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Sir Lemming posted:Fun fact: the same person wrote both songs. (The line "I would do anything for love, but I won't do that" even appears in a different song on the same album as "Total Eclipse Of The Heart".)  Air Supply, Meat Loaf, Bonnie Tyler, Manilow, and Celine Dion. That guy's music was the soundtrack for so many big haired sexual escapades.
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Quote-Unquote posted:Bat Out of Hell III also had songs written for a musical version of the movie Cry-Baby that ended up unused. Sure, I used to have the Meat Loaf episode of VH1 Storytellers on dvd and he has a bit where he explains how most of the songs Steinman has written were done with this Peter Pan musical in mind, because Steinman (who as I recall he described as "one weird dude") is completely obsessed with Peter Pan. Another fun fact: Steinman was at one point asked by Andrew Lloyd Webber to write the libretto and help with the score of The Phantom of the Opera because his original vision was that it would be this really over-the-top rock opera. Unfortunately, Steinman was busy producing Def Leppard albums at the time and by the time he was available, Lloyd Webber had decided Phantom would be less rock-focused and more classical.
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Dee Snyder has a live Xmas show. I was hoping to catch it this year.
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Krispy Wafer posted:
If it's a hit from the late 70s to the mid 90s and is really over-the-top operatic rock for people with big hair, Steinman was probably involved. If it has a simple and catchy guitar hook and a chorus that goes "Woaaaaaaaaah!" a lot for people with big hair, Desmond Child was probably involved. Otherwise, it was probably Diane Warren.
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Quote-Unquote posted:Otherwise, it was probably Diane Warren. Either her or Michael Bolton.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Another fun fact: Steinman was at one point asked by Andrew Lloyd Webber to write the libretto and help with the score of The Phantom of the Opera because his original vision was that it would be this really over-the-top rock opera. Unfortunately, Steinman was busy producing Def Leppard albums at the time and by the time he was available, Lloyd Webber had decided Phantom would be less rock-focused and more classical. (also username makes post)
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If you're in the mood for a rock opera I don't think the subject matter is all that important. Hundred Years War rock opera. Why the gently caress not?
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I absolutely would have gone to see that versoin of Phantom. Then watch Phantom of the Paradise. It's loving amazing. My dad showed it to my brother and I to show us something he was into when he was our age.
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This kinda fits the theme of the thread... https://youtu.be/8XlhRL3D3Sw
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Volcott posted:If you're in the mood for a rock opera I don't think the subject matter is all that important. Christopher Lee made a Charlemagne one and it rules
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Finding out that the theme song for M*A*S*H* had lyrics, and then listening to those lyrics...
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Eclipse12 posted:Finding out that the theme song for M*A*S*H* had lyrics, and then listening to those lyrics... Good news, that smilie didn't feel anything.
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I think the first couple of episodes played lyrics. Hawkeye's behavior towards women DID NOT age well. More people should have been Frank Burns.
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Eclipse12 posted:Finding out that the theme song for M*A*S*H* had lyrics, and then listening to those lyrics... A 14-year old wrote the lyrics in five minutes. Apparently no one was even slightly concerned about him, lol.
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Nov 30, 2017 22:36
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As I understand it, that song's lyrics were deliberately written to be as maudlin as humanly possible. Like it's supposed to sound ridiculous.
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Nov 30, 2017 22:47
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YeahTubaMike posted:A 14-year old wrote the lyrics in five minutes. Apparently no one was even slightly concerned about him, lol. That was Robert Altman's son. Altman made $70,000 to direct MASH and his son made over a million on the theme song. And only the instrumental was used in the show.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I absolutely would have gone to see that versoin of Phantom. As far as I'm aware, the sole legacy of that version was this music video for the title song which predated the West End production by a year or two. Sarah Brightman is in it, but unfortunately, Lloyd Webber was chums with Steve Harley of Cockney Rebel at the time and cast him as the Phantom, which doesn't quite work, as you'll hear if you watch the video. Michael Crawford he is not. If you were going to make a full-on rock opera version of Phantom of the Opera, you'd need to have either Freddie Mercury or Roger Daltrey playing the Phantom.
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Mister Kingdom posted:That was Robert Altman's son. Altman made $70,000 to direct MASH and his son made over a million on the theme song. And only the instrumental was used in the show. And then The Manic Street Preachers covered it as a charity single to benefit The Spastics Society.
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Nov 30, 2017 23:43
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Krispy Wafer posted:I think the first couple of episodes played lyrics. 
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It was the 1950's. Every one of those women would have been shunned as a harlot the moment she got back from the war. Hawkeye ruined so many lives.
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Hawkeye would get essentially neutered as the show went on.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I think the first couple of episodes played lyrics. I love the episode where he doesn't hit on the short and curvy nurse, and is completely oblivious to her overtures toward him. She calls him on being a shallow rear end in a top hat, he feels bad and decides he wants to pity bang her--but when he goes to her tent she's already got a hot piece of man flesh waiting inside for her, hahaha.
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artsy fartsy posted:I love the episode where he doesn't hit on the short and curvy nurse, and is completely oblivious to her overtures toward him. She calls him on being a shallow rear end in a top hat, he feels bad and decides he wants to pity bang her--but when he goes to her tent she's already got a hot piece of man flesh waiting inside for her, hahaha. She was a great character overall.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I think the first couple of episodes played lyrics. I thought it was implied that EVERYONE was basically flirting or hooking up all the time as an escape. And wasn't Frank cheating on his spouse? Who he married for money? Then lying to Margaret about leaving his wife for her? Whatever, Winchester was awesome. He was a pompous rear end, but he stood up for the little guy.
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Canemacar posted:Whatever, Winchester was awesome. He was a pompous rear end, but he stood up for the little guy. He did help the guy with a stutter because his sister had one as well. And then there was that soldier who was an aspiring pianist and lost the use of one arm, so Winchester found him some music for one hand.
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Mister Kingdom posted:That was Robert Altman's son. Altman made $70,000 to direct MASH and his son made over a million on the theme song. And only the instrumental was used in the show. Yeah, watch the movie. The context of the lyrics is that the gang is playing a "prank" on the suicidal dentist of the unit, nicknamed "Painless" as a sort of tough love thing to get him out of his funk.
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Volcott posted:If you're in the mood for a rock opera I don't think the subject matter is all that important. Rick Wakeman staged his album The Myths and the Legends of King Arthur as an ice show.
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I love Robert Altman and the tv show MASH but the MASH movie is garbage, and very misogynistic. 3 Women is his money movie.
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Klinger's entire character is offensive too It's shocking that such a problematic show is still in syndication
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Canemacar posted:I thought it was implied that EVERYONE was basically flirting or hooking up all the time as an escape. The guy that played Frank was SO good in finding the razor thin line between pitiful and detestable.
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BrigadierSensible posted:The guy that played Frank was SO good in finding the razor thin line between pitiful and detestable. Larry Linville. Subject of the weirdest grafitti I've ever seen. Walked into a bathroom stall and somebody had written on the inside door: Larry Linville is DAT nigga I guess it's possible they were talking about somebody else, but it seems funnier this way. El Gallinero Gros has a new favorite as of 07:13 on Dec 1, 2017 |
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Ein cooler Typ posted:Klinger's entire character is offensive too Know what else is offensive? The draft. By 1950s standards, he was acting crazy as gently caress. At no point did he express gender dysphoria. I may be missing 
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Beachcomber posted:Know what else is offensive? The draft. you're supposed to ignore that he's faking to be sent home, then be outraged that he's a bad trans character
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I like the idea of Altman deliberately consulting his 14 year old song to get the most teenage-poetry lyrics he could. And pretty sure Joan of Arc would fit perfectly in a rock opera. Though I misread that and thought Thirty Years War rock opera, which you could probably stick The Trooper in pretty seamlessly.
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Rock operas, as a genre, age badly.
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I was gonna say Tommy but yeah...
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BioEnchanted posted:Then watch Phantom of the Paradise. It's loving amazing. My dad showed it to my brother and I to show us something he was into when he was our age. Seriously, watch Phantom of the Paradise. My city (Winnipeg) single-handily kept it from being quickly forgotten and made the album go Gold in sales despite it being a movie that basically died opening weekend everywhere else.
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It's insane to me, given MASH's popularity, that none of the streaming services have done a Catch-22 series.
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's insane to me, given MASH's popularity, that none of the streaming services have done a Catch-22 series. Because it'd make no sense.
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Not a TV episode that didn't age well, but this week's South Park was about Kyle realizing the comedy of his heroes Terrance and Philip didn't age well.
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