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The AI, in fact, was programmed to fall for Illusion.
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Nov 29, 2017 20:40
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Am I reading this right, the games have "smart AI" but not everything uses it? 
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Nov 29, 2017 20:42
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Bongo Bill posted:The AI, in fact, was programmed to fall for Illusion. At least the ability is justified somehow, then
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Nov 29, 2017 20:42
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Avalerion posted:Am I reading this right, the games have "smart AI" but not everything uses it? Yeah. Wild pokemon and basic trainers use a move randomly. Better trainers try to hit weaknesses or at least avoid resistances. Elite trainers/Gym Leaders/E4 will often have actual AI routines where they prioritize set up or use moves that you combo with etc. Also the best AI tends to know how much damage moves do and uses the most damaging ones even if it forgoes being supereffective. Sometimes the plot legendaries also get the Good AI Zore fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Nov 29, 2017 |
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Nov 29, 2017 20:45
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There's a couple of exceptions, like how in wild Double Battles in Unova if the enemy had Wide Guard they would use it EVERY SINGLE TIME WITHOUT EXCEPTION
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Nov 29, 2017 20:46
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Good AI has been a thing since Gen 1. Though back then it was just a binary "If attack=supereffective then USE" thing they added to most trainers to distinguish them against wild pokemon. It didn't understand a lot of things, like damage vs non-damage, which is why Lance's Dragonite will use Agility infinitely against a poison pokemon. Agility is psychic you see
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Nov 29, 2017 20:48
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I don't think the game needs to fall for Illusion 100% of the time for it to be worth it, plenty of abilities and attacks have no practical application in the campaign. What the heck is Magnet Pull going to be doing for you in PvE? What about Aura Break? Minus???
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Nov 29, 2017 20:56
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Countblanc posted:I don't think the game needs to fall for Illusion 100% of the time for it to be worth it, plenty of abilities and attacks have no practical application in the campaign. What the heck is Magnet Pull going to be doing for you in PvE? What about Aura Break? Minus??? Illusion is even worse in PvP though
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Nov 29, 2017 20:57
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Countblanc posted:I don't think the game needs to fall for Illusion 100% of the time for it to be worth it, plenty of abilities and attacks have no practical application in the campaign. What the heck is Magnet Pull going to be doing for you in PvE? What about Aura Break? Minus??? Actually I've had the a few fights in the game for me make a few switches that surprised me a lot. Hau in general did it a few times.
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Nov 29, 2017 20:58
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TheKingofSprings posted:Illusion is even worse in PvP though 
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Nov 29, 2017 21:01
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Zore posted:Good AI has been a thing since Gen 1. Though back then it was just a binary "If attack=supereffective then USE" thing they added to most trainers to distinguish them against wild pokemon. This is the basis of that Lorelei Softlock which was pretty amazing to hear about in R/B. Basically once you entered the E4 and save, there's no way out besides fainting or winning. If you entered Lorelei with only a Primeape that knows Rage and nothing else, Lorelei's Dewgong will use Rest every turn, and due to how AI works opponents never run out of PP in gen 1. Rage makes you lose control and attack until you faint in gen 1, and doesn't actually consume PP while doing so, which means that you can never actually KO Dewgong and it will always Rest forever. The caveat is that Rage doesn't trigger the control loss unless it hits, which means in theory you can get out by missing on the 100% = 99.6% accuracy glitch 20/32 times in a row. Good luck!
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Nov 29, 2017 21:21
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Ultima66 posted:This is the basis of that Lorelei Softlock which was pretty amazing to hear about in R/B. There's no reason it has to be in a row. Missing is missing either way.
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Nov 29, 2017 21:26
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YggiDee posted:Alolan Muk is a solid choice, he's slow as dirt but fabulously patterned. He was probably the most reliable fucker on my Moon team. I've always liked Muk so Gay Pride Muk was good and strong and my friend and being Dark-typing was super worth it. Araquanid in the normal SuMo was hella strong, and this time I have Golisopod and holy gently caress this thing is a goddamn monster. Also, I feel kind of weird having Gyarados, Pupitar, and Shelgon on my team considering they're all first, second, and third gen pokemon, but goddamn if they aren't effective and I've never used one on a LEVELING team (Not used Gyarados on a leveling team since loving FireRed, honestly), so I'm happy with my team. And Espeon who is my preferred in-game Eeveelution cuz Psychic is so hard to find.
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Nov 29, 2017 21:42
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Classtoise posted:I've always liked Muk so Gay Pride Muk was good and strong and my friend and being Dark-typing was super worth it. That, and I need a second poipole for my livingdex.
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Nov 29, 2017 21:55
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Mizuti posted:Yeah, there are not many Pokémon in RSE/FRLG exclusive Safari Balls in circulation. I had a few imported by chance, but I'm not going to bother chasing the others. What's kind of fun is that you can get Alola Exeggutor, and more interestingly Alola Sandshrew, in the Safari Ball. Not that it really matches the former, but you could probably excuse it for Alola Diglett. Zore posted:Its not like there aren't a ton of other renamed abilities. Vital Spirit/Insomnia, Cloud Nine/Airlock, Mold Breaker/Terravolt/Turboblaze, Huge Power/Pure Power, Rough Skin/Iron Barbs and Filter/Solid Rock. Actually Barbs does more damage, at 1/8th v Skin's 1/16th 
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Nov 29, 2017 22:32
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The Golden Gael posted:Actually Barbs does more damage, at 1/8th v Skin's 1/16th They both do 1/8 except in gen 3, when Iron Barbs did not exist.
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Nov 29, 2017 22:52
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Strange Quark posted:There's no reason it has to be in a row. Missing is missing either way. Once Rage starts in Gen 1 it will never miss because it bypasses the accuracy check. It has to be in a row. E: This is of course given the starting condition that Primeape knows no other moves besides Rage. If Primeape has Karate Chop and Rage then of course alternating Rage misses with Karate Chops would not be "missing in a row" but also this condition could break the soft lock if you have a second move that can actually KO the Dewgong.
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Nov 29, 2017 23:18
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Golisopod is super good and even a Wimpod with aqua jet is useful!
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Nov 30, 2017 00:36
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the Necrozma fight is brutal. after 5 OHKOs in a row I was like "hmm maybe you're supposed to lose this one?" but then my Primarina stayed alive cause he loves me so much and I got a move off, so I decided to just spam revives cause gently caress it I'm not letting anyone beat me
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Nov 30, 2017 00:43
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Wow Ultra Ride is infuriating. Even with circle pad.
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Nov 30, 2017 02:17
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indigi posted:the Necrozma fight is brutal. after 5 OHKOs in a row I was like "hmm maybe you're supposed to lose this one?" but then my Primarina stayed alive cause he loves me so much and I got a move off, so I decided to just spam revives cause gently caress it I'm not letting anyone beat me I used tyranitar and roto-boosted the gently caress out of it, the true american way
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Nov 30, 2017 02:29
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Abundant Atrophy posted:Wow Ultra Ride is infuriating. Even with circle pad. I wish the movement control was consistent. I keep trying to tip it left or right when it wants me to rotate the device for L/R and only tip it for up and down.
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Nov 30, 2017 02:32
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ROFL Octopus posted:I used tyranitar and roto-boosted the gently caress out of it, the true american way Now I'm tempted to bring my Krookodile and kill necrozma with a roto-boosted Power Trip.
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Nov 30, 2017 02:39
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Dienes posted:I wish the movement control was consistent. I keep trying to tip it left or right when it wants me to rotate the device for L/R and only tip it for up and down. Go to the Game Freak office and tell them you'd prefer to use the circle pad instead of motion controls.
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Nov 30, 2017 03:17
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So if your super double-rainbow wormhole has a legendary in it, does it at least have a higher chance of being a shiny?Gruckles posted:Go to the Game Freak office and tell them you'd prefer to use the circle pad instead of motion controls. No one should have to suffer motion controls in a Pokemon game.
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Nov 30, 2017 03:24
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rainbow wormholes are always shiny, I think.
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Nov 30, 2017 03:44
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So I'm up to Nanu. His Persian murdered half my team. While my team was doing 25% damage brick breaks to him. Does Alolan Golem have some kind of hidden penalty to his stats because I swear every time I expect him to hit something hard he hits it about half as hard as I hoped. I mean seriously. It's a PERSIAN ffs.
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Nov 30, 2017 03:51
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ChrisBTY posted:So I'm up to Nanu. Golem has always been kind of weak and Persian has the ability that halves all damage from physical attacks, so it's actually a pretty drat good pokemon now.
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Nov 30, 2017 03:53
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TFRazorsaw posted:rainbow wormholes are always shiny, I think. The highest level wormholes are guaranteed to either be a legendary or a shiny. If it's a legendary it just has regular shiny chances that you can soft-reset for if you're so inclined.
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Nov 30, 2017 03:57
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Ultima66 posted:Golem has always been kind of weak and Persian has the ability that halves all damage from physical attacks, so it's actually a pretty drat good pokemon now. I did not realize Persian has Fur Coat. That makes me feel a little better. I am quickly learning that a slow Rock/Electric type is actually really stupid.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:02
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Would someone be willing to trade their Totem Marowak for my Totem Salazzle when I get it? I'm only at 41 stickers so it wouldn't be soon but I thought I'd see if their was someone interested in advanced.
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Nov 30, 2017 04:20
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ChrisBTY posted:I did not realize Persian has Fur Coat. That makes me feel a little better. A choice banded galvanize explosion in electric terrain is quite possibly the most heroic move in the game tho
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Nov 30, 2017 04:20
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OK so I caught this Dewpider thing, would it be a bad idea to use it instead of Slowpoke? I think it looks hilarious and being Bug/Water means I can abandon Butterfree for something else as well (Cottonee maybe?). Torracat, Magnemite, and Grimer are pretty much the only 3 Im set on keeping right now so I have 3 spots to play with as I see new stuff. The 4th is currently Hawlucha which I have to love because its a luchador bird but good lord does it ever get wrecked by pretty much anything that can survive its first hit.
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Nov 30, 2017 06:26
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Furnaceface posted:OK so I caught this Dewpider thing, would it be a bad idea to use it instead of Slowpoke? I think it looks hilarious and being Bug/Water means I can abandon Butterfree for something else as well (Cottonee maybe?). Because this is what it's ability actually does, in addition to what the description says. 
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Nov 30, 2017 06:34
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dewpider owns, as does its evo
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Nov 30, 2017 06:36
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Blaziken386 posted:Dewpider is a really good monster who will eat the faces of all who mess with you It also learns Liquidate, which is a 100% accurate razor shell that deals more damage. In other questions, how hard would it be to actually sketch sacred sword onto a Smeargle in USUM? Kurieg fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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Nov 30, 2017 06:43
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Zoran posted:They both do 1/8 except in gen 3, when Iron Barbs did not exist. What had Iron Barbs in gen 4?
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Nov 30, 2017 07:09
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hangedman1984 posted:Why did they change the name of wimp out to emergency exit when wimpod evolves to golisopod? The ability still does the exact same thing right? Golisopod is hard and spiky and strong on the outside, but he's a scared little boy on the inside just like the trainer who uses it
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Nov 30, 2017 07:13
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i am not spiky
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Dabir posted:What had Iron Barbs in gen 4? Nothing, but Rough Skin was changed to 1/8 then.
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