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Drunk Theory posted:How are they two different things you loving moron. X acres of sectioned off space land cost 100$. Or instead, they sell you a beacon that is good to claim X acres of space land for 100$ (and it probably only works in certain areas) There is none, but in his head canon the latter is something he can be ok with and still keep funding the dream.
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Drunk Theory posted:How are they two different things you loving moron. X acres of sectioned off space land cost 100$. Or instead, they sell you a beacon that is good to claim X acres of space land for 100$ (and it probably only works in certain areas) None. It's $100 into CIG's bank account. The various words used prior to that transaction are irrelevant.
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Toops posted:I just can't loving believe it. The mass, pressure, and ratio of ARGON. Cross-sectional area. How about you guys mock up mining, throw out of few asteroids, and try building a game? How about you guys, oh I don't know, add some code so that two people can shoot at each other in a space ship? Let's see what should our devs work on next? How about ANY aspect of persistence? Jesus loving christ, it's so transparent how stupid Chris Roberts, and his whole leadership team is. There is a 0% chance that they finish this "game." It's already way, way past the point of "irreducible number of errors" because it's needlessly complex in areas that do NOTHING, and completely void in areas that constitute "game" and "play." Yeah, this is about what happened in my mind when I realized what they were doing with argon. Not just partial pressure of argon, but the total mass of argon contained in a room. That's the sort of direction that can only come from the top.
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Golli posted:Argon is reserved for land-owning Nobles.
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Toops posted:There's no way they're actually selling land plots. There's just no way. I'm already peak citizen I can't handle this level of scam. Lol this is the least scammiest thing they’ve done. They’re just promising to sell you ownership of a piece of a virtual moon or whatever, they’re not promising that you can actually do anything with it. This one is just 100% dream wish fulfillment. Anyone that buys into this deserves exactly what they get.
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quote:While many people are excited to do all sorts of combat, piracy and high action jobs when the game finally goes live I'm looking forward to finding a nice spot on a beautiful green planet and setting up a farming outpost. However it will be pretty lonely all by myself. I'm hoping we will be able to allow other players to build outposts on our land so that we can create little villages. As our farming community grows we will require more services. We will establish regular transport routes to take our crops offworld and fuel deliveries to keep our operations going. Brand new accounts coming out to begin pumping the landgrab dreams
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Chunjee posted:I don't rembember this but the filename does not lie. Poor things, they sure have breathing problems and those eyeballs most likely won't stay inside their sockets much longer.  Just like pugs.
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Sarsapariller posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7g4gjf/im_starting_a_farming_colony_whos_in/?st=jajxo4ii&sh=b60f001c I'm the space Bürgermeister of this space village. I am generous and allow other space peasants to get into some space sharecropping in my territory. They all love me.
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Drunk Theory posted:I'm the space Bürgermeister of this space village. I am generous and allow other space peasants to get into some space sharecropping in my territory. They all love me. In order to incorporate your space municipality you're going to need at least 75 signatures and a space application. In some space states a space charter has to be granted by vote of the space state legislature, so be sure you're up to date on your space law.
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I feel like this is relevant to Star Citizen: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/why-do-nigerian-scammers-say-they-are-from-nigeria/ Basically, the gist of it is that a scammer's pitch is filled with all kinds of red flags and comically bad information that it will hook only the most gullible people on the planet, thereby saving time and money. If they hook someone with a reasonable sounding pitch, but then go off the rails enough that most people will question it, they've wasted time on that mark. If the scammer hooks someone with a ridiculous pitch, chances are, the mark isn't going to question it further when the scammer starts asking for bank account numbers and such.
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Sarsapariller posted:In order to incorporate your space municipality you're going to need at least 75 signatures and a space application. In some space states a space charter has to be granted by vote of the space state legislature, so be sure you're up to date on your space law. gently caress, that's more work than I wanted to put in. Can't I just pay you like 1000 dollars to get a government slider I can set to authoritarian dictatorship?
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Drunk Theory posted:I'm the space Bürgermeister of this space village. I am generous and allow other space peasants to get into some space sharecropping in my territory. They all love me. I'm going to be a baron and have an army of clippers to protect me and my crop of poppies. I'll spend my time conspiring against the other barons to take away their land.
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Toops posted:There's no way they're actually selling land plots. There's just no way. I'm already peak citizen I can't handle this level of scam. Land_Claim_Beacon_Estate.jpg This space divining rod better include a Rheinland-class battleship shield, a keurig machine, and a planetary defense cannon. Because it will be hailing Auroras and other space Kaitens packed with crates of highly-unstable argon upon the dune cattle that graze beneath its veil.
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I'm gonna be President/Treasurer of the HOA. Gotta keep those property values high.
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Hi thread! I was planning recently to write a big effortpost about how Citizens see the world. What their version of G0RF's chart would look like - the high priests at the top, the masses of citizens, the cliques and then across the gulf to goons and refunders and the Anti-Crobbler himself. But it grew a bit big, so I'm breaking a piece off and tossing it to the thread for discussion even if my timing could have been better and the land plots have arrived, holy poo poo. But I'd like to talk for a moment about something I said in an earlier post. That when Chris sold a big ship, he sold an unstated promise to fill it with players. Players who have to have a reason to want to be an Idris turret gunner rather than buy a ship of their own. Players, in short, who don't actually get to play Star Citizen... THE FAITHLESS In other words, the mainstream mass of gamers. People who presumably have only dimly heard of the project until launch day. The people who will flock to the game on the glorious Day of Release, when the clouds open and Chris Roberts descends from Heaven to grant Idrises to the faithful and cast Smart and his Goons into Hell where they shall wail and gnash their teeth as they are never permitted to fly e'en the smallest of Auroras. A good Citizen is naturally an elitist. He would prefer to disdain the masses as fools, people who turned aside the CRoberts when he preached his message and whose tastes are nowhere near refined enough for the Best drat Space Sim Ever. However, they are caught by a tenet of Star Citizen theology - Star Citizen will be the best game ever and sell millions and millions of copies. The space stations must be bustling and full of players. Someone must buy your mined space rocks. Someone must gape in awe at your 890 Jump, sometimes even try to attack you (and fail, and be sent to Pirate Jail to think about what they've done). So the Faithless who buy after release get to be in Outer Heaven (a concept you sometimes see in real no-questions-asked cults). In the ‘verse, but firmly second class. They can man the turrets. Scrub the hot tubs. Be the redshirts and helm officers and people who report “Vanduul on the scope, Captain!” while the Faithful command from the bridge. There will be entire skillsets (like shield balancing or power management) that the Citizens never touch. But by heck they'll toss peons out the airlock (and out of their orgs) if they don't give their captain full shields when he calls for it in the heat of battle. It'd be like being the healer in a WoW raid if your tank was also paying your salary. Perhaps, with much grinding and proof of their faith, the Faithless might aspire to own a ship one day (but it had better be after many months of tub-scrubbing). In which case they can be cannon fodder, escort fighters, perhaps pirates and targets for bounty hunters. The people who man all the dozens of planes lined up on the deck of the Citizen's pocket carrier. The people who foolishly charge the Citizens' guns and die so the Citizens can call themselves space aces. It’s the Faithless who the insurance mechanics are for. A good Citizen has multiple ships and just flies off in another one. But someone with one ship they had to save for years to afford? Get scrubbing that jaccuzi. This is the dark secret of LTI; LTI on a ship means you never run the risk of being reduced down to Faithless level by a run of deaths. It helps that a Citizen's natural contempt for the masses means he expects the Faithless to log in and immediately become pirates and griefers, because they're such dumb CODdies. They’ll run everywhere in the spaceports and ruin our immersion (so punish them. Ideally by forcing them to spend longer manning our turrets; some nice heavy fines would do it). They don’t understand the game like a Citizen does. Really, it’s what’s best for them and they’ll see that. Come the day. A good citizen rebels when CIG suggest new players who haven't proven their faith, haven't sacrificed, haven't paid and faced the real-world consequences of paying (a citizen's going to have felt the impact on his wallet of all those ships, after all) might be able to own big ships in less than 100,000 hours. Surely Chris wouldn’t do that. We need people to stuff into crates and introduce to the inevitable consequences of piracy and it sure as hell ain’t gonna be the Citizens, they paid too much to put up with that. Their whole identity is built on being the big people in the ‘verse. On being whales. This basically means the average Citizen sees themselves as a kind of MMO slumlord, keeping a horde of Faithless latecomers in poverty to keep their guns manned. It doesn’t occur to a Citizen for a moment that the Faithless might work this out and refuse to buy in. An unspoken tenet of the Cult of Star Citizen is the masses will kneel in awe when the glory of the full game is revealed to them. Kneel and beg for forgiveness, and in their mercy the Citizens will let them load cargo with their bare hands. People who ask awkward questions about how, exactly, this is going to work get an incredible dose of rage. You're threatening a core tenet of the Star Citizen fantasy. Seen Space Jam? You know that vision of the future the villain gives Michael Jordan of being chained to a basketball hoop, terrifying children in cinemas across the globe? That's where the faithless, the filthy faithless gamer on the street who didn't buy in when he had a chance, sits in Star Citizen theology. Enjoy your hot tub.
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X-Ultron posted:I feel like this is relevant to Star Citizen: Yes that's standard procedure in a con job. There's six steps to a good con and Star Citizen cycles through them about once a year. Foundation Work Preparations are made in advance of the game, including the hiring of any assistants required. Approach The victim is contacted. Build-up Grey market trades and ship beauty shots here The victim is given an opportunity to profit from a scheme. The victim's greed is encouraged, such that their rational judgment of the situation might be impaired. Pay-off or Convincer 3.0 launch here The victim receives a small payout as a demonstration of the scheme's effectiveness. This may be a real amount of money, or faked in some way. In a gambling con, the victim is allowed to win several small bets. In a stock market con, the victim is given fake dividends. The Hurrah You are currently here, with the anniversary sale. Limited time only! A sudden crisis or change of events forces the victim to act immediately. This is the point at which the con succeeds or fails. The In-and-In A conspirator (in on the con, but assumes the role of an interested bystander) puts an amount of money into the same scheme as the victim, to add an appearance of legitimacy to the scheme. This can reassure the victim, and give the con man greater control when the deal has been completed. "Confidence tricks exploit typical human characteristics such as greed, dishonesty, vanity, opportunism, lust, compassion, credulity, irresponsibility, desperation, and naïvety. As such, there is no consistent profile of a confidence trick victim; the common factor is simply that the victim relies on the good faith of the con artist. Victims of investment scams tend to show an incautious level of greed and gullibility, and many con artists target the elderly, but even alert and educated people may be taken in by other forms of a confidence trick." (I would argue that a consistent profile of a confidence trick victim looks a lot like your average Citizen these days) Sarsapariller fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Golli posted:I'm gonna be President/Treasurer of the HOA. I'd like to report a commando that doesn't have the correct curtains in his Banu Merchantman's cargo bay windows. He also keeps it parked on the curb instead of in his hangar.
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Drunk Theory posted:How are they two different things you loving moron. X acres of sectioned off space land cost 100$. Or instead, they sell you a beacon that is good to claim X acres of space land for 100$ (and it probably only works in certain areas) Don't waste your breath lmao ShapCap posted:It was specifically stated that you will have to go to an office to register the claim and make it yours... which is where you will need the paperwork and pay for the license. Having license fees already paid for doesn't negate the need to go to the office and file the papers... But we're arguing over a mechanic that doesn't even exist...so I'll crawl back into my cave now :p Guy has been arguing that because they're not selling specific plots it's fine, totally ignoring that basically every other game that's ever sold land claims or property deeds also forces you to go drive around and pick one. It's like the Archeage land rushes never happened lmao. https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/7er991/here_we_go_they_are_going_to_start_selling_land/dq703rc/
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X-Ultron posted:I'd like to report a commando that doesn't have the correct curtains in his Banu Merchantman's cargo bay windows. He also keeps it parked on the curb instead of in his hangar. I'd like to report a commando who has a mere Banu Merchantman. We don't associate with their kind here, this is a Polaris neighbourhood. Honestly, the org will just let anyone in these days. Make them show their Idris before they're even allowed to buy a box of beacons, that's what I say.
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X-Ultron posted:I'd like to report a commando that doesn't have the correct curtains in his Banu Merchantman's cargo bay windows. He also keeps it parked on the curb instead of in his hangar. Also, his on-property refinery is painted a non-standard color and he did not get a permit to make modifications to his landing pad.
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Loxbourne posted:I'd like to report a commando who has a mere Banu Merchantman. We don't associate with their kind here, this is a Polaris neighbourhood. You will be pleased to hear that the slight increase in monthly fees will help defray the costs of security gates at all entrances and we are currently accepting applications from Aurora owners looking to bootstrap their way to success to work security - weekends and holiday availability required!
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Loxbourne posted:I'd like to report a commando who has a mere Banu Merchantman. We don't associate with their kind here, this is a Polaris neighbourhood. I'm going to buy the airspace around the neighborhood because the HOA failed to pay taxes on it, then charge a fee to land. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/07/542076983/wealthy-san-francisco-neighborhood-fails-to-pay-taxes-loses-private-street
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Sarsapariller posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7g4gjf/im_starting_a_farming_colony_whos_in/?st=jajxo4ii&sh=b60f001c How loving retarded do you have to be to not see right through this And what is the point of any of it, do you buy the flag, plop it down somewhere, assuming anything even works, and then what? Wait 5 years? Buying land in that glitchy broken poo poo, gently caress me
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Wait wait wait. If Star Citizen sells land, and you can start your own government... Are we about to see Sovereign Citizens?
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Drunk Theory posted:Buy into Line of Defense. Goon grey market illegal millions are simply pumped into LoD to launder the money. Derek is just our money washer. Obviously nobody sane legitimately buys LoD, however buying up thousands of copies with illegally scammed Star Citizen money is a perfect way to report taxable profit for goons and get clean money back. Derek's cut is 25%. Then Lowtax charges his usual 6% on all goon profits as well, which is you know, as his name suggests, is pretty low. The fact that they finally figured out our system is pretty impressive. Rad Russian fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Sarsapariller posted:Wait wait wait. If Star Citizen sells land, and you can start your own government... Not futuristic enough. Sovereign Citizens in Space.....perfect
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Not pay to win. Ignore the land rush as the official release comes out and the people that stock up on these beacons and ships with longer jumps or whatever to get to the choice spots first
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Rad Russian posted:Goon grey market illegal millions are simply pumped into LoD to launder the money. Derek is just our money washer. Obviously nobody sane legitimately buys LoD, however buying up thousands of copies with illegally scammed Star Citizen money is a perfect way to report taxable profit for goons and get clean money back. Lowtax charges his usual 6% on all profits as well, which is you know, as his name suggests, is pretty low.  Also, 
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Sharik posted:Land_Claim_Beacon_Estate.jpg Maybe you could use it as a weapon? https://youtu.be/MPMmC0UAnj0?t=1m56s
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What happens when I go to drive my land claim into ground but clip through it? Do I now have to live underground?
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I know it isn't coming out. But what mechanism exists to prevent whales from buying more beacons than their exits land to use it on? Have I achieved "thinking too much about this"?
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So if they manage to hire the artist they've advertised for doing the brochures, they'll start pumping out glossies of properties and condos and space apartments Derek I swear to god you buy up the entire stock of space flags Buy up all the land Land grey market incoming
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