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Reene posted:I'm aware, but it neither makes me less disappointed nor the hobby a safer place for people like me. Yeah. Being sluggishly reactive isn't good enough. Its better than totally ignoring but it's the lowest bar otherwise.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 21:05 |
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Lightning Lord posted:it's the lowest bar otherwise. Pretty accurate description of TG as an industry.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 21:23 |
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LuiCypher posted:Pretty accurate description of TG as an industry. Traditional Games: It's the lowest bar otherwise.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 21:31 |
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Reene posted:This is the takeaway point of all this yes and it's absolutely wild that so many people appear to have missed this in favor of acting like it's one guy It was also tweeted out on a Saturday night of a holiday weekend, why are people expecting like a fully formed response that quickly
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 22:42 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:It was also tweeted out on a Saturday night of a holiday weekend, why are people expecting like a fully formed response that quickly There's also a big difference between what's expected from a corporation deeply involved in running a community, from which it makes significant profit, and a smaller unpaid volunteer organization. Having less patience with the former than with the latter isn't unreasonable.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 22:48 |
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I like the MTG team, their hearts are in the right place, but they are definitely absolutely terrible at actually handling tourney player culture.
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 23:10 |
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Comrade Gorbash posted:Because it's an ongoing issue they've had years to address - in general AND specifically with this particular rear end in a top hat and his friends - with an established pattern of them making this kind of statement and then not actually trying to do anything about the underlying problems. If this a preliminary to them getting their poo poo together, great. But it's long overdue, and past experience suggests its not. and I agree with all of that, but this response of "they only sent a tweet!!!" Is a little unfair at this specific moment in this specific instance
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# ? Nov 27, 2017 23:12 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:and I agree with all of that, but this response of "they only sent a tweet!!!" Is a little unfair at this specific moment in this specific instance
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 00:09 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:and I agree with all of that, but this response of "they only sent a tweet!!!" Is a little unfair at this specific moment in this specific instance I think the overarching problem a lot of folks have in this thread is that tweets are mostly acts of performative justice - a tweet is a simple statement, not an actual action, and isn't worth the paper it's written on. Tweets are often used to say you'll do something and then not actually do it. A big organization like Wizards, which is owned by Hasbro, should be able to take concrete actions beyond a simple tweet much more quickly since they likely have far more robust HR departments/legal counsels breathing down their necks, unlike Green Ronin or singular entities. Ideally, when they made the tweet they should have already had a concrete response in place to demonstrate the sincerity (and seriousness) of their actions.
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 17:46 |
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LuiCypher posted:I think the overarching problem a lot of folks have in this thread is that tweets are mostly acts of performative justice - a tweet is a simple statement, not an actual action, and isn't worth the paper it's written on. Tweets are often used to say you'll do something and then not actually do it. HR and legal are also off on the Saturday immediately after Thanksgiving is the thing Also they've said there's going to be stuff coming later today
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 19:53 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:HR and legal are also off on the Saturday immediately after Thanksgiving is the thing Fair enough! I think we all know how it is, being the holidays and all.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 00:32 |
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Arivia posted:What about videos where Super Mario recruits you for Hezbollah? I haven't found that hat yet in Odyssey. BENGHAZI 2 posted:HR and legal are also off on the Saturday immediately after Thanksgiving is the thing Here it is. https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/taking-action-harassment-and-bullying-2017-11-28 quote:We are incredibly proud of the Magic community and the tremendous good it does in people's lives. Magic is a game meant to bring people together—it's right there in the name "The Gathering." Our community is filled with stories of lifelong friendships and bonds forged through tapping lands, casting spells, and swinging in with everything for the win.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 05:01 |
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Someone should send that to Mearls
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 05:04 |
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slap me and kiss me posted:Someone should send that to Mearls Then he can forward it on to Zak.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 05:27 |
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canyoneer posted:I haven't found that hat yet in Odyssey. It's a keffiyeh.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 05:59 |
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Bedlamdan posted:It's a keffiyeh. Nothing, what's a keffiyeh with you?
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 22:50 |
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Schadenboner posted:Nothing, what's a keffiyeh with you? For me? A shemagh.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 23:30 |
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this pun chain both shows us the value of diversity and the fact that no culture is safe from goddamn pun chains.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 23:37 |
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sexpig by night posted:this pun chain both shows us the value of diversity and the fact that no culture is safe from goddamn pun chains. This is the future liberals want. Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Nov 30, 2017 |
# ? Nov 30, 2017 00:29 |
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But did the known harasser cop a DCI ban?
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 14:49 |
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Mors Rattus posted:But did the known harasser cop a DCI ban? not yet as far as we know. they've already contacted him regarding the investigation, which means they're getting close.
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 14:50 |
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Any goons apart from the guy who wrote Legacy at Dragonmeet today? I was underwhelmed by the con. Trade hall less interesting - a lot of the stands seemed much smaller, bring and buy mostly boardgames, no house Atraides with their boxes of 2nd hand stuff. Played a game of Follow in the indie game room. Didn't wait around for the auction
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# ? Dec 2, 2017 19:33 |
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Angrymog posted:Any goons apart from the guy who wrote Legacy at Dragonmeet today? Yeah, it was a bit of a letdown. The trade hall felt like it could've been structured better to get people flowing through it, and seemed to be missing a few of the big hitters. I was on the stall all day though so I didn't get a chance to see how the upper hall fared.
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# ? Dec 2, 2017 19:47 |
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MTGHeadquarters/Unsleeved Media ate a lifetime DCI ban with no chance to appeal.
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# ? Dec 8, 2017 21:13 |
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Nuns with Guns posted:MTGHeadquarters/Unsleeved Media ate a lifetime DCI ban with no chance to appeal. Awesome. Can't even go to DCI events as a "reporter" now, right?
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# ? Dec 8, 2017 21:56 |
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That was the right decision. Shame it took them so long to come to it, but I'll take what I can get.
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# ? Dec 8, 2017 22:07 |
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Travis Woo also ate a year-long ban over the facebook group bullshit, which should be a sharp jab in the rear end one hopes. The Canadian MTG judge association also stripped a L3 judge of his certification in response to sexual harassment complaints, and their statement about it should frankly serve as a template to others. https://blogs.magicjudges.org/canada/2017/12/07/statement-de-certification-of-canadian-l3/ quote:Hey everyone – so a thing happened and it’s time we address it publicly. Last weekend, Chris Lansdell was de-certified as the result of a Judge Conduct Committee (JCC) case for sexual harassment. He is not to participate as a judge in Magic events. He can attempt to re-enter the community by testing for L1 *only if* the JCC believes sufficient time has elapsed and Chris has shown appropriate positive change. As of now this does not prevent him from playing in Magic events.
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 01:22 |
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I have to say, it looks like they're finally getting their asses in gear to deal with this stuff. I hope they keep it up.
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 02:04 |
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Not specific to TG, but a lot of people in the TG industry (like me) are getting hosed over by a change in Patreon's pricing policy https://blog.patreon.com/updating-patreons-fee-structure/ https://twitter.com/alexandraerin/status/939003277613588487 https://twitter.com/VERWHO/status/939257271850340357 http://file770.com/?p=39418 - round up of reactions so far Anyway, my patreon hasn't been hit too hard but it's a monthly. Per item creators, especially ones with lots of low pledge backers are getting slaughtered. This fucks over RPG people like Dyson Logos and Michael Prescott really bad. Dennis Detwiller is already talking about switching to Drip (a Patreon competitor launched by Kickstarter)
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 03:07 |
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Patreon will at least pretend to address your complaints at their leisure: https://twitter.com/jackconte/status/939309744451440640
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 03:45 |
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canyoneer posted:Awesome. Can't even go to DCI events as a "reporter" now, right? I don't think it prevents him from getting into a DCI-sanctioned tourney in an unofficial capacity, but he could never compete in one again or get an official judge certification or anything else that would feed into a MtG nerd's ego. WotC already stopped sending him any prerelease/demo stuff, too, so who know what his youtube channel could be about now besides how he's going to sue WotC for banning him (and yes he said he's going to do that).
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 05:44 |
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In good magic news, the Loading Ready Run Unstable Pre-Prerelease? just finished, and it was amazing. Someone cast Better than One to summon Mark Rosewater as his two headed giant partner, then use Spike to cast Shahrazad pulling all three of them into a subgame.
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 05:48 |
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Nuns with Guns posted:MTGHeadquarters/Unsleeved Media ate a lifetime DCI ban with no chance to appeal. In the spirit of the un-set, Bruceski fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Dec 9, 2017 |
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clockworkjoe posted:Anyway, my patreon hasn't been hit too hard but it's a monthly. Per item creators, especially ones with lots of low pledge backers are getting slaughtered. This fucks over RPG people like Dyson Logos and Michael Prescott really bad. Dennis Detwiller is already talking about switching to Drip (a Patreon competitor launched by Kickstarter) I was planning to start a Patreon in January so hopefully Drip becomes open to all soon (and doesn't do this)
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 07:58 |
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Kickstarter already manages big projects pretty well so I'd expect Drip to focus more on small-scale stuff, which hopefully means it won't do what Patreon's doing.
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 08:10 |
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https://www.patreon.com/posts/everybody-wants-15770595 WRT the Patreon shenanigans, Evil Hat has added a couple new pledge tiers; they are cheaper versions of the $4 and $12 tiers that take the fees into account; so you can continue to just give a grand total of $4/$12 and keep the same rewards.
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 12:47 |
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Nuns with Guns posted:MTGHeadquarters/Unsleeved Media ate a lifetime DCI ban with no chance to appeal. I see the nerd engine is whining because they didn't let him sell out his MTG Online collection before banning him. Digital game cards are not an investment, idiots. Ettin posted:I was planning to start a Patreon in January so hopefully Drip becomes open to all soon (and doesn't do this) It mostly looks like it's a big deal to people who have per item schemes. One of the authors I support is hosed on this, they have a ton of people doing $1-$3 per chapter, and this ads 25-30% to those pledges' costs to the patrons. Bullshit money grab ahoy. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Dec 9, 2017 |
# ? Dec 9, 2017 13:47 |
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The writing was on the wall for a few days that a ban was imminent, he had plenty of time to liquidate his cards. Also I kind of love that there were fiscal consequences to being a poo poo.
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 13:57 |
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Ettin posted:I was planning to start a Patreon in January so hopefully Drip becomes open to all soon (and doesn't do this)
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# ? Dec 9, 2017 14:35 |
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moths posted:The writing was on the wall for a few days that a ban was imminent, he had plenty of time to liquidate his cards. Though I think the more important fiscal aspect is the underlying message here about the consumer base. The more the alt-right manbabies throw tantrums, the more it seems to me that "fiscal consequences" are the primary underlying fear. Not that they don't hate women or minorities, but a lot of the hostility towards diversity in different circles seems focused on de-legitimizing the idea that companies doing so are doing it for economic reasons moreso than moral. Its "SJWs forcing their ideology" as a narrative, because the alternative would be recognizing that women and minorities represent an economic opportunity for companies. The sum of all fears for that type is that companies will do the math and conclude that lost sales from banning shitheads like this one are more than made up for by making their markets friendlier to other groups. Which is, specifically in this case, why the symbolism of the ban is more damaging than the reality (since apparently MTGheadquarters wasn't heavily involved in sanctioned stuff anyway). Its basically a message to MRAs that their economic importance is limited, and that putting up with their poo poo isn't an economic necessary evil for the company. It strikes to the heart of all their insecurities. Now if only Twitter could figure that out too.... (Though to be honest, Twitter's whole model of business is such a stumbling shitshow they may well need to humor the manbabies to keep the thing staggering on)
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