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Word floating of a compromise being put out to split policing powers from justice to create a home affairs ministry and Fitzgerald giving a formal apology (though how she apologises when Leo and her both insist she did nothing wrong is an interesting question...) Well that was before the new selection of documents was released. https://twitter.com/SarahBardon/status/935223159397212162?s=17 hoho edit: and to reiterate she ain't quitting https://twitter.com/FitzgeraldFrncs/status/935264358682292226?s=17 Can martin settle for letting this go without a scalp? If not an election at least a heave could be in the cards kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Jesus she's really loving doubling down. Surely knowingly falsely accusing McCabe of being a pedo constitutes interference in the O'Higgins Commission?
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 00:11 |
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Less than 12 hours until crunch time and all the major outlets are reporting that FG TDs and ministers are reportedly livid with Fitzgerald after yesterday's releases - tide may have turned against her now. Will Leo go for an 11th hour walk back?
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 09:34 |
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The annoying thing is that I don't think either Leo or Martin can back down without appearing weak to their respective Party. Leo maybe has an opportunity with yesterday's releases, and the opinion turning against Fitzgerald. At this point, the best course of action is for her to resign. She can still maintain that she has done nothing wrong (even though she clearly has), but that she's resigning "in the best interests of the Government/country" or whatever spin her office wants to put on it.
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 09:59 |
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irlZaphod posted:The annoying thing is that I don't think either Leo or Martin can back down without appearing weak to their respective Party. Leo maybe has an opportunity with yesterday's releases, and the opinion turning against Fitzgerald. At this point, the best course of action is for her to resign. She can still maintain that she has done nothing wrong (even though she clearly has), but that she's resigning "in the best interests of the Government/country" or whatever spin her office wants to put on it. Yeah I think yesterday has made a walk back even more difficult for Martin than it already was, Leo had placed himself in a position that he can't turf her out - the new emails would give him an excuse to reverse but knowing how much Leo values optics hell probably stick to his line. Only option really is to force Fitzgerald to step aside voluntarily pending the outcome of the tribunal... Excuse me after typing that I started to have violent flashbacks about boilers. Edit: https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/935444744104300544 kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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When's the no confidence motion getting voted on today?
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 10:51 |
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https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/935421654297202688 I have no love for FG so I'm not particularly upset by this, but I don't understand the stubbornness of either the Taoiseach or the Tánaiste. Leo should just tell her that he's going to throw her under the bus for the good of the party. That's politics. Maybe it won't look good for him, but neither is losing an election because of this. This is literally going to be the #1 issue on peoples minds.
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 11:02 |
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Entropy238 posted:When's the no confidence motion getting voted on today? FF are tabling their no confidence motion during their allotted private members time at 8pm - if theirs no movement by then the outcome is a foregone conclusion
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 11:22 |
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Mentioned this yesterday, but PLOT TWIST https://twitter.com/FrankGreaney/status/935465923112325120 (How long has this case has been going on? Is it related to the 32nd Dáil? I'm pretty sure those recommendations are from earlier this year).
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 12:22 |
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https://twitter.com/rte/status/935480262082916353 e: She's due to make a statement at 2pm apparently. irlZaphod fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Well, that's a relief, a pre-xmas election would have been shite both for Brexit negotiation sake and general pain-in-the-holery in December. Wonder if the confidence and supply arrangement will last another 6 months now?
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 13:21 |
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It also would have completely disrupted the Joint Oireachtas Committee on the 8th Amendment. I would expect a GE early in 2018 though. Can't see Confidence and Supply agreement lasting much longer. I suppose we should be thankful that she didn't run for FG leadership this year (and get in), I'm wondering now if she knew that the writing would be on the wall sooner or later.
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 13:35 |
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Wouldn't mind an auld spring election now. gently caress this C&S government. I barely know who to vote for tbh. Why can't Ireland have a Corbynite Labour party analogue.
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 14:17 |
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Minister for justice is such a poisoned chalice at this point that I wouldn't be surprised if they all knew this would come down the line, but hoped it wouldn't. Atleast thats what varadkars response leads me to believe. Irelands never going to have a corbyn style mainstream labour party while people remain dismissive of the left wing partys we already have. Vote Solidarity-PBP if you want the left presence amplified.
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 14:19 |
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irlZaphod posted:https://twitter.com/rte/status/935480262082916353 That's no fun at all
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 14:34 |
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Christmas election would have been properly shite, notwithstanding the immediate need to get someone in that will actually address homelessness and the rent crisis. FG do seem to be handling the border aspect of Brexit pretty well though.
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 14:41 |
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As a nordie I lust for chaos and political crisis
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 15:01 |
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Loving all the hot takes of "Uh actually the people do want an election before Christmas because of *checks thejournal dot ie* the homeless problem".
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 15:03 |
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The poor irishtimes girl didn’t get much sympathy over getting gazumped.
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# ? Nov 28, 2017 15:11 |
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Matt Frei livecasting the Ch4 news from outside Leinster House. Clearly the Brits were expecting a more turbulent day in Irish politics which could prove favourable to Britain's negotiating position. Get rekt, looks pretty cold out e: lol, now from the Ha'penny Bridge "the two countries were really starting to warm to each other before the Brexit vote, the Queen even came on a historic visit " We don't begrudge the British public as a whole you anus, we're just pointing out how poo poo your Government is WeAreTheRomans fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Nov 28, 2017 |
# ? Nov 28, 2017 20:11 |
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Looking forward to the presidential election coming up.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 12:47 |
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Wonder if Gerry will make a play for it. Probably not I’d imagine.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 12:51 |
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Is Mickie D gonna run for a second one?
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 12:58 |
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lemonadesweetheart posted:Is Mickie D gonna run for a second one? Yeah
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 13:04 |
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Micky D
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 13:28 |
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He probably will, and Gerard Craughwell is mad as heck about it and definitely not just seeking attention, because by golly Michael D said that he would definitely only do 1 term.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 13:29 |
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I had my reservations about him before he was elected but he's been a pretty good president.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 14:57 |
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https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/935599685611515904
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 16:06 |
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That aul one in the red hat is causing some serious nationalism among Irish Twitter.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 16:09 |
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That old bint near the end haha. I love it. She really looks like the actress from Wurzel Gummidge/Sherlock.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 16:10 |
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"You can't always have what you want in life."
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 16:41 |
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lemonadesweetheart posted:I had my reservations about him before he was elected but he's been a pretty good president. My favorite part about Micky D president is when he meets the players before rugby internationals
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 16:55 |
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irlZaphod posted:That aul one in the red hat is causing some serious nationalism among Irish Twitter. it's pretty good OP https://twitter.com/TheKavOfficial/status/935836936098508800
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 17:03 |
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Dead sound? I always thought the deeper into Devon and Cornwall you got the more insufferably tory everyone became.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 17:12 |
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It's pretty unfair to put northern england in the toerag category too. Cornish people are nice but weird though.
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 17:18 |
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Yeah I don't get the big upping of Cornish people, and the unfair generalisation of the rest of England as Toerags. Most of the bad people in England are Tories, also there's a lot of unsound pro-Brexit Welsh people
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 17:25 |
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it's probably because cornish is one of the celtic languages
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# ? Nov 29, 2017 18:04 |
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Our Simon is now Tánaiste
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# ? Nov 30, 2017 14:50 |
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julian assflange posted:Our Simon is now Taoiseach. 2 Taoisigh are better than 1?
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WeAreTheRomans posted:2 Taoisigh are better than 1? I corrected my typo
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