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Ham Sandwiches posted:And so drug cartels did not start existing or selling drugs because of cryptocurrencies. Where did I ever say this??? It is easier for people to evade detection when moving large amount of money for nefarious purposes with BTC versus USD yes or no? BTC transfers skirt all the financial regulations put in place to stop such people from doing business, yes or no? Cryptos enabled the creation of marketplaces like The Silk Road and thus distribution channels for drugs/porn, yes or no? COMRADES fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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COMRADES posted:I've having trouble understanding how you can say BTC did nothing to enable child pornographers while at the same time in the very same sentence you say those people use BTC because of advantages it has over USD. Like, what? Blaming the fact that people use cryptocurrencies for illegal things is just like blaming fiat money for people using it to conduct illegal transactions. Neither one created the demand for the illegal good or service nor did they create the provider of the good or service. That's it dude. Since you seem to be really, really struggling with this let's try to focus on this one statement.
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COMRADES posted:Where did I ever say this??? Let me make this simple for you, commie bear: Hammy is dumb, and so obsessed with owning people in arguments about Bitcoin that he will contradict statements he made a sentence earlier
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wasn't ham sandwiches the guy running shameless gish gallops in a thread we had last year
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Blaming the fact that people use cryptocurrencies for illegal things is just like blaming fiat money for people using it to conduct illegal transactions. Neither one created the demand for the illegal good or service nor did they create the provider of the good or service. That's it dude. Since you seem to be really, really struggling with this let's try to focus on this one statement. One makes it easier than the other to do those illegal things yes or no? That's what it comes down to. That's the definition of the world 'enabling' my dude.
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Blade Runner posted:Let me make this simple for you, commie bear: Hammy is dumb, and so obsessed with owning people in arguments about Bitcoin that he will contradict statements he made a sentence earlier This guy has felt the need to humblebrag to the relationship thread on the following topics: 140 IQ, not that IQ tests matter Slept with over 100 women, not that the number of partners is a big deal lmao
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Wulfolme posted:wasn't ham sandwiches the guy running shameless gish gallops in a thread we had last year He also has very strong opinions on vaccines and autism
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Ham Sandwiches posted:This guy has felt the need to humblebrag to the relationship thread on the following topics: All of these things are true, including the fact that the arbitrary number on a smart boy test is pointless and the number of people who have allowed you to stick their dick in them are completely unimportant and worthless to brag about IQ and sexual partners are pointless numbers that stupid people ascribe worth to due to their lack of knowledge, much like Bitcoin
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COMRADES posted:One makes it easier than the other to do those illegal things yes or no? That's what it comes down to. That's the definition of the world 'enabling' my dude. Cryptocurrencies are useful for a subset of transactions that are banned, but the argument here is "Regular citizens should not be able to conduct transactions that their government does not approve of, because drug dealers and pornographers can do them too" And I don't buy that, sorry. The fact that those criminals will obviously use currencies that offer advantages over fiat money does not mean that regular people should be discouraged from using these same currencies. Those types of criminals are a fact of life and have been part of our society for thousands of years. The Secret Service and DEA were not about to shut down all child porn and drug manufacture before cryptocurrencies came along. Nor do I believe that people start selling drugs and making porn because hey, cryptos! I find these arguments specious.
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Blade Runner posted:All of these things are true, including the fact that the arbitrary number on a smart boy test is pointless and the number of people who have allowed you to stick their dick in them are completely unimportant and worthless to brag about 1. Claims these numbers are stupid 2. Makes sure to tell strangers what his numbers are, while cautioning people the numbers are stupid Why not skip the part where you disclose what your numbers are, if they are so stupid
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threads are always a lot more active and engaging when they have a punching bag for everyone to rally around godspeed ham sandwich godspeed ham
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Cryptocurrencies are useful for a subset of transactions that are banned, but the argument here is "Regular citizens should not be able to conduct transactions that their government does not approve of, because drug dealers and pornographers can do them too" Sure, if BTC had any other value to it then sure. Like, banning the internet entirely because CP exists would definitely be a dumb overreach. And you know, I'm not even saying BTC should be banned. What I am saying is that due to rampant speculation and hype a lot of regular people out there are going to get boned and people buying BTC to profit off them later (which describes 99.99% of this thread I am positive) should be extremely wary. Uranium has 5-10% of his portfolio in BTC? Fine. Great. Not for me but whatever. That poster also seems to know what they are doing a little bit though which definitely doesn't describe 99% of the people talking about BTC I've met. In general though BTC rerepresents another blip of stupid poo poo in a sea of stupid poo poo I am tired of dealing with and I can't wait for it to go away already so I can stop hearing people talk about it. Ham Sandwiches posted:Nor do I believe that people start selling drugs and making porn because hey, cryptos! I find these arguments specious. Idk why you keep saying this as if I ever asserted it. All I said was cryptos enable these people.
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Also it's good for my ego that Hammy's insults against me amount to "Smart boy who fucks a lot, prolly narcissistic" and the insults levied against him are "Retard Bitcoin man who doesn't understand basic finance concepts and thinks vaccines cause autism" All of these things are true, so If you're wondering why I included my own numbers, it's actually so people don't think I'm just salty and claiming that something I'm insufficient in is unimportant. It's very easy to characterize a person who got an extremely bad score on an IQ test railing against it and saying that it's worthless as someone who just got a 90 and is salty, the same as it's easy to say someone pointing out that sexual partners are a pretty worthless metric is a salty virgin. You can choose not to believe the numbers I put forward, I guess, but by including them and acknowledging that they're above average, it dodges the counterpoint that the only reason I don't value those metrics is because I am insufficient relative to them. also buttcoin
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You see? There's like 10 posts a minute in here thanks to our plucky little punching bag. I love threads that keep giving you more to read.
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And this is hosed, too.
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Ham Sandwiches posted:The creation of cryptocurrencies did nothing to create or enable those things you rail against, they just happened to start using cryptocurrencies Ham Sandwiches posted:as well for their transactions due to their advantages crazy when someone changes what they are saying from "no it doesnt" to "yes it does" in the same sentence without blinking an eye
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Blade Runner posted:Also it's good for my ego that Hammy's insults against me amount to "Smart boy who fucks a lot, prolly narcissistic" and the insults levied against him are "Retard Bitcoin man who doesn't understand basic finance concepts and thinks vaccines cause autism" I thought IQ tests didn't matter so I don't see how you can claim you're smart from a meaningless metric?? Also I don't claim vaccines cause autism, just that there's an attitude of indifference to people's concerns on vaccines that I disagree with quote:If you're wondering why I included my own numbers, it's actually so people don't think I'm just salty and claiming that something I'm insufficient in is unimportant. It's very easy to characterize a person who got an extremely bad score on an IQ test railing against it and saying that it's worthless as someone who just got a 90 and is salty, the same as it's easy to say someone pointing out that sexual partners are a pretty worthless metric is a salty virgin. You can choose not to believe the numbers I put forward, I guess, but by including them and acknowledging that they're above average, it dodges the counterpoint that the only reason I don't value those metrics is because I am insufficient relative to them. See I believe it was an elaborate way to bore strangers with your particular stats while also being able to claim that you weren't doing anything of the sort All I know in the end I sure know more about you w/r/t those two factoids than I think strictly necessary and find it interesting that's the case
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Wulfolme posted:You see? There's like 10 posts a minute in here thanks to our plucky little punching bag. I love threads that keep giving you more to read. Lol your observation was literally 4 posts earlier did you feel the need to suck your own dick about how insightful it was
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Ham Sandwiches posted:I thought IQ tests didn't matter so I don't see how you can claim you're smart from a meaningless metric?? I am glad this has brought us closer together, forums poster Ham Sandwiches
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COMRADES posted:Sure, if BTC had any other value to it then sure. Like, banning the internet entirely because CP exists would definitely be a dumb overreach. This is the gist of what I'm tying to say, and blaming the internet for the existence of porn or drugs is also dumb quote:And you know, I'm not even saying BTC should be banned. What I am saying is that due to rampant speculation and hype a lot of regular people out there are going to get boned and people buying BTC to profit off them later (which describes 99.99% of this thread I am positive) should be extremely wary. Uranium has 5-10% of his portfolio in BTC? Fine. Great. Not for me but whatever. That poster also seems to know what they are doing a little bit though which definitely doesn't describe 99% of the people talking about BTC I've met. I think it's ok if people make risky + speculative investments as long as they understand them to be so. Cryptocurrencies are risky and speculative.
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Blade Runner posted:I am glad this has brought us closer together, forums poster Ham Sandwiches See you in a week or so when we're calling each other loving stupid 
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Ham Sandwiches posted:
*Holds hand to mouth and shouts* How fat were they?
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Ham Sandwiches posted:See you in a week or so when we're calling each other loving stupid
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Ham Sandwiches posted:I think it's ok if people make risky + speculative investments as long as they understand them to be so. Cryptocurrencies are risky and speculative. you see back then it was a sure thing but now its risky and speculative
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Oscar Wild posted:*Holds hand to mouth and shouts* 13,000 cumulative lbs I calculated this with my smart boy abilities
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Um, why don’t you guys get it? When Bitcoin is used fork something good (for example: ) it is because Bitcoin is good and makes good things happen. When it is used for something bad it’s just because pedos are going to pedo and not the fault of Bitcoin.
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Blade Runner posted:Also it's good for my ego that Hammy's insults against me amount to "Smart boy who fucks a lot, prolly narcissistic" and the insults levied against him are "Retard Bitcoin man who doesn't understand basic finance concepts and thinks vaccines cause autism" eh Ham Sandwiches is an idiot who is unnecessarily importing EN drama outside of its proper context, but I will say that its probably a good idea to be cognizant of the fact that it goes the other way as well, and for someone who has attributes people desire (be that looks, wealth, status, social/sexual success, intelligence) to excessively discount those things is often not much of a better look, since its easy (and often correct) to make the assumption that they're taking things for granted LGD fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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Blade Runner posted:13,000 cumulative lbs
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Ham sandwiches still has to give me 5 demonstratable advantages of bitcoin over the USD (or GBP, or similar, who cares), while simultaniously stating that bitcoin has both, tons of advantages, and no advantages since the "it's still emergent tech".
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Also i am not even joking i have a 142 profesionally measured stanford-binet timed test IQ and i just bought Bitcoin. What do you think of that, fellow gifted poster Blade Runner?
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lol you took a professional IQ test
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Drone_Fragger posted:Ham sandwiches still has to give me 5 demonstratable advantages of bitcoin over the USD (or GBP, or similar, who cares), while simultaniously stating that bitcoin has both, tons of advantages, and no advantages since the "it's still emergent tech". Ok then my suggestion is don't buy or trade any cryptocurrencies until you see a compelling use case that works for you! Whether you do or don't understand why cryptocurrencies are useful and in what situtions is not going to change the decision making of billions of people around the earth, it just means you'll stay ignorant / uninformed until it's real obvious. Not a big deal but also not much of an argument either way.
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Stefan Prodan posted:lol you took a professional IQ test
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i have a huge dick and a brillion betcoins
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Take it from me, a wealthy and popular yet humble genius who has sex with loads of hotties: Bitcoin is the future and will continue increasing in value all the way to 100k and beyond.
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Uranium 235 posted:i have a huge dick and a brillion betcoins PM me 
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seriously i have sex almost every day, it's great. No fatties etc. And I'm a chessmaster.
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Ham Sandwiches posted:Nor do I believe that people start selling drugs and making porn because hey, cryptos! I find these arguments specious. eight transactions per second
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vortmax posted:Ross Ulbricht literally started growing and selling shrooms to open Silk Road 1 because Bitcoin, so... Hi Vortmax, this is the third time I've asked this question with no reply, though I understand you've stated before you're only here to talk poo poo and not actually respond to people: What happens when cryptocurrencies are doing 8 transactions per second or even more, like 10? What will you claim you were saying with the 8 per second?
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