons. I'd have loved such segments. Also, Bowser under our control is not only strong, but fast and acrobatic and actually very responsive in my opinion, which is cool and good.
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Folt The Bolt posted:There should have been various sections in the postgame that lets you control Bowser to smash poo poo up smartly to get moons. I'd have loved such segments. He feels a lot better to control than Yoshi which is funny to me
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Nov 28, 2017 14:45
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The fun part about Bowser is that he's a cartoon supervillain but also a legitimately loving badass monster who's fun to fight and fun to play. Giant horned spiky dragon turtle who can be a comedic cartoon villain, a hilarious manchild, a bumbling dad, a monstrous warrior king and somehow all at the same time.
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Nov 28, 2017 15:08
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Taear posted:
Have you possessed the piranha plants? I didn't discover that this was possible until everything else was pretty much done.
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Inescapable Duck posted:The fun part about Bowser is that he's a cartoon supervillain but also a legitimately loving badass monster who's fun to fight and fun to play. Giant horned spiky dragon turtle who can be a comedic cartoon villain, a hilarious manchild, a bumbling dad, a monstrous warrior king and somehow all at the same time. Well, going by "Mario cast are actors" thing, Bowser, like most Mario characters, is pretty flexible in what Nintendo can cast him as (and, generally, this flexibility in what the cast can be is why we get so many Mario spin-offs that go into wildly different genres). The role of the villain is what comes most naturally to him due to his conception but it's not the only thing he can play. Compare and contrast with the other iconic Nintendo villain Ganondorf for instance, whose roundedness and character development means he only really works as the ruthless badass operator behind the scenes who manipulates everything and everyone (... or an omnipotent force of nature depending on whether they make him closer to the human he was or the monster he became) and thus, while important, doesn't appear all the time.
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my favorite part with bowser is when you triple jump and he pumps his arm in the air triumphantly
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Neddy Seagoon posted:They're also the same controls used for the past twenty years in every 3D mario game since Super Mario 64. The only change is the cap-throw extra jump. TBF the dive isn't in every 3D mario, and it's a different button combination. Taear posted:I don't remember dive or triple jump in Galaxy? That's the only other 3D mario I've played. Triple jump is in Galaxy (and every other 3D mario). Dive is not. Calaveron posted:And I hope there’s a big thing spelling out THANK YOU like all final Mario levels since Super Mario World  The first one was technically SMB2j, although that's an アリガトYorkshire Tea posted:I wish streaming and speedrunning had been more prevalent when I was younger. I don't watch speedrunning normally, but seeing these crazy people utterly and mercilessly break games for a solid week in the GDQs has become something I look forward to every winter and summer. I can't wait to see what they do with Odyssey and BOTW. Macaluso posted:See I find the races the least interesting speedrun uh... thing. I like speedrun races if they're less than an hour. I'm utterly bored of Super Metroid races, but I understand that it's a big moneymaker for GDQ because of TEH AMINALS. raditts fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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