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A good poster
Jan 10, 2010

Guy Mann posted:

Glad to see that getting exactly what he wanted isn't going to stop the fat fake Nazi from raking in those sweet sweet outrage clicks on YouTube.

He changed his image from fake Nazi to carnival barker, and I think that works a lot better.

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il_cornuto
Oct 10, 2004

Wait what? I thought Jim Sterling was pretty vocally anti-nazi?

Edit: Oh, he dressed up sort of like a fake nazi at the start of the video I guess. Though given the name, I would have figured he was going for more of a modern inquisition type thing. He did make a good point about it being really weird that Valve can get away with selling some of the more offensive stuff on Steam though, and the quotes from indie developers about how all the crap makes it harder for good indies to be successful highlighted an aspect I hadn't really given much thought. There's a lot of good footage of terrible games too!

il_cornuto fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Nov 29, 2017

Eela6
May 25, 2007
Shredded Hen

A good poster posted:

He changed his image from fake Nazi to carnival barker, and I think that works a lot better.
2017 has been full of people making the wrong choice on the seemingly simple decision between 'hey, do I go Nazi for youtube clicks, or do I act like a human being", and Jim Sterling made the right one. I've never really cared for his content, and I think a lot of his stuff has aged very badly, even by the standards of internet gaming content (tm), but give him credit - he's actually capable of changing his opinion and his content as more facts come up. I think that's a good thing.

StoryTime
Feb 26, 2010

Now listen to me children and I'll tell you of the legend of the Ninja
Jim's a rabblerouser, but I often agree with his message.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I gather he used to be a bit of a shitlord but is now a shitlord in a different, more agreeable sense.

il_cornuto
Oct 10, 2004

Glad to hear he got his poo poo together.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

I usually agree with what he says but his presentation has always been extremely painful and cringey to experience

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Digirat posted:

I usually agree with what he says but his presentation has always been extremely painful and cringey to experience

Terrible Awful Games on Steam Megathread: extremely painful and cringey to experience

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

il_cornuto posted:

Edit: Oh, he dressed up sort of like a fake nazi at the start of the video I guess.

It's more of a half-assed plague doctor look.

If you're hankering for some badgame, though, why not check out the RPG Maker poopchute, Athopiu: the Final Rebirth of Hopeless Incarnate. But hey! At least it has DLC purchases! Added value!

GauRocks posted:

This is not a game. This is ten maps stuck together with 15 functional random encounters, 4 where the developer couldn't be bothered to give them the correct name, and one broken encounter that crashes the engine.

There are 50 items, of which at least two promise fire resistance that does not exist and two don't go in the equipment slot they're supposed to. I couldn't test the special properties of the other gear, because no enemies actually exist that use the other elements.

There is no progression of any kind. Every single chest in the game contains 10000 GP. Several of those chests are inaccessible. One of the chests even blocks the path forward. There are no bosses, no plot, no new areas to unlock.

I would call this a tech demo, but RPG Maker 95 came with a more functional demo 22 years ago. Selling this as a complete game is fraud, plain and simple. And to include $15 of DLC for a non-game shows a complete disrespect for every single user of the Steam platform.

Valve, you're looking to clean up your platform? Sweep this "developer" under the rug. Nobody will even notice.

Then again, you can probably look up any game ArcaneRaise has published and find some hot garbage. Hey, here's their newest release, an asset flip called Blackscreen Simulator.

Actual Ad Copy posted:

You are patient, enemy are zombie. Patient is good, zombie are bad. Patient goal is kill zombie and escape crazy hospital. There are a lot of zombie for patient to kill and many fun for player to play Blackscreen Simulator. Do you like black? Because game is very dark, you can see hard. Good luck!

Something something Steam Direct sarcasm :rolleyes:

Tobermory
Mar 31, 2011

Lately this thread is full of minimum-effort cash grabs and/or kafkaesque fetish pornography. Have a sincere labor of love instead.

Math Combat Challenge!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm-eaYB_HqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8h7vm_353k

Too Shy Guy
Jun 14, 2003


I have destroyed more of your kind than I can count.



Alien Rope Burn posted:

If you're hankering for some badgame, though, why not check out the RPG Maker poopchute, Athopiu: the Final Rebirth of Hopeless Incarnate. But hey! At least it has DLC purchases! Added value!

Hahaha the trailer features a random battle with bees labeled as orcs.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Tobermory posted:

Lately this thread is full of minimum-effort cash grabs and/or kafkaesque fetish pornography. Have a sincere labor of love instead.

Math Combat Challenge!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm-eaYB_HqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8h7vm_353k

Oh man, who needs voice acting when you have microsoft Sam?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Largepotato
Jan 18, 2007

Spurd.

I read that as "The Well of Vore" at first. :gonk:

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Largepotato posted:

I read that as "The Well of Vore" at first. :gonk:

Haha, no, I'm just bringing this screencap to marvel at how that's the first screencap in their storepage.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



Always nice to see family members helping each other out, even in small ways.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

StrixNebulosa posted:

Haha, no, I'm just bringing this screencap to marvel at how that's the first screencap in their storepage.

Oh god, until you said that I didn't realize they put that as a game screenshot for the storepage. I thought it was copy pasted for easy laughter.

Just. Wow.

Sit on my Jace
Sep 9, 2016

il_cornuto posted:

Wait what? I thought Jim Sterling was pretty vocally anti-nazi?

Edit: Oh, he dressed up sort of like a fake nazi at the start of the video I guess. Though given the name, I would have figured he was going for more of a modern inquisition type thing. He did make a good point about it being really weird that Valve can get away with selling some of the more offensive stuff on Steam though, and the quotes from indie developers about how all the crap makes it harder for good indies to be successful highlighted an aspect I hadn't really given much thought. There's a lot of good footage of terrible games too!

It's understandable that people would get the wrong impression the one time out of a hundred that someone using Nazi iconography ironically was actually legitimately doing it for satirical purposes and not as a smokescreen.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Using nazi icons as a joke used to be super common but not anymore we've lost that innocence.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Anil Dasharez0ne posted:

It's understandable that people would get the wrong impression the one time out of a hundred that someone using Nazi iconography ironically was actually legitimately doing it for satirical purposes and not as a smokescreen.

He's been doing this poo poo for longer than the mainstream Nazi resurgence has been happening, so.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Yeah, Jim started out as just some guy talking about his opinions on the Escapist, but when that proved unpopular (I think he displaced Movie Bob or something?), he decided to go hog-wild with his dictator persona, which seemed to work. Then 2017 came, and playing an egotistic dictator suddenly didn't seem funny anymore. The show had also been moving from those roots, with Jim doing skits in costume and the like, so the whole egotistic showman thing seemed the logical way to go.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

The old hat was still better :colbert:

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Violently Car posted:

He's been doing this poo poo for longer than the mainstream Nazi resurgence has been happening, so.

I know this but "it's an Alan Moore reference guys" does not seem like a worthwhile hill to die on (So it's good that he finally gave up!).

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.



~uguu

The MSJ
May 17, 2010


:nws: https://i.imgur.com/YgEs3y0.jpg

The MSJ fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Nov 30, 2017

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA



nnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

resistentialism
Aug 13, 2007

That tag line owns so hard.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

I'm bored, I'm tired, I figured I'd look through the steam queues before bed, see if anything decent was on 'em, and...

There's so much shovelware, unfunny trash, VR games, and porn in there it's becoming a marvel if I find even one semi-interesting game. I know Steam's been full of trash for years, but the floodgates are well and truly open and I'm not sure how to feel about it.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

StrixNebulosa posted:



nnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

the long-awaited sequel to the game where you play inventory tetris on your slave ship?????

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
That's not Cave Story :mad:

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe
I did not know any of this about Steam Direct until reading about it in this thread, but goddamn that makes what I've been seeing recently on Steam make a lot of sense. It won't stop, either, since Valve makes at least $100 per piece of shovelware added to their service. They need to have active screening of submitted games, but they created a financial incentive for themselves to do nothing about the shitshow they created.

It's beautiful, in a way.

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

OutOfPrint posted:

They need to have active screening of submitted games

Why? There is literally no downside to having more games on Steam outside of same vague sense of moral outrage among a small group of people and plenty of great games that never would have gotten on Steam have showed up since they moved from their old "know a guy who works for Valve" model of adding titles so it's a net good regardless.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Guy Mann posted:

Why? There is literally no downside to having more games on Steam outside of same vague sense of moral outrage among a small group of people and plenty of great games that never would have gotten on Steam have showed up since they moved from their old "know a guy who works for Valve" model of adding titles so it's a net good regardless.

"literally no downside" ... Have you seen the appstores lately? Or the asset flippers?

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

OutOfPrint posted:

I did not know any of this about Steam Direct until reading about it in this thread, but goddamn that makes what I've been seeing recently on Steam make a lot of sense. It won't stop, either, since Valve makes at least $100 per piece of shovelware added to their service. They need to have active screening of submitted games, but they created a financial incentive for themselves to do nothing about the shitshow they created.

It's beautiful, in a way.

I'm pretty sure they donate the fee to charity.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Guy Mann posted:

Why? There is literally no downside to having more games on Steam outside of same vague sense of moral outrage among a small group of people and plenty of great games that never would have gotten on Steam have showed up since they moved from their old "know a guy who works for Valve" model of adding titles so it's a net good regardless.

When a marketplace becomes saturated with rubbish that is a waste of money, it becomes harder to find stuff that is worth the money and people stop shopping there and the market crashes.

This has happened to video games before, see Nintendo's fortune largely existing because of "the Nintendo seal of approval"

StoryTime
Feb 26, 2010

Now listen to me children and I'll tell you of the legend of the Ninja

Guy Mann posted:

Why? There is literally no downside to having more games on Steam outside of same vague sense of moral outrage among a small group of people and plenty of great games that never would have gotten on Steam have showed up since they moved from their old "know a guy who works for Valve" model of adding titles so it's a net good regardless.

The downside of having more games on Steam, is that a lot of what's being uploaded barely match the criteria of being a game. It's becoming less and less feasible to use the storefront to discover and buy actual good videogames. I'm looking at the 'New Releases' tab on the store right now, and there's exactly 1 game that isn't obviously trash, and it says "Become a Cat!" in the title.

Greenlight was a shitshow, but so is this new system.

Nipponophile
Apr 8, 2009

FoolyCharged posted:

When a marketplace becomes saturated with rubbish that is a waste of money, it becomes harder to find stuff that is worth the money and people stop shopping there and the market crashes.

If only there were about a billion aggregate review websites who made it their business to make sure these games don't fall through the cracks.

FoolyCharged posted:

This has happened to video games before, see Nintendo's fortune largely existing because of "the Nintendo seal of approval"

The reason garbage games caused the great crash is because retailers started refusing to carry games after being stuck with unsold stock. This is completely irrelevant in the digital marketplace.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

tight aspirations posted:

I'm pretty sure they donate the fee to charity.
That was greenlight. The Steam Direct fee is essentially a deposit on Steam's cut, so they keep it if you sell less than $1000 worth of sales, but you get it back after you pass that threshold.

il_cornuto
Oct 10, 2004

Guy Mann posted:

Why? There is literally no downside to having more games on Steam outside of same vague sense of moral outrage among a small group of people and plenty of great games that never would have gotten on Steam have showed up since they moved from their old "know a guy who works for Valve" model of adding titles so it's a net good regardless.

That Jim Sterling video posted earlier had quotes from a couple of indie developers suggesting it is now much harder for good indie games to be successful, because they get lost in the sea of poo poo games. None of the methods for choosing what to put on Steam have been particularly good, but Steam Direct is the worst yet.

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StoryTime
Feb 26, 2010

Now listen to me children and I'll tell you of the legend of the Ninja
I actually kinda want to Become a Cat, on to the wishlist it goes.

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