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comedyblissoption posted:Green New Deal. Massive youth jobs program. $15 minimum wage. Even if she personally does not benefit directly from these programs, the rising bargaining position of labor and lowered unemployment will dramatically benefit her. These programs put an upward pressure on wages. The rising keynesian economic demand will also indirectly benefit her. Health insurance killing off parasites is a good thing.
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I want to throw my shoes at Howard Dean.
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comedyblissoption posted:except for parasites in the health insurance industry. It will even benefit them since they'll still have access to medical care when they're CRUELLY THROWN OUT ONTO THE STREET because apparently the detailed skills required to be an insurance industry executive cannot transfer to any other industry at all ever.
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comedyblissoption posted:Green New Deal. Massive youth jobs program. $15 minimum wage. Even if she personally does not benefit directly from these programs, the rising bargaining position of labor and lowered unemployment will dramatically benefit her. These programs put an upward pressure on wages. The rising keynesian economic demand will also indirectly benefit her. one would almost think wj wasn't so much as interested in solving problems as he is winning at a game of "woker than thou"
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Matt Zerella posted:Health insurance killing off parasites is a good thing. 
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:one would almost think wj wasn't so much as interested in solving problems as he is winning at a game of "woker than thou" loving bingo
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:one would almost think wj wasn't so much as interested in solving problems as he is winning at a game of "woker than thou" Nonsense, he just wants something that will specifically benefit his real friend who exists and is a physical flesh-and-blood person that he didn't make up for our benefit at all.
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the economic rents and misery imposed on americans' healthcare is a colossal waste. it's an uniquely american giant iron ball on the entire economy of the united states. even rich people hate it
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:Mobile Homes Are So Expensive Now, Hurricane Victims Can’t Afford Them
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Phone posted:ok ok ok We rebuild PR with loads of wind turbines, half are powered while the other half generate energy. When the hurricane hits you point the fans at the hurricane thereby destroying it through its own power. Genius.
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comedyblissoption posted:you need a bachelor's degree to work in certain starbucks stores. otherwise, your application goes in the trash what why
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If only this was the good old days when instability could lead to some drat commies taking over the place.
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Squizzle posted:what because there are enough jobless college graduates that they can do that
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Squizzle posted:what A highschooler with no debt is free to gently caress off and be a crappy barista. Overqualified employees with no job prospects for them to leave you = better labor for less cost.
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Shear Modulus posted:because there are enough jobless college graduates that they can do that
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/935635686534930433 once again it apparently falls to black people to try and save the democrats from themselves
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could someone link me to the post explaining how the debt could be solved literally overnight by the government if it had the will to do so? i thought that was particularly interesting, but i can't remember who said it (either it wasn't comedyblissoption or i didn't dig far enough back into the post history, because i haven't found the right search terms yet)
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:could someone link me to the post explaining how the debt could be solved literally overnight by the government if it had the will to do so? i thought that was particularly interesting, but i can't remember who said it (either it wasn't comedyblissoption or i didn't dig far enough back into the post history, because i haven't found the right search terms yet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillion_dollar_coin
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there's not such a thing as "solving" the debt. it's more like realizing there's no such thing as a debt crisis in the US currently and it's just a propaganda term like globalization spewed by the media and politicians and think tanks to encourage policies benefitting the wealthy. edit: note that I'm talking about the fiscal government debt. there's other types of debt (e.g. student loans, personal medical debt) that could be solved by the US government overnight by fiat with a stroke of a pen. there's a jimmy dore talk where he interviews someone about this when jon oliver was making fun of jill stein for her student debt loan forgiveness program. comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 23:53 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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the trillion dollar coin would stimulate the economy into 6% yearly growth through investment in heist films, novels and tv shows
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the idea that the government needs to tax someone to get revenue for its spending is just plain false. imagine a world where the US government freezes the USD monetary supply at a fixed amount and never increased it ever again. well, such a stupid policy is similar to a policy of making the fiscal federal government budget zero-balanced. fiat money and federal government spending should be viewed as a form of labor allocation.
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comedyblissoption posted:Green New Deal. Massive youth jobs program. $15 minimum wage. Even if she personally does not benefit directly from these programs, the rising bargaining position of labor and lowered unemployment will dramatically benefit her. These programs put an upward pressure on wages. The rising keynesian economic demand will also indirectly benefit her. I’m really skeptical about upward pressure on wages given everything we’re seeing in the labor market today. these jobs suck, not just because of the wage, and their inherent duck still exists as a threat like it’s mystifying how everyone can be so gung-ho “capitalism is killing us” here then like say that the only answer is a new veneer on liberalism
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comedyblissoption posted:the idea that the government needs to tax someone to get revenue for its spending is just plain false. imagine a world where the US government freezes the USD monetary supply at a fixed amount and never increased it ever again. well, such a stupid policy is similar to a policy of making the fiscal federal government budget zero-balanced. the biggest reason to tax the rich is because they have too much money
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I’m really skeptical about upward pressure on wages given everything we’re seeing in the labor market today. these jobs suck, not just because of the wage, and their inherent duck still exists as a threat full communism now
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upward pressure on wages doesnt happen until worker power happens either through unionization and striking or threats of violence lead capital to head off the threat like the motivation behind the new deal
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why the gently caress can’t anyone else say “the Sanders platform is better than the status quo but it doesn’t go far enough to address the problems it’s purported to”
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:why the gently caress can’t anyone else say “the Sanders platform is better than the status quo but it doesn’t go far enough to address the problems it’s purported to” is that not the default assumption of everyone but the handful of neoliberal shills (including yourself) in this here thread
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:why the gently caress cant anyone else say the Sanders platform is better than the status quo but it doesnt go far enough to address the problems its purported to woker than thou
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I’m really skeptical about upward pressure on wages given everything we’re seeing in the labor market today. these jobs suck, not just because of the wage, and their inherent duck still exists as a threat  if you raise the floor of labor bargaining, wages will rise even in a parasitic capitalist economy. fdr liberalism in the form of jobs programs in the context of a capitalist economy is an old and forgotten veneer on liberalism. it is not new. the true solution is to move to democratization of the economic decisions of society. currently, the major economic decisions are made by a tiny minority. we should encourage a worker co-op sector of the economy in which the workers themselves democratically make the important decisions of a business instead of vesting all such power in the hands of a tiny few major shareholders.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:why the gently caress can’t anyone else say “the Sanders platform is better than the status quo but it doesn’t go far enough to address the problems it’s purported to” We agree on this, but the problem is when we say stuff along these lines you come in with a smug rear end take of "Why not Full Communism Now?" Like, the Sanders platform is probably as far left as we can push the Overton Window right now, in 2017. Can we work on getting that done first and then focus on the communism, or are you going to constantly chime in with more "the perfect is the enemy of the good" bullshit
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:woker than thou it’s tyool 2017 and the Democratic establishment is self-immolating and the Republicans are historically unpopular giving an enormous window to basically shove through whatever you want once the pendulum swings so what’s the harm in calling for anti-capitalist policy
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WampaLord posted:We agree on this, but the problem is when we say stuff along these lines you come in with a smug rear end take of "Why not Full Communism Now?" I joined DSA because I believe democratic socialism can win today
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the only change that will work is changing belief. people need to believe in actual democracy. they need to realize that the current economic system is an unaccountable tyranny that rules their lives. they need to realize that democratic economic systems are better. a great propaganda war has been waged by the capitalists to beat these ideas out of peoples' heads and to convince them that they are free and that they live in a democracy.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:why the gently caress can’t anyone else say “the Sanders platform is better than the status quo but it doesn’t go far enough to address the problems it’s purported to” you first WJ, you first.
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note that soviet russia took away democratic control of economic and political decisions. it was autocratic. soviet russia was basically in practice a form of state capitalism. emphasizing democracy is important so that people don't repeat those mistakes
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Shear Modulus posted:because there are enough jobless college graduates that they can do that that is loving wild~
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also here is something for you suck boners~  https://twitter.com/rcookeii/status/935622767533203456
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