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Barrage is 4 hits at full 1x damage. Comparative skills: 6* Northern Cross is the same potency. Flare Strike is the same potency (though over 5 hits, so a higher damage cap). It's slightly stronger than most of the physical 5* elemental skills (though the Darkness skills are as strong or stronger, with their own drawbacks). Full Charge is still stronger but contingent on having a way to cast it faster to keep a higher average. Dragoon Jump is the strongest potency 5* NE ability at 4 x 1.23x, with Jump time. So Barrage doesn't dethrone anything but it's perfectly good non-elemental damage. It is random target, though.
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ceaselessfuture posted:The FFTA banner is superior in every conceivable way. the idiot part of my brain that doesn't understand delayed gratification: "but i wanna pull nooooowwwwwwwww"
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Hogama posted:Barrage is 4 hits at full 1x damage. I guess I could slap it on Noctis and have an Omega Drive-lite option, so thanks for the numbers! Brother Entropy posted:the idiot part of my brain that doesn't understand delayed gratification: "but i wanna pull nooooowwwwwwwww" two days, you can do ittttttt <3
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oh poo poo i assumed it was at least a week away, yeah i can sit on my 50 for two days
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Nope, come Thursday the 30th at normal event time, this thread will get five pages of goons getting lucky, other goons getting mad that goons got lucky and they didn't, and people spending 500 mythril only to get garbage and quit the game fiveever. I think last time a banner was this hyped was Cloud USB, and that was a much worse banner overall.
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considering i got saintly excalibur in my unadvised fft pull on the renewal banners but have nothing for ramza i think i would be better off pulling on the ffta banner than waiting for the orlandeau one, confirm deny?
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rabidsquid posted:considering i got saintly excalibur in my unadvised fft pull on the renewal banners but have nothing for ramza i think i would be better off pulling on the ffta banner than waiting for the orlandeau one, confirm deny? I would probably throw a pull at this, and then decide if you should wait or try again. Orlandeau's USB is equally ridiculous, and having one dupe 6* isn't a dealbreaker on a banner.
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rabidsquid posted:considering i got saintly excalibur in my unadvised fft pull on the renewal banners but have nothing for ramza i think i would be better off pulling on the ffta banner than waiting for the orlandeau one, confirm deny? Ramza's USB is very good and it is on a much worse banner with the Alma/Orlandeau event, plus you have a visible high-profile dupe risk on that banner. Basically all you'd be gaining by waiting for that banner is a chance at Orlandeau's bonkers USB/LMR, whereas here not only is the gratification (or lack thereof) quicker, but also your "consolation prize" is Agrias's slightly less bonkers USB/LMR. tl;dr: I would pull in your situation. :justpull:
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i mean it's not like the fft events are rolling up back to back. there's what, a 3 month gap between them?
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Cowcaster posted:i mean it's not like the fft events are rolling up back to back. there's what, a 3 month gap between them? thats three months worth of distractions to waste mithril on, pal. also thanks for the advice i am gonna Just Pull
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Cowcaster posted:i mean it's not like the fft events are rolling up back to back. there's what, a 3 month gap between them? Just short of. The current translated banner set ends on the Onion Knight event and Dress Record Extravaganza (which should all hit around the turn of the new year), Orlandeau/Alma is four events after that (so a month, roughly). If you strike out on this banner (or are chomping at the bit for the Sword Hobo to do murderizing), you have til Early February to wait, barring unexpected event rearrangement.
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A question for you math nerds out there: My best dagger is 125 ATK and my best sword is almost double at 224 ATK. When using Dash and Slash, should I use my dagger, or would the sword still be better? What power of a dagger would I need to equal/surpass the sword?
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Gonna pull on FFTA, FF12, and FF6 Pretty hype to pull on a god drat event banner again
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I've only had experience with one fest, but these FFTA/FFT/FFIII banners literally seem fest-or-better quality.
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Im hoarding my FFT pulls until the NEXT FFT event which has a banner similar to this hyped one but with TGCid stuff too My FFT synergy is kinda all over the place though; Ramza Shout and Tailwind, Agrias SSB1 and OSB, Rapha USB, and Marach BSB. Its my only realm without a wmage medica
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I'm tempted to wait until the next FFT event because I've already pulled 4 Genji Gloves and I sure as hell don't want another. It helps that I don't have any duplicates on the banner that is three months out.
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I am going to put one or two on this TA banner, since I lack Ramza's USB as well as most of the other items. Then I'm waiting for a pull on XII, if I can resist Vivi.
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is that Water Banner a real thing or is my leg being pulled here?
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If you consider the powercreep level of the game at the moment the banner was up I'd say all of the five 30th fest banners are in top 5 banners of all time while I've played. Honorable mention to 2nd anniversary banner 4 which was another one stop shop for lategame clearing needs for the endgame we had 9 months ago. Once OK god banner comes it'll go to top 5 and FFTA can contend as well. Veterans can comment on older banners if they want, I remember hearing about a FFXIV god banner too. It seems very common that extremely strong relics get balanced by total garbage in banners (thanks for the two gun arms Awakening Cloud).
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 Get hosed you oversized eel.  (edit) My setup, if it'll help anyone:  Raines has BSB and full legend dive. Starts with Memento Mori, then BSB -> Command 2 -> Command 1 spam, unless BSB is available again. Fight should be over before either MM or Cmd2 buffs run out, so no need to ever recast them. Agrias has BSB, OSB and full legend dive. Starts with Holy Cross, followed by Guardbringers after both Protectga and Wall are up. BSB is used asap, then followed by OSB uses when possible. Ideally Relm should feed her an instant action for at least one soul break, otherwise I can't made it under 30s. Both DPS have +40% Holy boosts (both weapon and armor) Relm has the simple job of using the RW Wall, then Shellga or Curada depending on if someone other than Onion is the most wounded. Rest of the fight is just healing, including Enkidu use. She has USB + LMR. Onion drops his BSB, Protectga, and then punches himself if the face with Quick Hit. This usually ensures that he'll be the weakest, and dies to black fang. Ramza starts with Entrusting Raines once to get him going, then proceeds to Wrath+Entrust Agrias a couple of times. No need to wait till full bar usually, since Agrias is also taking damage. Usual flow is Entrust -> Wrath -> Entrust -> Wrath, etc. Attestant fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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The upcoming FFTA banner doesn't have the Orlandeu USB right? I really want to wait for that one. Are people excited for the Marche one here? It feels like we're close enough to the elemental banners which I actually need to beat magicites that I'd rather wait (Edit: or actually that Onion Knight banner...) THE AWESOME GHOST fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:The upcoming FFTA banner doesn't have the Orlandeu USB right? I really want to wait for that one. Are people excited for the Marche one here? No Orlandeau here. That's the next FFT event. The banners are very similar, with the only major item missing from the Orlandeau USB one compared to this, is Ramza USB. So if you don't mind missing out on that one, just wait till the next event.
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Neutral Zone Trap posted:If you consider the powercreep level of the game at the moment the banner was up I'd say all of the five 30th fest banners are in top 5 banners of all time while I've played. My top damage option for a very long time was feeding Orlandeu OSBs with entrust and spamming them. With Cloud USB (which is basically cheating) and his own USB, Tidus hits frequent 80k sapphire shots which are then double casted and then his USB chases for a total of like, 220k a turn. This is my strategy for even bosses that resist water at this point Attestant posted:No Orlandeau here. That's the next FFT event. The banners are very similar, with the only major item missing from the Orlandeau USB one compared to this, is Ramza USB. So if you don't mind missing out on that one, just wait till the next event. Oh yeah I totally don't care about Ramza USB, I've been using Rikku USB for all my buffs.
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Shoenin posted:is that Water Banner a real thing or is my leg being pulled here? It's real but I don't think we know much about. It got datamined during the update, and the banner header has Edge and Tidus USB pictured. Unknown what else it has, and when it comes.
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There was a Water Pick-Up Banner in JP that served as the "banner 2" to the OK USB event (which has just a single event banner). It's possible that's what's been datamined. A quick refresher of what JP's looked like: Water Pick-Up Banner posted:Edge's Kiku-ichimonji [USSB, +10 ATK] - 10 random Water/Lightning physical attacks, Wild Moon to user
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It's also the VI event for Leo and Edgar and... well, actually, it's another bonanza for Locke, who gets up to +100 ATK from relics after this update. Celes gets a good USB, too. Two new abilities; first up, an Earth version of the latest Knight holy move, then a thing for Locke (and maybe even Thancred can use it???) 5* Knight Ability, Earth Saber: 5 single-target Earth physical attacks, DEF -30% to user  5* Thief Ability, Soul Burn: 4 single-target Fire physical attacks, higher multiplier with lower % HP  Edgar and Leo get their dives, too! Legend Spheres posted:Edgar LM1: Machinist Damage +15% - Multiplier of all 20+1 hit UOSBs has been buffed from "20 x 0.40 + 1 x 8.00" to "20 x 0.55 + 1 x 8.00". Banner 1 posted:Locke's Orichalcum [UOSB, +10 ATK] - 20 single-target Fire ranged physical attacks & single-target Fire Overflow ranged physical attack Banner 2 posted:Leo's Defender [USSB, +10 ATK] - 10 single-target Earth/Holy physical attacks, ATK & DEF +30% to party, Knight Damage +30% & Swordplay Endowment to user No Poison chain, but Edgar hasn't completely abandoned the element. Becoming a Machinist version of Bartz, though- will this mean Fire and Lightning BSBs to come? Also, some big news (for JP right now, but to keep in mind for Global as well): BIG NEWS posted:Maintenance on 21st December, 0200-0600hrs JST.
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 Oh uh I guess entrusting Lightning to spam her USB really loving owns, who knew
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Man I dunno what I'm going to do with my mythril. I have 510 right now and I'm thinking: 2 pulls on the FFTA banner (maaaybe 3 if I don't get anything decent) 2 pulls on the IX banner (I really want something for Vivi) 2-4 pulls on whatever the December fest banners turn out to be, if they're actually good 2 pulls on the III banner maybe a pull on the next FFTA banner for a shot at Cid's USB, unless I have too many dupes Then probably save everything else for the next anniversary, which looks pretty nuts. This game is very good at making seemingly large piles of mythril disappear into the aether. Though I'm sure we'll be getting some giveaways for the holidays and between now and the next FFTA banner we would get like 300 more mythril normally anyway.
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FFTA is this week, shame I blew mythril chasing EnEarth relics for FFIV womp womp wwwoooommmpppppp I did get a Rydia LMR/USB/OSB out of it which was cool.
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I have 850 mythril but no banner is worthy of my stash. I hope the christmas fest has good stuff. Give me chains.
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Hogama posted:It's also the VI event for Leo and Edgar and... well, actually, it's another bonanza for Locke, who gets up to +100 ATK from relics after this update. Celes gets a good USB, too. So the daily missions are going away again in JP
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I was doing some reading on reddit to figure out what I should be doing with all my extra 1/2* magicites and uh yeah....that Inheritance system looks bonkers. As far as I understand, lvl 99 magicites can consume magicites and inherit passive abilities (pretty straight-forward: wind damage up for example) and inheritance EXP separate from the magicite's lvl EXP, which will boost the magicite's stats. Figuring out how much EXP you get and how to maximize it is some crazy bullshit science, but at the end of the day, the conclusion I came to is that I should not have been selling my 1/2* magicites...darn. Time to upgrade my magicite vault I guess.
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Way behind most of the thread, but I finally full cleared my first Torment today.  Jump Start Bahamut just exploded once I brought RW Cloud USB on USB Bartz with Zidane spamming imperils. 
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I was just looking at giving a Torment my first shot ever. Is wall not necessary or did you have it native? Because I do have Zidane USB and I have been meaning to see what a Cloud USB Steroid will do to it...
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Philouza posted:I was doing some reading on reddit to figure out what I should be doing with all my extra 1/2* magicites and uh yeah....that Inheritance system looks bonkers. As far as I understand, lvl 99 magicites can consume magicites and inherit passive abilities (pretty straight-forward: wind damage up for example) and inheritance EXP separate from the magicite's lvl EXP, which will boost the magicite's stats. Figuring out how much EXP you get and how to maximize it is some crazy bullshit science, but at the end of the day, the conclusion I came to is that I should not have been selling my 1/2* magicites...darn. Time to upgrade my magicite vault I guess. I could be wrong, but I think my impression from when I read about this months back was the 1* magicites are the most efficient ones and 2*s aren't really worth the extra time/XP, but someone feel free to correct me.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I was just looking at giving a Torment my first shot ever. Is wall not necessary or did you have it native? Because I do have Zidane USB and I have been meaning to see what a Cloud USB Steroid will do to it... I have it on Tyro, although Bahamut blew up so fast I probably would have been fine without it. My team was Zidane/Ramza/Yshtola/Bartz/Tyro. Zidane spammed his USB for the imperil, Ramza did Shout/USB/Chant, Ysh cast Asylum a couple times and did the MND Breakdown, Tyro cast Wall and breaks. Bartz did all the heavy lifting with Cloud USB, his USB, 30k+ per hit Snowball Strikes. I need to start working on more Torments beyond just the job motes in the first fight. Bahamut happened to be weak to my strongest team so it worked out nicely as a place to start.
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I need help with faster and more reliable Bismarck clears. My current team is physical: Lightning - enLightning SSB and OSB - Legend Dived - Lifesyphon and Thundering Quadstrike Edge - Last Stand SSB and USB - Legend Dived - 2 Swift Bolts Ramza - Shout - Wrath and Entrust OK - BSB - Wrath and Entrust Vanille - BSB - Shellga and Ultra Cure This is not a consistent team and it's not even close to sub-30. I have 2 pieces of +lightning gear on Lightning and a meter build RM on Edge. I have them spec'd so that Lightning does 99999 with her OB after an SSB. Edge sometimes double casts for 7K each and holds meter for Last Stand. I almost never have breathing room to use his USB. Vanille is there instead of Y'shtola just because of the instant entry which I feel like I need, but I really miss Y'shtola's instant BSB command 1. My Y'shtola is also Legend Dived so I might try witching to her for a couple runs to see if Asylum is actually better. However here's the thing: Whenever Bismarck decides to be a loving rear end in a top hat as do nothing but spam AoE magic and an above average number of Savage Breach Blasts, Vanille just can't keep up. What I'd like to know is if there are any other good adjustments I can make to this team OR if I should set up a mage team base around Shantotto USB. Sadly I don't have her CSB  Here are all my options for a lightning mage team: Shantotto - USB, BSB, R3 Chain Thundaga, no hones on any of the lightning witch abilities (but I could) Ashe BSB Garnet BSB (doesn't seem very good) Palom BSB Desch BSB OK BSB for mag boost Yuna BSB2 for mag boost and healing Raines BSB for stacking mag boost - Legend Dived Papalymo SSB for stacking mag boost and quickcast 3 - Papalymo can also use white magic Cloud of Darkness BSB for Radiant Shield Edge with SSB and USB for Last Stand and lightning ninja double cast with LD If I can get 11 more 4* Wisdom motes I can LD Vivi and hone Chain Thundaga or him Tons of +lightning armor to put on everyone Off the top of my head I feel like Yuna BSB2 and OK BSB are good starters for stacking magic and hastega and healing right off the bat, and of course OK can alternate between Entrusting and resetting his BSB. What else could I do for damage and/or more survivability?
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Good god Torment Bahamut's Megaflare hurts like a bitch without a wall. It completely nukes some of my characters. But Zidane is doing 56k Dash & Slash's with 15~20k Steel Storm chasers with that Cloud USB. EDIT: My first Torment cleared! With Mastery! I only had Minwu and Zidane standing at the end but apparently that was enough. Zidane just completely meltifried Bahamut's health. YoshiOfYellow fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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I for some reason can't beat Adel in CT. I've tried a few party combinations: The one that got furthest: Cid Raines, fully LD'd with BSB and OSB Rapha w/BSB Edea w/BSB Relm w/BSB & LMR Rosa w/BSB Also tried: Cid Raines, fully LD'd with BSB and OSB Rinoa w/CSB/BSB Edea w/BSB Tyro w/Wall, USB2 Rosa w/BSB Also tried: Orlandeau w/OSB/BSB (kitted w/ Lightning boosts for OSB) Sephiroth w/OSB/BSB Ramza w/Shout + Entrust Relm w/BSB & LMR Rosa w/BSB Also tried: Onion Knight w/BSB Tidus w/USB, BSB2 Minifilia w/SSB for ATK/Last Stand, also have BSB but didn't use Tyro w/Wall, USB2, off-heal Eiko w/BSB I've tried strategies with putting Regen/Shell on Rinoa so she doesn't die quick from drains, but either way I just can't seem to win. Any suggestions? A couple posts back I posted all my best stuff if that helps.
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